Can't determine problem with rig... Advice needed.

[beachfrontnoob]

I might murder my rig...

I cannot figured out what is wrong with my rig. Everything was working great for two months and now nothing. Not one of my cards will hash, everytime claymore starts it goes to 0 mh/s then freezes. Meaning, my whole system freezes up and I have to hard reset. When isolating the GPUs this still occurs.  Does not matter if I have one running or all 6.  I am ready to shoot this thing.

I suspect that is it my motherboard or power supply. None of my cards will work on this rig, but they work without issue on other systems.

Claymore will run for no longer than 30 seconds until the entire system freezes.  When I restart my system after the hard reset I have a notification of, "Application has been blocked from accessing Graphics hardware."
.

System Info:
-6x MSI RX 570 Armor 4Gb
-6x Victony PCIE x16 Risers.
-1x 128Gb SSD w/ windows 10
-1x 4Gb DDR4 RAM
-1x BioStar TB-250 BTC 6 PCIe
-1X EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W 80+Gold -
1X Intel BX80662G4400
-Running Windows 10
-Running Claymore miner 11.5, ETH only



What I have attempted:
-DDU
-Clean install of the driver
-Pixel Patcher
-Loaded each card up one by one
-Tested the risers
-Reinstalled Windows 10
-This: https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/application-blocked-accessing-graphics-hardware-error-windows-10-solved/
-FUCKING EVERYTHING

Any ideas?

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[treanski]

dont connect your risers with sata or sata to molex/6pin adapters...it can work well for some time, but usually ends up like this
connect them directly from your psu with molex or 6pin and not more than 2 risers/line

[Giorgi.mm]

Are you getting error message in claymore "No GPU detected" ?

[Geraldo]

Have you tried hashing with half of your cards? At least three cards.
In the new Windows 10, have you increase virtual memory?
Also, this could be powering issue, hows you powering your GPUs and risers (power scheme)? By the way.

How about GPUs temperature?
Bad risers also can be causing this kind of issue, but you said all of the risers was fine.
Don't forget to make sure you have to set your mobo's bios correctly.

[leonix007]

I might murder my rig...

 my whole system freezes up and I have to hard reset. When isolating the GPUs this still occurs.  Does not matter if I have one running or all 6. 

Have you tried using one GPU directly plugged PCI-e x16 slot on the board, then fire up miner?

I suspect that is it my motherboard or power supply.

If the above setup runs successfully, you either have a bad riser or power supply issue

[beachfrontnoob]

I might murder my rig...

 my whole system freezes up and I have to hard reset. When isolating the GPUs this still occurs.  Does not matter if I have one running or all 6.

Have you tried using one GPU directly plugged PCI-e x16 slot on the board, then fire up miner?

I suspect that is it my motherboard or power supply.

If the above setup runs successfully, you either have a bad riser or power supply issue

I have not tried that. I will do so shortly and report back.

[beachfrontnoob]

Are you getting error message in claymore "No GPU detected" ?

No claymore detects all cards without issue.

[beachfrontnoob]

dont connect your risers with sata or sata to molex/6pin adapters...it can work well for some time, but usually ends up like this
connect them directly from your psu with molex or 6pin and not more than 2 risers/line

Risers have always been connected correctly.

[bobben2]

I upgraded my rigs from Win7 to Win 10 not long ago and had an array of problems to resolve to get mining going.
I suspect your Win 10 is preventing Claymore miner from starting up.  Great help is not far away, however,
I for one snatched up a few tips from this site https://mining.help/
In particular, I ran the script descriped under section 4.2 WINDOWS 10 REGISTRY TWEAKS FOR MINING
This is a bat script that stops parts of Win 10 to interfere with your mining.   For example it turns off Windows Defender so it
doesn't stop miner programs

[smaxz]

check your drive integrity.. have you tried reformatting and reinstalling?

cant hurt to burn like ethos to a usb stick and boot it to rule out any hardware issues.

