User Topparkeds scammed me for .15 BTC [PAID IN FULL!!]

[owlcatz]

What happened::

I had an auction and on March 19, 2018, 11:58:34 PM the user Topparkeds won for a bid of .205 BTC .

Having sold this person coins already with no issue at all, they said they would pay me in the am and sent me shipping details, so I stupidly sent the package before verifying I  had been paid, thereby trusting this user whom I have dealt with prior with no issues. (My bad, obviously)

They paid a small portion, then another, and then went silent. I Have tried in all best faith to give this user help in paying this off, however, they have left me no choice at this point but to post this.

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1899852

Prior account, claims it was hacked:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96892

Reference Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3107799.msg32713607#msg32713607

Amount Scammed:

At this point, the balance is:

+ 0.205 (initial auction win)
- 0.01611764 (1st payment - BTC - txid bd3a55f2b5b2b9756db72bd54b0e441b61eebfb03ce902b5602dfd57e45eee1b)
- 0.03219331 (2nd Payment - BTC - txid 891425bc34e701763775c36f796aefd9ac3117fcf54a5188ae7b151df2171001
- 0.00977939 (3rd Payment - BTC - txid b7f34a8887706a60b3792f5df30a25e96a783643b473f9f17e5dc5457a5e3fc5
- 0.04501286 (4th Payment - BTC - txid d1aec81135f6abd69dc8e93dc5a281b0b37a80568d5312bdd2d698faafa5d60b
- 0.04501286 (5th Payment - BTC - txid be5d8b0ad7f06b3d298fa31ddebc3b94febf1a43c54b6f03086571752a7d8155
- 0.05688394 (Final Payemnt - BTC - txid d8d5ca2b6f865063704a2a76a1d47ad7d0456dd81e59c8a71e781e511cc999f7
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= 0.0 - PAID OFF!! - [UPDATED]

Payment Method:

Bitcoin

Proof of Payment:

See above

PM/Chat Logs:

After I pm'ed him and let him know he won the auction:



Later after asking him where the txid was that he sent me, he replied with this:



(It's a screenshot of windows btc core stuck on 99% sync).  
Anyhow, that Txid never worked, so I questioned him again, and told him if he can't pay eventually, I'd have to post (this) scam acc.



Additional Notes:

I Have this users doxx (Name and full address, other info as needed). I gave them multiple opportunities and waited a while here, but he still does not want to pay apparently. This was my last message I sent him after checking his last active time and comparing to my final note that I would be posting this and indeed, he must have seen my messages, so this is deserved .

If I don't get my BTC for this, I will be posting the users information in the Investigations sub.

Thank you for reading.

Update - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3214107.msg33480921#msg33480921
Update 2 - User has replied below with plans to pay this off

[1714851089]

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[EcuaMobi]

I've asked Topparkeds to reply here. I've left negative trust until this is solved. I hope it will be

[owlcatz]

I've asked Topparkeds to reply here. I've left negative trust until this is solved. I hope it will be

Thank you again. He did offer me a postal order for 1k at one point, but I declined for reasons I won't state here. I was very nice about all of this, even now. I gave him a lot of time and options like refusing the package and I would pay him back even but never any replies but what I posted so far. 

[Golberg]

woooow this forum is full with strange history 
i never know this will be happened in 2018 ,a legendary scammed by a newbie

[owlcatz]

woooow this forum is full with strange history 
i never know this will be happened in 2018 ,a legendary scammed by a newbie

it's nothing new, we all make mistakes. Fuck off or contribute in a positive way. -1 merit for you!

[timerland]

Damn, that's brutal. I understand that people can definitely get scammed by previous trading partners and there is probably more trust put in them, for good or bad. Guess that's a lesson for us all to learn, never ship goods to someone until you've received full payment or that escrow has confirmed that they have indeed secured payment in their possession.

Hopefully he can come out and pay this as he promised.

You're at an advantage here, though. He probably couldn't resell the coin easily since it's in an ANACS slab and that can be tracked quite easily if he decided to use an alt account to sell it. Also you've got the dox which you have every right to release if he doesn't respond say, in a week.

[owlcatz]

Update - He got back online and pm'ed me. He claimed he would "send me btc this weekend". I will give him until after the weekend. Thanks

[hedgy73]

Update - He got back online and pm'ed me. He claimed he would "send me btc this weekend". I will give him until after the weekend. Thanks

Shame its taken a dox threat and negative trust to get him to contact you what a loser .

[owlcatz]

Update - He got back online and pm'ed me. He claimed he would "send me btc this weekend". I will give him until after the weekend. Thanks

Shame its taken a dox threat and negative trust to get him to contact you what a loser .

It actually took that AND a phone message to him.

[hedgy73]

Update - He got back online and pm'ed me. He claimed he would "send me btc this weekend". I will give him until after the weekend. Thanks

Shame its taken a dox threat and negative trust to get him to contact you what a loser .

It actually took that AND a phone message to him.

Wow some people are unbelievable especially as you had his address, fingers crossed you get your money .

[owlcatz]

Update - He got back online and pm'ed me. He claimed he would "send me btc this weekend". I will give him until after the weekend. Thanks

Shame its taken a dox threat and negative trust to get him to contact you what a loser .

It actually took that AND a phone message to him.

Wow some people are unbelievable especially as you had his address, fingers crossed you get your money .

I'm told he will be sending me .06 tomorrow. We shall see.

