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Here is a breakdown of sMerit sent during the period going from 24/01/2018 through to 23/03/2018. My focus this time is to present the data (Tx data originated from the merit.txt file) by rank, and see the amount of sMerit sent from one Rank to another. The data only relates to users involved in an sMerit Transaction, so users who have neither sent nor received sMerit are not part of the scope of study. Bare in mind that graphs show which Ranks receive more sMerit from a given Rank. This is often logical due to the amount of user per Rank. Note: Rank is not the Rank that the user had at the time of sending each sMerit (which would be desirable, but way more complex), but the current Rank of each user. Therefore, the data presented is a good aproximation, but not exact.Note: It may be interesting to add to the tables the average received per user in a given rank level and a few other fields. I wanted to keep it simple for now, so those may be added later on if required.The intention is merely statistical, so without further delay, here it goes.... Ranked-up UsersBacktracking the data, we can see who has ranked-up since the Merit Sytem was set in motion: 0 Legendary 4 Hero Members (from Sr. Member) 18 Sr. Members (from Full Member) 39 Full Members (from Member, 3 of them from lower ranks) 975 Members (from Jr Members or lower) Not too many really given the size of the community. What would be good to know is how many ranked up in 2 months before the system was set in motion to see if this a good pace or not. Lists of users that ranked up to Hero and Sr Member are provided at the end of this post. Note: Those are regular ranks (I don't know if Copper Members rank up to let's say Legendary at somepoint). 1. Merit SendersAs expected, sent sMerit is totally correlated to the Senders Rank. Nevertheless, if we compare it to the Merit bare minimun required per Rank, things are not proportional. For example, Full Member requires 100 Merits and Sr. Member 250 (x2,5). But the difference between those two groups is less than 2 points when it comes to sending sMerit. Another fact I found astonising, if I'm not wrong, is that only a small portion of sMerit has actually been given away up to now. If we add up all the Merit gained by all users and half-it, we get rougly 1 million sMerit in possesion of users (not counting Merit Sources). Since all TX add up to 111.872 sMerits, it means that only 10,52% has been given out so far.... and that is only adding-up the sMerit from users that have given at least 1 sMerit in this perior of time (more users exist having not yet given any away). Edit: Included 03/04/2018 Note: Only users that have sent at least 1 sMerit are included in the dataset shown.2. Merit ReceiversThe amount of sMerit received per unique user recreases with rank (this is visible looking at the rable and dividing Merit/numUsersTo. The graph shows more %sMerit received by Full Members and Members, but they are the larger groups so it´s logical. 3. Merit Sent from Administrators. Who they send it to:4. Merit Sent from Global Moderators. Who they send it to:5. Merit Sent from Staff. Who they send it to:6. Merit Sent from Donators. Who they send it to:7. Merit Sent from Copper Members. Who they send it to:8. Merit Sent from Legendaries. Who they send it to:9. Merit Sent from Hero Members. Who they send it to:10. Merit Sent from Sr. Members. Who they send it to:11. Merit Sent from Full Members. Who they send it to:12. Merit Sent from Members. Who they send it to:13. Merit Sent from Jr. Members. Who they send it to:14. Merit Sent from Newbies. Who they send it to:15. Merit Sent from Brand New. Who they send it to:List of ranked up users (top ranks):Who became Hero Members?: name earnedMerit MeritBefore urlgawlea 256 300 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=925926mstfprcn 282 250 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=915311RichDaniel 283 250 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886352TheQuin 235 268 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=143168Who became Sr. Members?: name earnedMerit MeritBefore urlalexberezov 150 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1066970AlyattesLydia 165 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1046135Bitcocoin 171 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=905883BOMG 150 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1033117Chachacoin 17 150 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1002351First1by 153 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=988901niknik1966 151 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1013524PHI1618 154 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1071136scutzi128 155 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=163631Lantind 150 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=763725Twinscoin 2017 228 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1093001levyashin 152 101 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1023029Yury1 148 102 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1056566ui_zakharchenko 185 103 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052653Toxic2040 200 103 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=239406hugeblack 150 105 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1059082hirozaki faraday 144 117 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1080356mithrim 120 142 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1056258Note: The list of the other ranks that ranked would make this post too long. Special Ranks I figure don't follow the same ranking up rules. Nevertheless, out of the 133 Copper Member with a sMerit Tx, 15 stand out for having earned more than 50 sMerits: name earnedMerit MeritBefore urlLutpin 686 1001 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=520313nullius 679 24 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210bill gator 218 504 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=370611shorena 200 1005 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181801LeGaulois 179 503 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507856Kreds 178 0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1122274actmyname 156 1003 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017minerjones 122 1004 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=346731Matthias 9515 90 250 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1018510Battlestar_Coin 78 0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1792612Avirunes 57 1000 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=175302bL4nkcode 52 501 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765632Dropper 52 10 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1091123irfan_pak 10 50 1003 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=350580Wingzcrypto 2018 50 0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1951507Note: MeritBefore may no be exactly before, since all dataset are not extracted on exactly the same date.