[beachfrontnoob]

I upgraded my rigs from Win7 to Win 10 not long ago and had an array of problems to resolve to get mining going.
I suspect your Win 10 is preventing Claymore miner from starting up.  Great help is not far away, however,
I for one snatched up a few tips from this site https://mining.help/
In particular, I ran the script descriped under section 4.2 WINDOWS 10 REGISTRY TWEAKS FOR MINING
This is a bat script that stops parts of Win 10 to interfere with your mining.   For example it turns off Windows Defender so it
doesn't stop miner programs

Hi,

Thanks for the response.  Windows defender is completely disabled through the registry.

[beachfrontnoob]

I might murder my rig...

 my whole system freezes up and I have to hard reset. When isolating the GPUs this still occurs.  Does not matter if I have one running or all 6.

Have you tried using one GPU directly plugged PCI-e x16 slot on the board, then fire up miner?

I suspect that is it my motherboard or power supply.

If the above setup runs successfully, you either have a bad riser or power supply issue

I have not tried that. I will do so shortly and report back.

So I attempted to put one of cards on the PCI-e 16x slot, and it worked fine.  Hashed without issue.  However, I do not believe it is the riser.  I have swapped out MULTIPLE risers and still had the same issue.  So you think it is the power supple then??

[BaNgTHai]

how are you overclocking the cards?
I had this problem when switching algos and editing inside the .bat file. If you are overclocking in the  .bat file then mess with the occlock and mclock

[beachfrontnoob]

how are you overclocking the cards?
I had this problem when switching algos and editing inside the .bat file. If you are overclocking in the  .bat file then mess with the occlock and mclock

Not overclocking at all as of this moment.  Just trying to get things up and running right now.  Everything is at stock settings.

[Geraldo]

-snip-

Have you tried using one GPU directly plugged PCI-e x16 slot on the board, then fire up miner?

I suspect that is it my motherboard or power supply.

If the above setup runs successfully, you either have a bad riser or power supply issue

-snip-

So I attempted to put one of cards on the PCI-e 16x slot, and it worked fine.  Hashed without issue.  However, I do not believe it is the riser.  I have swapped out MULTIPLE risers and still had the same issue.  So you think it is the power supple then??

Then you can add one more card using a riser, just to make sure what the issue is. If with one card directly plugging to PCIe 16x plus one other card using a riser was fine, then add one more card.

[BaNgTHai]

how are you overclocking the cards?
I had this problem when switching algos and editing inside the .bat file. If you are overclocking in the  .bat file then mess with the occlock and mclock

Not overclocking at all as of this moment.  Just trying to get things up and running right now.  Everything is at stock settings.

Do you have afterburner?

can you copy your .bat file on here without your address of course.

[beachfrontnoob]

I do have afterburner, not using it at the moment.  Bat file is very simple, but it worked for a long time previously so I don't think that is the issue.


Here is the bat, obviously I took out the usernames and whatnot:


EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool coinotron.com:3344 -ewal user.worker -esm 2 -epsw password -allpools 1 

[Lunga Chung]

Can you try the following, use OverdriveNTool and under volt your cards just a little bit, let say 900mV and report back. If you can mine with this then you might have an PSU issue

[solarion]

I might murder my rig...

I cannot figured out what is wrong with my rig. Everything was working great for two months and now nothing. Not one of my cards will hash, everytime claymore starts it goes to 0 mh/s then freezes. Meaning, my whole system freezes up and I have to hard reset. When isolating the GPUs this still occurs.  Does not matter if I have one running or all 6.  I am ready to shoot this thing.

I suspect that is it my motherboard or power supply. None of my cards will work on this rig, but they work without issue on other systems.

Claymore will run for no longer than 30 seconds until the entire system freezes.  When I restart my system after the hard reset I have a notification of, "Application has been blocked from accessing Graphics hardware."
.

System Info:
-6x MSI RX 570 Armor 4Gb
-6x Victony PCIE x16 Risers.
-1x 128Gb SSD w/ windows 10
-1x 4Gb DDR4 RAM
-1x BioStar TB-250 BTC 6 PCIe
-1X EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W 80+Gold -
1X Intel BX80662G4400
-Running Windows 10
-Running Claymore miner 11.5, ETH only



What I have attempted:
-DDU
-Clean install of the driver
-Pixel Patcher
-Loaded each card up one by one
-Tested the risers
-Reinstalled Windows 10
-This: https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/application-blocked-accessing-graphics-hardware-error-windows-10-solved/
-FUCKING EVERYTHING

Any ideas?