[magneto]

Update - He got back online and pm'ed me. He claimed he would "send me btc this weekend". I will give him until after the weekend. Thanks

Shame its taken a dox threat and negative trust to get him to contact you what a loser .

It actually took that AND a phone message to him.

Wow some people are unbelievable especially as you had his address, fingers crossed you get your money .

I'm told he will be sending me .06 tomorrow. We shall see.

We'll see, it's a shame though that he has to be reminded that his dox will be rightfully released to the public if they don't pay. This guy probably wasn't going to pay back anything if you didn't have that dox. You should have his address as well because you shipped the item to him before he paid right?

This is just another case of escrow not being used/blindly trusting your trading partner. Shows that even high ranking users can make mistakes like this and it can be pretty costly.

BTW, did he give any ETA on when he'll send the rest of the funds(0.09 BTC that is)? Did he give any reason for sending his money in small chunks like this? Either way, he's not to be trusted even if he does pay back.

[BTCforJoe]

Honestly, it sounds to me that he doesn't have the funds to cover the balance at the moment, which just means that he should not have bid on the coins in the first place if he didn't expect to win.

Given that it has now been a week and a half and the payment was not sent, I would consider that a violation of the auction, and regardless of whether he pays you in full or not, feel that the negative trust rating is still valid.

If he would have been forthcoming and just stated that he doesn't have the funds, rather than playing this nickel-and-dime game and disappearing act, I'm sure it would be easier to work out a fair deal. But because he has chosen to be non-responsive, I don't see why the negative rating would be removed, even if/after he pays in full.

Just my two.

[owlcatz]

Honestly, it sounds to me that he doesn't have the funds to cover the balance at the moment, which just means that he should not have bid on the coins in the first place if he didn't expect to win.

Given that it has now been a week and a half and the payment was not sent, I would consider that a violation of the auction, and regardless of whether he pays you in full or not, feel that the negative trust rating is still valid.

If he would have been forthcoming and just stated that he doesn't have the funds, rather than playing this nickel-and-dime game and disappearing act, I'm sure it would be easier to work out a fair deal. But because he has chosen to be non-responsive, I don't see why the negative rating would be removed, even if/after he pays in full.

Just my two.

I agree with your assumptions - that's exactly how it seemed. I even told him he could just reject the package and I would send back the BTC.

What really gets me is that the price of BTC keeps falling, so I'm losing both TIME & $$$ here either way...  

I'll update this tomorrow with any thing else. I just want my .15 back ffs.  

[magneto]

Honestly, it sounds to me that he doesn't have the funds to cover the balance at the moment, which just means that he should not have bid on the coins in the first place if he didn't expect to win.

Given that it has now been a week and a half and the payment was not sent, I would consider that a violation of the auction, and regardless of whether he pays you in full or not, feel that the negative trust rating is still valid.

If he would have been forthcoming and just stated that he doesn't have the funds, rather than playing this nickel-and-dime game and disappearing act, I'm sure it would be easier to work out a fair deal. But because he has chosen to be non-responsive, I don't see why the negative rating would be removed, even if/after he pays in full.

Just my two.

Yep. It sure seems like that Topparkeds just doesn't have the money to afford to buy the item being auctioned for now which explains the fact that he disappeared then reappeared when there was a concern with his dox being made public. Even now, he is saying that he will repay partially instead of repaying with a lump sum all at once, which means that he probably never had the intention to pay on time in the beginning.

If he had just come out and said that he made a mistake, it would have been more acceptable.

But apparently he decided that just ignoring the thread for a couple of days without communication will be alright, which is definitely not the right way to handle this. That's why I said as well that he shouldn't be trusted, even if he pays back.

I agree with your assumptions - that's exactly how it seemed. I even told him he could just reject the package and I would send back the BTC.

What really gets me is that the price of BTC keeps falling, so I'm losing both TIME & $$$ here either way... 

I'll update this tomorrow with any thing else. I just want my .15 back ffs. 

I don't think that you can do anything about BTC falling because the whole deal was in BTC. Oh well, we're all in the same boat here 

[owlcatz]

Nah I hear ya bud, but I wanted to cash some out before it went below 9k.

And yeah, this is what happens when you are not careful - That said, I'm never shipping anything again until I'm paid in full - In this case, there were no problems before and I certainly didn't expect any this time, he was perfectly nice and honest before. I think he just didn't mean to win. I agree he should have just said that, or at least replied on this thread. He was on this AM, I talked to him briefly.

No explanation as to why such smaller amounts. but I will take what I can get at this point. I'm a quarter of the way there, that was a really nice coin too!

He has at least apologized for not staying in touch - I have been as nice as I can be, but this shit is a waste of my time. I have better things to do like make more $...

[OgNasty]

Always use escrow. 

[owlcatz]

Always use escrow.  

Nah, fuck off, sausage kid - you help scammers like Quickseller scam people in your escrow thread. Congrats on that, genius move!  

[snakey]

Always use escrow.  

Nah, fuck off, sausage kid - you help scammers like Quickseller scam people in your escrow thread. Congrats on that, genius move!  

If that buyer is not yet serving you with money then go forth and dox him, here is no use of rattling around.

[topparkeds]

i admit i should of dealt with this differantly and take full responsiblilty. I have made 4 payments as of today and will have this fully paid off by this week. As a bonus i am sending owlcatz a unfunded lealana for the troubles on top of the balance