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March 29, 2018, 06:37:26 PM |
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I looked all the way through that post, and I didn't see any tables about awards by Hero members.
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DdmrDdmr (OP)
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March 29, 2018, 06:41:14 PM |
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I looked all the way through that post, and I didn't see any tables about awards by Hero members.
Point number 9 (9. Merit Sent from Hero Members. Who they send it to) is sMerit given by Hero Members to all other Ranks ..
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March 29, 2018, 06:52:16 PM |
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Although the numbers is small, this statistics prove that every rank in this forum got merits from each of ranks. I guess it will be increased in the future when we have more merit sources ( and i cannot wait for it to be happen). For OP, i give you an sMerits because i can not give much this time. I looked all the way through that post, and I didn't see any tables about awards by Hero members.
Maybe your "this account's" browser can not open the no. 9 table specifically
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March 29, 2018, 07:01:21 PM |
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I had to use "view image" to see it.
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March 29, 2018, 07:01:28 PM |
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Early on, in late January and early Febuary I think I gave most of my sMerits to higher-ranked members, though I didn't keep track and I haven't even looked. Lately, I've been trying to give sMerits out to lower-ranked members who really deserve it. The problem is that there are so few posts I see by Newbie-Member ranks that are worth meriting--but I have fairly high standards and only so much sMerit to give.
And dammit, some of the best posts are written by Hero-Legendary ranked members. There's no getting around that, in my opinion. Right now I'm totally out of sMerits, but if and when I get some I'll continue trying to reward the people who need to rank up. I try to avoid meriting Legendary members, but I have no problem sending sMerits to Heros. They need it as well.
Decent analysis, OP. I owe you a merit.
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March 29, 2018, 07:53:18 PM |
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I wonder who the brand new member was who managed to send 6 smerit to a senior member whilst he was still brand new.
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March 29, 2018, 08:01:28 PM |
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>..<
I looked through your post history, and I gave you a couple of merits for your gambling post. Thanks for drawing my attention to this board, and I'll make sure that I visit it in the future. Reckless gambling is a serious problem for many people, but not the banks it seems.
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March 29, 2018, 08:13:10 PM |
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I looked through your post history, and I gave you a couple of merits for your gambling post.
Aww, thanks. And I gave what I said I'd give to OP here. I wasn't subtly begging for merit with my post in this thread, either. It's just that I've run out of sMerits and keep wanting to give them to people who make threads like this, that are nicely thought through and well-presented, and I just don't have the merits to give. It's not that I'm trying to keep the poor noob (or Member in this case) down--I'm really not able to give out more merit than I have, and that's the bottom line. I have a feeling that there are other people around here who are in the same boat. Can't give what you don't have, right? Just FYI: That post I made in the gambling thread was more about addiction than gambling, and that's why I made it. I generally don't have a lot to say about real gambling and the mechanics thereof, since I don't partake in that vice--but I'm all too familiar with addiction. That whole thread caught my eye, and there are some crazy degenerate gamblers on bitcointalk who probably need some help in quitting. That'll ruin people and families just as easily as the current fentanyl-laced bags of heroin are doing.
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March 29, 2018, 08:13:18 PM Last edit: March 29, 2018, 08:41:56 PM by coinlocket$ |
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This can confirm what I wrote in the past, often high rank people don't even read what low rank people say. (Not everyone, of course!) At decreasing of the rank for givers the merit for low rank people increase. At the increasing of the rank for givers the merit for low rank people decrease.
@OP, Can you extrapolate from your data who or how many ranked up with the merit system?
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March 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM |
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>..<
My guess is that it is a full member account that was purchased after the merit air drop, and all the posts were deleted.