There may be a problem in your windows OS or power cords connected from the PSU to cards will be the reason for it buddy. Please choose the right os which is specially meant for mining alone. If you use the general windows OS with the claymore means you will find these kind of issue.
Check and restart after 15 minutes whenever you find the issue on your mining rig.
Sometime changing the OS only will give the result for this issue. Please try it and let me know.

[BaNgTHai]

I do have afterburner, not using it at the moment.  Bat file is very simple, but it worked for a long time previously so I don't think that is the issue.


Here is the bat, obviously I took out the usernames and whatnot:


EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool coinotron.com:3344 -ewal user.worker -esm 2 -epsw password -allpools 1 

-cclock 1250 -mclock 1850

trying putting that into the .bat file without awesome miner on. I know it may not seem like the issue but this saved me before.

also before it freezes does is there a pop up in the bottom left corner saying AMD setting have been restored to default?

[BaNgTHai]

Also, I would turn off all the updates on windows if you are mining windows 10.

[beachfrontnoob]

-snip-

Have you tried using one GPU directly plugged PCI-e x16 slot on the board, then fire up miner?

I suspect that is it my motherboard or power supply.

If the above setup runs successfully, you either have a bad riser or power supply issue

-snip-

So I attempted to put one of cards on the PCI-e 16x slot, and it worked fine.  Hashed without issue.  However, I do not believe it is the riser.  I have swapped out MULTIPLE risers and still had the same issue.  So you think it is the power supple then??

Then you can add one more card using a riser, just to make sure what the issue is. If with one card directly plugging to PCIe 16x plus one other card using a riser was fine, then add one more card.

So I tried adding more, and it immediately froze within 40 seconds, as soon as I got to the "GPU Buffer" line on claymore.
Then you can add one more card using a riser, just to make sure what the issue is. If with one card directly plugging to PCIe 16x plus one other card using a riser was fine, then add one more card.

[aundroid]

STOP WINDOWS UPDATE
In RUN type “services.msc“, the services page will be open
Search for “Windows Update“
Click “Stop” if status is “Live” or “Checking/Running“
Select “Disabled” on “Startup type“
Apply & Restart
Do it again and make sure that it is disabled
Also if you want you can disable more services..

source: http://1stminingrig.com/best-windows-setup-configuration-tweaks-for-mining/

[beachfrontnoob]

STOP WINDOWS UPDATE
In RUN type “services.msc“, the services page will be open
Search for “Windows Update“
Click “Stop” if status is “Live” or “Checking/Running“
Select “Disabled” on “Startup type“
Apply & Restart
Do it again and make sure that it is disabled
Also if you want you can disable more services..

Already done so 

[aundroid]

Already done so  

ok, most often the windows updates result in a system freeze.

here the next things you can give a try:

INCREASE VIRTUAL MEMORY
In search type “This PC“, right click on it and choose “Properties“
Then click on “Advanced System Settings“
On “Advanced” tab where it says “Performance” click on “Settings“
Click “Advanced” tab
At the bottom you will see “Virtual memory“, click on “Change“
1. Uncheck “Automatically manage paging file size for all drives“
2. Check “Custom size“
3. In the “Initial size (MB)” type: 3000 (or directly 16000)
4. In the “Maximum size (MB)” type: 16000 (or more like 20k)
5. Click “Set” , then “OK” and “Apply“
Restart the rig

POWER PLAN AND OPTIONS
In search type “Power Options“
Click on “Show additional plans“
Select “High Performance” plan
Then still on “High Performance” plan, click “Change plan settings“
Select “Never” on all four selections for “Turn off the display” and “Put the computer to sleep“
Click “Change advanced power settings” and look for “PCI Express” -> “Link State Power Management“, make sure it is set to “OFF“, usually it is but better to check on that
Restart the rig

source: http://1stminingrig.com/best-windows-setup-configuration-tweaks-for-mining/

And you can also try a different Miner like Ethminer! https://github.com/ethereum-mining/ethminer/releases

What happens when you start mining an equihash coin, like btcz or zen?

