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[TheQuin]

I never really put attention to trustpilot as most of the times people will only post when they have a negative experience. Something is also fishy when you just read positive reviews also.~

Yeah, it's that. Quite often when I ban cheats for multi-accounting they threaten me with leaving bad reviews as some sort of attempted blackmail.

~That guy is talking about buying 2500 tokens (I suppose FUN tokens for the premium membership) and than claims to have lost over 2000$ while buying 2500 tokens would only cost 18-19$ lol. To assure all the new members on here also, this is one of the most legit sites out there  and I, together with a lot of players, can only recommend it.

They probably bought 2500 in each of 100 accounts and then ran a bot to play free rolls 24/7.

[iv4n]

~That guy is talking about buying 2500 tokens (I suppose FUN tokens for the premium membership) and than claims to have lost over 2000$ while buying 2500 tokens would only cost 18-19$ lol. To assure all the new members on here also, this is one of the most legit sites out there  and I, together with a lot of players, can only recommend it.

They probably bought 2500 in each of 100 accounts and then ran a bot to play free rolls 24/7.

You are probably right. For a few dollars, people are ready to create +100 accounts literally, and they will farm as long as they can. And some of them are not imaginative when creating all those email/casino/wallet accounts, they use almost identical usernames, wallet/IP addresses... Neverending troubles with abusers.

[pawanjain]

Pretty decent odds this time for BTC price betting. I guess you guys would be betting this time since the price is little more predictable this time.
I personally think it will be in the range of $22-5k to $27.5k so I have placed my bets in both the ranges to cover the price range.

[uneng]

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Most of the negative ratings are related to the multiply BTC game. The users are complaining that the hi-lo game is unfair. Seems like people are leaving negative feedback on Trustpilot after losing their account balance in the hi-lo game. Some people have mentioned that they have lost most of their bets and getting longer losing streak. Maybe they are ignoring the 5% house edge of the multiply BTC game of Freebitco.

Some people also complained that their account was blocked without any reason. But it only happens if anyone creates multiple accounts or use bots to claim the faucet.

Probably those people saw videos on youtube from referrals hunters promising safe income by playing the multiplier game on automatic mode. Those videos have always been very popular, with many falling for them. Actually, they should blame the scammers who promise that is a money making method instead of blaming the platform. I can really feel on those comments the anger for losing money they didn't expect to lose, due to believing it was a "safe bet".

[FanEagle]

I never really put attention to trustpilot as most of the times people will only post when they have a negative experience. Something is also fishy when you just read positive reviews also. Some complaints don't make sense also like the first ones. That guy is talking about buying 2500 tokens (I suppose FUN tokens for the premium membership) and than claims to have lost over 2000$ while buying 2500 tokens would only cost 18-19$ lol. To assure all the new members on here also, this is one of the most legit sites out there  and I, together with a lot of players, can only recommend it.

Well, we never can just conclude and push things away just like that, we all know that not everyone is good with English, we know that some can only manage to express themselves in the best way they understand and can, but not in the best way that would be generally understood.
Maybe, the guy didn't mean he lost $2000 buying Fun token, maybe he meant he lost that money playing on freebitco after upgrading to a premium member, the mentality he probably have is this, since he's a premium member or user rather, he shouldn't have lost that much  .
Some probably do not understand that, becoming a premium member is not an automatic immunity to gambling loses.

I have seen plenty of people like that, I have seen people who ended up basically saying "how can I lose 10+ times in a row on 50%!!!! it's rigged!!" and so forth. Statistics and possibilities are not the strong suit of someone who doesn't know much about math and lost a lot of money.

When you combine those two, you get yourself someone who doesn't understand how any of this works, and complains all around the online world about the most legit websites. The important thing is, they are legit and have been legit for a decade now and this won't change anytime soon, maybe people may come out once in a while and complain, but the general consensus will always be freebitco.in being good.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

~That guy is talking about buying 2500 tokens (I suppose FUN tokens for the premium membership) and than claims to have lost over 2000$ while buying 2500 tokens would only cost 18-19$ lol. To assure all the new members on here also, this is one of the most legit sites out there  and I, together with a lot of players, can only recommend it.

They probably bought 2500 in each of 100 accounts and then ran a bot to play free rolls 24/7.

You are probably right. For a few dollars, people are ready to create +100 accounts literally, and they will farm as long as they can. And some of them are not imaginative when creating all those email/casino/wallet accounts, they use almost identical usernames, wallet/IP addresses... Neverending troubles with abusers.

I think some of them make use of bots, but what I don't understand is how they manage to create and set those bots up, we really can not underestimate people though, there are people out there that are ready to go through any type of stress just to try to earn some free dollars, as long as they don't have to spend a dime for it, other than their time and effort, but sometimes, I can't help but imagine that, what If they channel that skill, or talent and energy into doing something else that could be more productive for them??.

[babygun]

Pretty decent odds this time for BTC price betting. I guess you guys would be betting this time since the price is little more predictable this time.
I personally think it will be in the range of $22-5k to $27.5k so I have placed my bets in both the ranges to cover the price range.

