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January 13, 2020, 07:39:26 AM
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is this struggling platform worth me investing into or should i just buy more ethereum?

the tech and dev on waves is great, but both eth and waves have extremely weak to nonexistent economic teams. waves only directly supports russian devs while eth has a bigger ecosystem that supports alot more devs. also eth has western funding and has way more money than waves because of that. waves is better, but eth has more money x 150x. The truth hurts if you want to make good money neither waves or eth seem to be strong investments. tokens on eth have more volume by far, waves is hostile to outside devs non russian.

That's nice comparison with ETH you explained very well what is the big reason why this project still in struggling situation and why not it got succeed to challenge the bigger ecosystem. There was some flaws on that platform a lot of scammers used to create fake tokens and scam the people easily so there was no way to give warning although now they improved a lot and now it is moving forward into right direction but it is too late to catch the same streak like it was had at the beginning.
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January 13, 2020, 03:46:56 PM
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We have burned 1,593,500 tokens, which were collected during the second round of the MRT Farewell Party lottery.

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January 14, 2020, 03:06:12 PM
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Hello anyone knows here what is the Maxx supply of Waves I thought it was 100m but cmc show supply is increasing..
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January 14, 2020, 03:13:29 PM
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Hello anyone knows here what is the Maxx supply of Waves I thought it was 100m but cmc show supply is increasing..

there is no max supply. staking rewards will slowly increase supply similar to how eth 2 is designed. waves is like eth 2 but its working very well instead of eth2 not working at all

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January 14, 2020, 06:37:48 PM
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Hello anyone knows here what is the Maxx supply of Waves I thought it was 100m but cmc show supply is increasing..
As Midas111 said the supply is unlimited now, The change happened about 3 months ago. You can read in detail regarding inflation here. https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-community-driven-monetary-policy-e9018d35b911
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January 15, 2020, 08:10:14 AM
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Hello anyone knows here what is the Maxx supply of Waves I thought it was 100m but cmc show supply is increasing..
As Midas111 said the supply is unlimited now, The change happened about 3 months ago. You can read in detail regarding inflation here. https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-community-driven-monetary-policy-e9018d35b911

It's true that coins are now generated for each blocks.
The monetary policy allow votes to decide how much.
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January 15, 2020, 09:14:11 AM
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Hello anyone knows here what is the Maxx supply of Waves I thought it was 100m but cmc show supply is increasing..
As Midas111 said the supply is unlimited now, The change happened about 3 months ago. You can read in detail regarding inflation here. https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-community-driven-monetary-policy-e9018d35b911

It's true that coins are now generated for each blocks.
The monetary policy allow votes to decide how much.

But how did the last voting period ends? I have not found any results nor got any answer.
Where can I read about the result from the last voting period for changing Waves’ block reward size which has started on 9 December?




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January 15, 2020, 10:15:19 AM
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Hello anyone knows here what is the Maxx supply of Waves I thought it was 100m but cmc show supply is increasing..
As Midas111 said the supply is unlimited now, The change happened about 3 months ago. You can read in detail regarding inflation here. https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-community-driven-monetary-policy-e9018d35b911

It's true that coins are now generated for each blocks.
The monetary policy allow votes to decide how much.

But how did the last voting period ends? I have not found any results nor got any answer.
Where can I read about the result from the last voting period for changing Waves’ block reward size which has started on 9 December?

reward is maintained at the previous level 6 waves per block
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January 15, 2020, 11:30:08 AM
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would be surprised if this would ever get "downvoted" to e.g. 2 or 1 Waves... f*ck the supply and price, the only intention of most forgers is "quick profit" with no if's and but's.
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January 15, 2020, 11:38:14 AM
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reward is maintained at the previous level 6 waves per block
Thanks. But where can I read about the result? Where is the official result?


would be surprised if this would ever get "downvoted" to e.g. 2 or 1 Waves... f*ck the supply and price, the only intention of most forgers is "quick profit" with no if's and but's.
It is in your hands. Lease your waves to https://www.wavesassist.com/waves-reward-voting/. They voting for 4 waves per block. It is not the 2 or 1 Waves which you have mentioned indeed, but it is a start.




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January 16, 2020, 12:33:25 AM
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Can this monetary change also be adapted to waves tokens?

I would like a similar system of dividend for Marquise $Museums M2 token with some improvements:

-Increased voting democracy by max token limit per voter for example 10 000 tokens counts as 10 000 votes maximum even if this voter has 100 000 coins in wallet.

-personal fee management by token issuers. I would like my monetary inflation to be backed by real revenue, so trading M2 will be more expensive in USD because trading fee is backing supply inflation.  A 5% yearly inflation on a 50 000 waves market cap token is equivalent to 2500 USD when Waves is 1 dollar. With 25 000 yearly trades, fee must be 10 cents per trade.

-token issuer automatically receive 15% of all generated fees to sustain company revenue and finance roadmap goals.

Related numbers for waves native price prediction using 10 cent per trade model of valuation:

Max capacity 86 million daily trades (1000 per second)
VISA daily transaction rate: 150 million
Expected market capture optimistic 5 year target: 10%
Revenue: 1.5 million USD per day, half a billion per year
P/E 30 market cap per coin: 16 billion, $160
Requires 80 million active userbase

Competing platforms like PrimeXBT charges 80 cents per trade and is top performing in user activity based on Alexa ranking.

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January 16, 2020, 01:27:16 AM
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Can this monetary change also be adapted to waves tokens?
A 5% yearly inflation on a 50 000 waves market cap token is equivalent to 2500 USD when Waves is 1 dollar. With 25 000 yearly trades, fee must be 10 cents per trade.