[Geraldo]

So I tried adding more, and it immediately froze within 40 seconds, as soon as I got to the "GPU Buffer" line on claymore.

Ow, I was missing important info here (sorry):

Claymore will run for no longer than 30 seconds until the entire system freezes.  When I restart my system after the hard reset I have a notification of, "Application has been blocked from accessing Graphics hardware."

I have the same issue before, and This is what I'm doing to fix this issue.

Again, DDU (smile). Then re-install your driver with the latest one, don't do until the last step, just enough until extracting process then cancel the installation. Update your card's driver manually through Device Manager. You can find the installation file on drive C, AMD folder. Then find folder named Packages and so on.

Or else, if possible clone your output, one connected to the monitor and the other one just enough with dummy output.
Another else, lowering all of your settings.

[beachfrontnoob]

Can you try the following, use OverdriveNTool and under volt your cards just a little bit, let say 900mV and report back. If you can mine with this then you might have an PSU issue

Is there a guide out there on how to use OverdriveNTool?  I have no idea on how to use it.

[eleceng1979]

After reading this I believe your bios mods are the reason.  Please use overdriventool and post a picture of a card once you start the program.

Crap memory clocks do the same to my rigs.  Also if someone clocked defaults high, your afterburner clocks got reset and now default clocks are crap and not stable.

If You mod'd your bios flash it back to stock.  I suspect someone was playing with bios flashing and this happened.  There is part of the story missing here...

[CryptoPlay]

Can you try the following, use OverdriveNTool and under volt your cards just a little bit, let say 900mV and report back. If you can mine with this then you might have an PSU issue

Is there a guide out there on how to use OverdriveNTool?  I have no idea on how to use it.

Any Vega guide include instructions to  OverdriveNTool.
http://vega.miningguides.com/

You can exclude the Vega limitations to use this software. It may fully work with the 570.
Basically is a more detailed MSI Afterburner regarding the clocks.

[beachfrontnoob]

After reading this I believe your bios mods are the reason.  Please use overdriventool and post a picture of a card once you start the program.

Crap memory clocks do the same to my rigs.  Also if someone clocked defaults high, your afterburner clocks got reset and now default clocks are crap and not stable.

If You mod'd your bios flash it back to stock.  I suspect someone was playing with bios flashing and this happened.  There is part of the story missing here...

I am not sure how to flash the bios...

[beachfrontnoob]

Can you try the following, use OverdriveNTool and under volt your cards just a little bit, let say 900mV and report back. If you can mine with this then you might have an PSU issue

Here are the settings the cards are currently at.  https://i.imgur.com/iJ1rIDH.png

All the cards are set here.  I am not sure where to change 900mV as you suggested.

[leonix007]

Can you try the following, use OverdriveNTool and under volt your cards just a little bit, let say 900mV and report back. If you can mine with this then you might have an PSU issue

Here are the settings the cards are currently at.  https://i.imgur.com/iJ1rIDH.png

All the cards are set here.  I am not sure where to change 900mV as you suggested.

Nah, I'll definitely discourage you to do OC settings when you do troubleshoots

and I doub't if its a driver issue when you could go 1 cards successfully, based on the picture.

Have you already Done this?

INCREASE VIRTUAL MEMORY
In search type “This PC“, right click on it and choose “Properties“
Then click on “Advanced System Settings“
On “Advanced” tab where it says “Performance” click on “Settings“
Click “Advanced” tab
At the bottom you will see “Virtual memory“, click on “Change“
1. Uncheck “Automatically manage paging file size for all drives“
2. Check “Custom size“
3. In the “Initial size (MB)” type: 3000 (or directly 16000)
4. In the “Maximum size (MB)” type: 16000 (or more like 20k)
5. Click “Set” , then “OK” and “Apply“
Restart the rig

So I attempted to put one of cards on the PCI-e 16x slot, and it worked fine.  Hashed without issue.  However, I do not believe it is the riser.  I have swapped out MULTIPLE risers and still had the same issue.  So you think it is the power supple then??