Thanks for mentioning it here, just checked it and the odd for the range 22,501 to 25,000$ has already dropped to 1.67 and I think it will drop a little bit more. Than it will be difficult to make profit when you would bet on both ranges and just betting on one range is a bit risky for me giving the volatility.

[o48o]

Apparently the administrators of Freebitco.in have gotten very greedy lately: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/freebitco.in?stars=1

That's a rough patch considering the track record and credibility of this platform.

I put trust trustpilot as much value as newbie accounts in bitcointalk. Both of them van be weaponized with money, either for praising the product or FUDding the competition.

Also i didn't even find anything that would make Freebitcoin admins "greedy". And being "greedy" is just weirdest fud. Like not every company out there wouldn't want to make more profit.

[Strongkored]

Pretty decent odds this time for BTC price betting. I guess you guys would be betting this time since the price is little more predictable this time.
I personally think it will be in the range of $22-5k to $27.5k so I have placed my bets in both the ranges to cover the price range.

Thanks for mentioning it here, just checked it and the odd for the range 22,501 to 25,000$ has already dropped to 1.67 and I think it will drop a little bit more. Than it will be difficult to make profit when you would bet on both ranges and just betting on one range is a bit risky for me giving the volatility.

There are still 18 hours left before the bet closes and during this period it is possible that those who have bet in a different range will immediately place bets in this range so that the odds will decrease even more and may even drop to 1.30 so that when the BTC price ends in that range the profit is still not a lot, what's interesting is the bet on FUN Token because now the price has touched $0.00734 maybe it will pass $0.007501 because if possible the profit will be good enough because the odds in that price range now are @2.75.

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[swogerino]

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This is the best promotion and I always take part in it,I am gambling not much now about 0.0006 Bitcoin but that in wagered amount is at least 13-15 times higher so tons of RP to be made here during this window promo while also grabbing additional goodies like weekly lottery tickets and if you play long enough and for people who play with more than 0.0006 Bitcoin it can be the best time to jump in that multiply btc lo hi game.

So with just 0.0006 gambled you can make like at least 10.000 RP in rewards because as I said that amount translates to at least x13-15 in wagered amount and this is where rewards are based in wagered amount.

[pawanjain]

Pretty decent odds this time for BTC price betting. I guess you guys would be betting this time since the price is little more predictable this time.
I personally think it will be in the range of $22-5k to $27.5k so I have placed my bets in both the ranges to cover the price range.

Thanks for mentioning it here, just checked it and the odd for the range 22,501 to 25,000$ has already dropped to 1.67 and I think it will drop a little bit more. Than it will be difficult to make profit when you would bet on both ranges and just betting on one range is a bit risky for me giving the volatility.

There are still 18 hours left before the bet closes and during this period it is possible that those who have bet in a different range will immediately place bets in this range so that the odds will decrease even more and may even drop to 1.30 so that when the BTC price ends in that range the profit is still not a lot, what's interesting is the bet on FUN Token because now the price has touched $0.00734 maybe it will pass $0.007501 because if possible the profit will be good enough because the odds in that price range now are @2.75.

While the odds have decreased for the range of $22.5k - $25k at the same time the odds increased for the range of $25k - $27.5k.
Just a little planning of how to distribute the bet would get us in a better position to place the bets.

[FatFork]

I put trust trustpilot as much value as newbie accounts in bitcointalk. Both of them van be weaponized with money, either for praising the product or FUDding the competition.

Also i didn't even find anything that would make Freebitcoin admins "greedy". And being "greedy" is just weirdest fud. Like not every company out there wouldn't want to make more profit.

Yeah. Just out of curiosity, I actually looked at some of those one-star reviews on TP, and I agree with you - I didn't find anything that could be considered a legitimate accusation. Not even close. The first complaint is that the user is unable to unsubscribe from the FreeBitcoin mailing list, which is not true as every email they send provides clear information on how to opt out. Another complaint is that FreeBitcoin forces users to gamble, which is again absurd, while another user believes that it's a waste of time, and so on. I think the problem here is that the people who leave these bad reviews aren't really regular users, but rather peeps who tried to cheat FreeBitcoin and got caught, or folks who just expect too much from the site.

As for the newbie spreading these baseless accusations, does this look like a post from someone who is an honest user?

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[Warkop]

Damn. What a round of lottery, 2 winners there pocketing with such small amounts. In that list, only 2 people had more tickets than me too, so I'm feeling pretty disappointed with myself lol.

I had almost 80k tickets, hehe you can blame the 4xRP rewards for that which came 2 in a row, but the RP itself was nice I guess, along with a few more spare GTs!

From this news I know that the FreeBitco.in site really doesn't see how many Lottery Tickets or RP Tickets we have because it's not enough to make it possible to get a win, in fact having not so many tickets can actually win the Weekly Lottery, even though it comes back with that person's luck and the ticket that you get really brings luck to that person, to be honest having 80k tickets is very painful for us. We see someone who only has dozens of tickets can win this Lottrey, but don't give up friends, there are still many opportunities in the future, I also experienced things like you..

