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Question: Are you willing to participate in group legal action to recover funds ?
Yes please, we have been scammed.
No,no, Steve is legit and will do the right thing.
Am not sure, I do not want to loose more money.
This was a scam, but I got my escrow thanks.

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January 01, 2014, 03:14:37 PM
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I only just saw this thread now.

I made a, (smallish), purchase as part of batch II

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I have tried many times to contact T13hydra via this forum, but he has never replied to any of the messages I sent him, (although he has been back many, many times since).
I also tried to contact him via his website but not a single word from him so far.

I trusted him, and I believed him when he said his plans had been sunk by Avalon, I even said I was prepared to wait a little to see how else we could scavenge what had become a bad situation.

But now, I just want my refund, I feel I was ripped off, and my trust/patience was abused, it is just not fair really.

Let me know how I can help, or if there is anything I can do to get my coins back.

Thanks

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January 02, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
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Seems not much progress is made. I've not received any replies to be added to the mailing list that Steve is apparently using to communicate.

While all our patience is wearing thin, unfortunately we will have to wait for the gears to get going after holiday season before we decide on definitive action to take.

Steve I know that you're reading this, please add me to your mailing list, check your messages from me.




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January 06, 2014, 02:53:36 PM
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I want to take action, but i lack the physical proximity or hacking ability to get in touch with him or break his PC

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January 07, 2014, 11:38:48 AM
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Anyone has a cell number on Steve?
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January 07, 2014, 12:50:51 PM
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Anyone has a cell number on Steve?

add him as a friend on FB and ask there Grin https://www.facebook.com/t13hydra

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Address: Margaritarilor Nr 17
City: Cluj Napoca
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Email: t13hydra@gmail.com

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January 07, 2014, 02:08:06 PM
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Not sure of his phone. To be honest not even sure of his real name.

Just saw the new post...




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P.S. btw, check his wife's last photo album "Munchen" - looks like those BTC's are in good hands Grin
yeah, he took our money, bought miners, did not pay us anything and he is happy because he is thinking: "I live in fucking Hungury - nobody can reach me"..

From what I see he did make a fraud. There is a lot of money in stake.
Can we do something about this?


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P.S. btw, check his wife's last photo album "Munchen" - looks like those BTC's are in good hands Grin
yeah, he took our money, bought miners, did not pay us anything and he is happy because he is thinking: "I live in fucking Hungury - nobody can reach me"..

From what I see he did make a fraud. There is a lot of money in stake.
Can we do something about this?




Assuming the personal information is correct the simplest thing is to issue a European Payment Order. If we want to hire a lawyer I suggest we discuss that and do it as a group.




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January 07, 2014, 07:32:16 PM
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P.S. btw, check his wife's last photo album "Munchen" - looks like those BTC's are in good hands Grin
yeah, he took our money, bought miners, did not pay us anything and he is happy because he is thinking: "I live in fucking Hungury - nobody can reach me"..

From what I see he did make a fraud. There is a lot of money in stake.
Can we do something about this?




Assuming the personal information is correct the simplest thing is to issue a European Payment Order. If we want to hire a lawyer I suggest we discuss that and do it as a group.

I am 'stuck' in canada, but am in full support of this

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January 08, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
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Oh my god^^ He has a son and he is a fraud. That kid is unlucky i guess, because his father scammed so many people... Shame on you Steve.

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Oh my god^^ He has a son and he is a fraud. That kid is unlucky i guess, because his father scammed so many people... Shame on you Steve.

I honestly don't believe Steve went in to scam people. But it's pretty clear that he's in a hole that have left people holding the bag.

SouthernGent, can you put a poll on the thread, so we can get an idea of how many of us are willing to persue legal recourse?




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January 08, 2014, 06:05:40 PM
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Steve has been mning with 2 Jupiters (~1.3 TH/s total) at least since december, so he has probably earned back invested money (counted in $) and now he is making profit... without paying us a penny... :/
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So who of you are still waiting on batch1 refunds? I sure am.
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January 09, 2014, 02:28:41 PM
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P.S. btw, check his wife's last photo album "Munchen" - looks like those BTC's are in good hands Grin
yeah, he took our money, bought miners, did not pay us anything and he is happy because he is thinking: "I live in fucking Hungury - nobody can reach me"..

From what I see he did make a fraud. There is a lot of money in stake.
Can we do something about this?

Assuming the personal information is correct the simplest thing is to issue a European Payment Order. If we want to hire a lawyer I suggest we discuss that and do it as a group.

I am in.
Lets sue him.
I dont think that the cost will be too high for us. We can split expenses. Can you find out how much it would be approximately?
As salvi said, hes just robbing us. Plain and simple.
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January 09, 2014, 05:17:35 PM
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P.S. btw, check his wife's last photo album "Munchen" - looks like those BTC's are in good hands Grin
yeah, he took our money, bought miners, did not pay us anything and he is happy because he is thinking: "I live in fucking Hungury - nobody can reach me"..

From what I see he did make a fraud. There is a lot of money in stake.
Can we do something about this?

Assuming the personal information is correct the simplest thing is to issue a European Payment Order. If we want to hire a lawyer I suggest we discuss that and do it as a group.