Well, If you are out of luck this is possible, we've seen users that has 16pcs of brand new risers all Faulty

[Coltcaine]

Try running ethos and all your problems will go away

[vpcrypto2018]

Like others have said, make sure Windows has the correct amount of virtual memory. The formula is:

     N (# of GPUs) * GB per GPU

In my case I needed 6 GPUs * 4 GB = 24 GB (24,576) before Device Manager recognized all my GPUs. I had 20GB before and that was not enough

[smallbitmoney]

First thing first, have you check your MB bios settings? I know it was working perfectly but things might happen unintentionally; who knows.
1. Make sure you have the latest BIOS install.
2. Check if you have mining mode enabled.
3. Did you MB detect all your GPUs?
4. Have you change your PCIE speed? I'm using Gen2.

[beachfrontnoob]

Can you try the following, use OverdriveNTool and under volt your cards just a little bit, let say 900mV and report back. If you can mine with this then you might have an PSU issue

Here are the settings the cards are currently at.  https://i.imgur.com/iJ1rIDH.png

All the cards are set here.  I am not sure where to change 900mV as you suggested.

Nah, I'll definitely discourage you to do OC settings when you do troubleshoots

and I doub't if its a driver issue when you could go 1 cards successfully, based on the picture.

Have you already Done this?

INCREASE VIRTUAL MEMORY
In search type “This PC“, right click on it and choose “Properties“
Then click on “Advanced System Settings“
On “Advanced” tab where it says “Performance” click on “Settings“
Click “Advanced” tab
At the bottom you will see “Virtual memory“, click on “Change“
1. Uncheck “Automatically manage paging file size for all drives“
2. Check “Custom size“
3. In the “Initial size (MB)” type: 3000 (or directly 16000)
4. In the “Maximum size (MB)” type: 16000 (or more like 20k)
5. Click “Set” , then “OK” and “Apply“
Restart the rig

So I attempted to put one of cards on the PCI-e 16x slot, and it worked fine.  Hashed without issue.  However, I do not believe it is the riser.  I have swapped out MULTIPLE risers and still had the same issue.  So you think it is the power supple then??

Well, If you are out of luck this is possible, we've seen users that has 16pcs of brand new risers all Faulty

Yeah, I set the virtual memory. Still no luck.  I think I am going to RMA the power supply and if that solves the issue. 

[Coltcaine]

it dosnt sound like a power supply issue. the new amd drivers in windows dont allow for bios mods and im thinking thats where your issues is.

[beachfrontnoob]

it dosnt sound like a power supply issue. the new amd drivers in windows dont allow for bios mods and im thinking thats where your issues is.

So why it would it work forever and then just all of a sudden not?

Also, I can have one card running just fine.  That doesn't make sense to me?  But, that doesn't say much, I am a noob.

[Lunga Chung]

Can you try the following, use OverdriveNTool and under volt your cards just a little bit, let say 900mV and report back. If you can mine with this then you might have an PSU issue

Here are the settings the cards are currently at.  https://i.imgur.com/iJ1rIDH.png

All the cards are set here.  I am not sure where to change 900mV as you suggested.

check mining.help there is a section regarding Overdrive, don't touch the freq part only the mV (next to frequency). the idea is not to OC memory/core just to lower the consumption. As you can see the memory is already on 900mV just need to lower the core. You can also shade out the steps for core and memory (check mining.help)

[Coltcaine]

it dosnt sound like a power supply issue. the new amd drivers in windows dont allow for bios mods and im thinking thats where your issues is.

So why it would it work forever and then just all of a sudden not?

Also, I can have one card running just fine.  That doesn't make sense to me?  But, that doesn't say much, I am a noob.

Then it may just be a single card try them one at a time till it breaks. I said a simmilar issue turned out to be a riser issue. Your riser may not be getting enough power. Or could be using to many resources for your rig there’s a script somewhere online that disables everything for mining using less resources could be a bios issue on one of your cards your only option is to troubleshoot one thing at a time till u find it

[mariokgo]

Check your Microsoft defender and antivirus.
I have them both disabled, but somehow they activate after some time.
Then i disable again and everythink works fine.