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DdmrDdmr (OP)
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March 29, 2018, 08:20:56 PM |
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>..<
My guess is that it is a full member account that was purchased after the merit air drop, and all the posts were deleted. Yes thanks. Makes sense: He has 105 Merit (100 airdrop + 5 received). All posts deleted therefore Brand New rank.
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March 29, 2018, 08:28:23 PM |
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Where from such information? How many users participated in the calculation? Poin 13. Merit Sent from Jr. Members. Who they send it to, I'm Jr. member, but I have no sMerits to send. It's is only I or what?
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March 29, 2018, 08:31:31 PM |
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Where from such information? How many users participated in the calculation? Poin 13. Merit Sent from Jr. Members. Who they send it to, I'm Jr. member, but I have no sMerits to send. It's is only I or what?
You should have 5, unless you have spent them. Have you clicked on the merit button? It's at the top right of any post.
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DdmrDdmr (OP)
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March 29, 2018, 08:50:48 PM Last edit: March 29, 2018, 09:15:21 PM by DdmrDdmr |
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Where from such information? How many users participated in the calculation? Poin 13. Merit Sent from Jr. Members. Who they send it to, I'm Jr. member, but I have no sMerits to send. It's is only I or what?
Chart 1 tells you how many users and merit transactions are considered in the Analysis. Look at the totals there. Basically, every user that had either sent or received at least one sMerit since it was put in motion. You have 10 Merit, so therefore 5 sMerit. The thing is it does not appear on the user profile but you will see it by pressing the +merit link that appears on every post as Talk merit pointed out.
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March 29, 2018, 09:29:54 PM |
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This can confirm what I wrote in the past, often high rank people don't even read what low rank people say. (Not everyone, of course!) At decreasing of the rank for givers the merit for low rank people increase. At the increasing of the rank for givers the merit for low rank people decrease.
@OP, Can you extrapolate from your data who or how many ranked up with the merit system?
Well, if he extrapolate that data, myself would be accounted to that data , but i dont know, i didnt ranked up yet, still waiting for my activity, but i have seen a lot of people ranking up since this merit system, some of them that i can remember are iasenko (going to full member from member) and TheQuin (going to hero member from senior member). So, merit rocks !
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March 29, 2018, 10:47:45 PM Last edit: March 29, 2018, 10:59:20 PM by coinlocket$ |
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This can confirm what I wrote in the past, often high rank people don't even read what low rank people say. (Not everyone, of course!) At decreasing of the rank for givers the merit for low rank people increase. At the increasing of the rank for givers the merit for low rank people decrease.
@OP, Can you extrapolate from your data who or how many ranked up with the merit system?
Well, if he extrapolate that data, myself would be accounted to that data , but i dont know, i didnt ranked up yet, still waiting for my activity, but i have seen a lot of people ranking up since this merit system, some of them that i can remember are iasenko (going to full member from member) and TheQuin (going to hero member from senior member). So, merit rocks ! I've also ranked but I'm statistics fanatic and I asked if it was possible
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DdmrDdmr (OP)
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March 30, 2018, 08:23:35 AM Last edit: March 30, 2018, 04:37:04 PM by DdmrDdmr |
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<...> @OP, Can you extrapolate from your data who or how many ranked up with the merit system?
Yes, i had it on my list of potential other information to derive...but I'm already getting this kind of look from people around me for forgetting them: I Included a new section at the top with a list of members that ranked up, and at the bottom of the post the names of the users of both Hero and Sr Members thar ranked up, with a reference to Copper Members that performed really well. In summary: Ranked-up UsersBacktracking the data, we can see who has ranked-up since the Merit Sytem was set in motion: 0 Legendary 4 Hero Members (from Sr. Member) 18 Sr. Members (from Full Member) 39 Full Members (from Member, 3 of them from lower ranks) 975 Members (from Jr Members or lower)
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March 30, 2018, 09:55:50 AM |
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Here is a breakdown of sMerit sent during the period going from 24/01/2018 through to 23/03/2018.
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Note: MeritBefore may no be exactly before, since all dataset are not extracted on exactly the same date.
I don't understand this bit as the system was introduced on 24/1 shouldn't everybody's before number be equal to their rank? So all Sr. Members would have started at 250 etc. I just wanted to make the point that you can't really do a comparison of the numbers that ranked up yet as it takes 8.5 months to get the activity to get from Sr. to Hero we'll have to wait that long to get a fair measure.
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