I am in.
Lets sue him.
I dont think that the cost will be too high for us. We can split expenses. Can you find out how much it would be approximately?
As salvi said, hes just robbing us. Plain and simple.

I'm happy to look into it, I'll make a quick phone tommorow and try and get an estimation, but for really moving forward we will need cement numbers of people and how much is owed. Last time I spoke to a solicitor they said the best thing to do would be issue the EPO, but considering that was only a few hundred pounds for something and this is much bigger I don't know how much to expect.

Before we seriously speak to a solicitor we need to have an idea who wants representation, so we can list the transactions and amounts. The breach of EU trading law is pretty obvious, but we will have to nail down the dates breached, what has been put forward by Steve ect... Might get pretty time intense, and I do not mind getting my hands dirty despite me moving, starting a new job and planning a wedding right now!
This does need to be about consensus and if there is someone in a better position to pursue legal recourse, such as someone in Romania themselves or even someone more familar with EU law then we should consider that option too. To be honest I'm surprised at the lack of activity in this thread, which means that if we can get the few people on here organised, maybe it won't be as much trouble as I envisage.

I'll finish this post by appealing to Steve (who I am sure reads this thread) to resolve these issues equitably for everyone involved. Me, personally at this point would accept a compromise of some kind. At this point it really feels we are just being screwed over though.




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January 09, 2014, 10:55:35 PM
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I have sent countless messages to Steve simply asking for more information.
He has never replied to me, as we all know he does visit this site on a regular basis, so he is obviously ignoring us.

As for legal steps, you can count me in, but I would be happier to hear what a lawyer would have to say regarding our realistic option(s) before we move forward. They might suggest some other avenues, so there would be no harm in just asking a few questions first.
In my country you can see a lawyer for free the first time to get an idea of what you can/cannot do next.

Realistically, all money recovered would probably go toward paying for the lawyer, but I would be happier doing that rather than Steve profiting.

I think, (in a small part), for the future of Bitcoin we also have to prove that this is not a currency where fraudsters can just get away with blatant theft like that.

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I honestly don't believe Steve went in to scam people. But it's pretty clear that he's in a hole that have left people holding the bag.

SouthernGent, can you put a poll on the thread, so we can get an idea of how many of us are willing to persue legal recourse?

Poll added, I added the bottom one for me, as I have been settled and therefore am trying to restrict my posts and opinions as much as possible.

I do not believe Steve started out to scam, however he saw an opportunity to make a quick buck with our coins and took it, problem being the quick buck didn't turn up and the HUGE price increase blew up his plan..

A scam is a scam despite intentions.

I am keeping an eye out here, just not as often as I should. If you require any maintenance of the thread please feel free to shoot me a PM, as I nearly missed the request for a poll..

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January 10, 2014, 01:21:41 AM
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Anyone has a cell number on Steve?

add him as a friend on FB and ask there Grin https://www.facebook.com/t13hydra

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Address: Margaritarilor Nr 17
City: Cluj Napoca
Postal Code: 400634
Country: Romania
Phone: +40.40749154594
Email: t13hydra@gmail.com

P.S. btw, check his wife's last photo album "Munchen" - looks like those BTC's are in good hands Grin


If you scan his QR code on facebook it has his phone no. as +40757717688

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P.S. btw, check his wife's last photo album "Munchen" - looks like those BTC's are in good hands Grin
yeah, he took our money, bought miners, did not pay us anything and he is happy because he is thinking: "I live in fucking Hungury - nobody can reach me"..

From what I see he did make a fraud. There is a lot of money in stake.
Can we do something about this?

Assuming the personal information is correct the simplest thing is to issue a European Payment Order. If we want to hire a lawyer I suggest we discuss that and do it as a group.

I am in.
Lets sue him.
I dont think that the cost will be too high for us. We can split expenses. Can you find out how much it would be approximately?
As salvi said, hes just robbing us. Plain and simple.

I'm happy to look into it, I'll make a quick phone tommorow and try and get an estimation, but for really moving forward we will need cement numbers of people and how much is owed. Last time I spoke to a solicitor they said the best thing to do would be issue the EPO, but considering that was only a few hundred pounds for something and this is much bigger I don't know how much to expect.

Before we seriously speak to a solicitor we need to have an idea who wants representation, so we can list the transactions and amounts. The breach of EU trading law is pretty obvious, but we will have to nail down the dates breached, what has been put forward by Steve ect... Might get pretty time intense, and I do not mind getting my hands dirty despite me moving, starting a new job and planning a wedding right now!
This does need to be about consensus and if there is someone in a better position to pursue legal recourse, such as someone in Romania themselves or even someone more familar with EU law then we should consider that option too. To be honest I'm surprised at the lack of activity in this thread, which means that if we can get the few people on here organised, maybe it won't be as much trouble as I envisage.

I'll finish this post by appealing to Steve (who I am sure reads this thread) to resolve these issues equitably for everyone involved. Me, personally at this point would accept a compromise of some kind. At this point it really feels we are just being screwed over though.
I'm in... But if it goes to that then all BTC not just chips must be returned...
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January 10, 2014, 09:50:52 AM
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An interesting question is how much will even be able to be recovered at this point.

Anyway, since I don't have an idea of the numbers I'll phone a solicitor anyway and ask about their opinion on the best way to proceed and post his reply.




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