We have been saying this all time along that it is completely random and the amount of tickets you have does not mean anything,someone with 1.5 million tickets may not win anything and someone with 3 tickets can win the first prize in the weekly lottery.The only problem which I think deceives many people is the amount of your chances shown in percentage at Freebitco.in which give to all of us false hopes as it may say to someone who has 20 million tickets that his chances to win the lottery are 14% which as I say may instill in the person empty hopes to win the lottery,in the end it is all random.

If it's like that, it's the same as giving false hope to all those holding tickets, no matter how much they have, has it ever occurred to do the drawing directly, I mean broadcast live so that all can witness and of course there will be a lot of hope that the tickets they get have, have the opportunity to get their ticket out as a lottery winner, it will certainly appear transparent that the draw is indeed random but that will make everyone sure that this draw at Freebitco is true and honest, so that there are no skewed thoughts towards the draw at Freebitcoin.

[pawel7777]

From this news I know that the FreeBitco.in site really doesn't see how many Lottery Tickets or RP Tickets we have because it's not enough to make it possible to get a win, in fact having not so many tickets can actually win the Weekly Lottery, even though it comes back with that person's luck and the ticket that you get really brings luck to that person, to be honest having 80k tickets is very painful for us. We see someone who only has dozens of tickets can win this Lottrey, but don't give up friends, there are still many opportunities in the future, I also experienced things like you..

It's almost fascinating how some people are incapable of understanding the probability of winning.

Let's make it simple:

You have one guy with 100,000 tickets and a million other guys with 10 tickets each.
For the sake of easier calculation, let's assume there's one prize to win.
Despite having 10,000 times more tickets than any other guy, the guy with 100k tickets has less than a 1% chance of winning.

So there's 99% chance that a winner will be someone with only 10 tickets. And then a bunch of geniuses on the forum is shocked how is that even possible 🤦

[decodx]

has it ever occurred to do the drawing directly, I mean broadcast live so that all can witness and of course there will be a lot of hope that the tickets they get have, have the opportunity to get their ticket out as a lottery winner, it will certainly appear transparent that the draw is indeed random but that will make everyone sure that this draw at Freebitco is true and honest, so that there are no skewed thoughts towards the draw at Freebitcoin.

Broadcasting the drawing can create excitement and anticipation for participants. Knowing that their ticket could potentially win can be a thrilling experience, and watching the drawing live can add to the suspense. However, I don't think that this will contribute significantly to transparency, since the FreeBitco.in lottery is already provably fair and it has multiple safeguards in place to ensure that winners are picked randomly and fairly.

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So there's 99% chance that a winner will be someone with only 10 tickets. And then a bunch of geniuses on the forum is shocked how is that even possible 🤦

Yes, it's fascinating how some people suck in math. It feels like you're explaining the concept of fractions to a toddler. 

[slaman29]

If it's like that, it's the same as giving false hope to all those holding tickets, no matter how much they have, has it ever occurred to do the drawing directly, I mean broadcast live so that all can witness and of course there will be a lot of hope that the tickets they get have, have the opportunity to get their ticket out as a lottery winner, it will certainly appear transparent that the draw is indeed random but that will make everyone sure that this draw at Freebitco is true and honest, so that there are no skewed thoughts towards the draw at Freebitcoin.

Yeah maybe you should take the time to understand things first before you comment. Broadcasting live with witnesses can be much less fairer than current systems which are provably fair.

Do you even participate at this site and lottery or are you just making comments for the sake of it?

Transparency is so misunderstood these days.

[SirLancelot]

Apparently the administrators of Freebitco.in have gotten very greedy lately: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/freebitco.in?stars=1

That's a rough patch considering the track record and credibility of this platform.

I put trust trustpilot as much value as newbie accounts in bitcointalk. Both of them van be weaponized with money, either for praising the product or FUDding the competition.

Also i didn't even find anything that would make Freebitcoin admins "greedy". And being "greedy" is just weirdest fud. Like not every company out there wouldn't want to make more profit.

Trustpilot is also a place that takes money to delete bad comments if you pay them. It has been leaked before and there were mails from the staff members that said if you paid them X amount (changes based on how many bad comments there are) then they can delete some of it, and that made the overall point you got there better.

I am sure you can abuse it to promote your business, but their entire business model is based on blackmailing companies into saying "take my money and delete bad comments", that's how they are managed. Thankfully freebitco.in doesn't need any of that, they are already one of the most visited crypto websites, so they don't need trustpilot to say anything about them.

[STT]

Its a general rule that people are far more motivated to give negative feedback then positive, when you are completely happy with the site you merely use it and are happy to pay the margins or fees required.  Leaving a review is probably not done unless they specifically require it which some apps do pester about.   That doesnt mean all complaints are false, some are valid in their troubles but theres a negative bias to review sites quite easily.

Sorting groups in a population for probability considered outcomes would not be basic maths or part of the high school exam but its fairly basic stats done as part of higher maths I think.   Its a subject well worth studying applicable in almost industry, definitely gambling its relevant even things like engineering will have probability calcs along with modes of failure and all sorts of useful feedback.


BTC 25k probably caps us for this month, target to break that trend would confirming above 23.8k (or safer still yesterdays high)  but its already run down with lower highs quite consistently enough to presume we must reassess support.

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