I would also like to see an inflation option for tokens, instead of having to issue it manually.

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Competing platforms like PrimeXBT charges 80 cents per trade and is top performing in user activity based on Alexa ranking.

Low cost for transactions and trades is a key Waves feature. But during the all time high the trade fee was around 5 cents.

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What do you actually expect from the airdrops? You can see that tokens are dumped directly after each airdrop. I think that there are few or none who purposely hodl them.

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What do you actually expect from the airdrops? You can see that tokens are dumped directly after each airdrop. I think that there are few or none who purposely hodl them.

I paid less than 4 dollars to reach 2500 ultra targeted affluent consumers/investors.
Similar depth of reach with wall street journal banner ads or adwords would cost x100 or more per thousands of impressions.

There is tremendous upside potential in waves because of this use case as a mass communications tool.

I have received good roi in airdrops with a few large investors, but a more popular product with higher demand could thrive on waves for pennies on the dollarscompared to traditional marketing.

Waves for now is mostly Russian users and daytraders, so there is no merchant or mainstream consumer activity but this should be a priority for waves team to scale as a business concept because this is the golden goose for crypto to be first to market consumer adopted private sector sector digital currency.

Market is worth 20 trillion in annual sales but alot of this value is migrated from fortune 500 migration, I believe private sector crypto can capture up to 10% of this 20 tn on 5 year horizon, of this 2 tn, wavescan capture up to 25%. Of this 500 billion, valuation is calculated on fees derived from transactions using VISA statistics.

There are other value components for Waves because it is also competing in private banking, but the main source of market growth is from company migration, capture, in traditional stock market.

Captured companies will require asset base to interact with customers, they will hoard a share of waves for this purpose. My target stack for M2 as a nano cap company is 30 000 to 200 000 waves, you can imagine that a midcap will want even more in relative USD crypto capitalization.

The investors today on Waves are not merchants, but it is merchants who will drive price to 500 dollars per token inorder to participate in a more developed and upgraded economy vis a vis 20th century.

There are only a few competitors in tokenization market, stellar, vechain. Good prospect for monopolization. BTC not direct competitor, not designed for this type of market.

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Patent study for M2 business patent application is now published in main topic accessible from signature link.

Seeking up to 40 000 USD business loan repayable over 10 years.

Minimum loan amount 2000 waves, max 40 000. 2000 is repaid over 10 months in fiat only, $200 per month. You can buy M2 tokens in main market and USDT will automatically transfer to your wallet every month. Stack cannot be resold in public market during loan activation. No refund.

Benefit for lender is risk free exposure to crypto sector because of loan format which means money back if price devaluation of waves, and up to x30 fiat profit if price increase.

Your cost for this insurance is lower growth multiple of invested capital (I will allocate your 40k in waves and repay up to 1 million USD if it goes to $100, if you had risked this amount, your hypotethical profit would be 4 million USD).

Other benefit is retainment of 190 million M2 token stack after loan repayment completion.

Third benefit is speculative but risk free exposure into Marquise $Museums investment portfolio of institutionally developed art with growth multiple of x15 000 over 40 years if adopted by international collectors as cultural object classification. I presented some arguments in favor of this possibility in main topic, mostly based on the patent but value can also be zero after 40 years, this is the nature of art speculation.

Forth benefit is participation in cryptobook minting when trading liquidity increases, terms set at later stage.

I carry 100% risk in this venture, subject to criminal liability if not adhering to contracted terms.

As you can see, Marquise $Museum KYC is recorded in Swedish government patent database.

Risk free investment.

Time limited because it is too generous.

I hoard 1500 waves every month, need for external capital diminishing every month.

I can only offer this loan when Waves is this low in price. If waves stabilizes at $10, a 40k stack means financial freedom for life, so I need this stack now, not at $10 come March.

Waves is best risk vs reward since Eth 2015, difference is now we now the secret of x200 capacity of crypto.

I dont have any more time to fuck around, money on the table. Only shot at freedom this decade.






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January 17, 2020, 08:29:16 AM
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maybe i am full retard, but also few global explanations

https://www.wavesplatform.com/ makes now Defi products only and determines transactions on his own

Dex has become waves.exchange and continues his previous activity with its own transactions (different)

the imbroglio of the three dollars goes on:
usd coinomat, usdn, usdt are traded separately with different prices, without clear perspectives

OK ?
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maybe i am full retard, but also few global explanations

https://www.wavesplatform.com/ makes now Defi products only and determines transactions on his own

Dex has become waves.exchange and continues his previous activity with its own transactions (different)

the imbroglio of the three dollars goes on:
usd coinomat, usdn, usdt are traded separately with different prices, without clear perspectives

OK ?

they are now offering various services under their Defi section. though, i haven't use any of them yet but i tried to check on liquid wave as i had account on waves client before, but seems it is not working for me. it goes back to waves.exchange landing page.
and with this migration from DEX to centralized, has the trading volume improved? because before, only few pairs are only active and most of the waves assets were already dying. will there be waves asset this time that will rise and be popular to the community?

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2019 Dapp Market Report featuring Waves as a DeFi-friendly blockchain
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maybe i am full retard, but also few global explanations

https://www.wavesplatform.com/ makes now Defi products only and determines transactions on his own

Dex has become waves.exchange and continues his previous activity with its own transactions (different)

the imbroglio of the three dollars goes on:
usd coinomat, usdn, usdt are traded separately with different prices, without clear perspectives

OK ?

they are now offering various services under their Defi section. though, i haven't use any of them yet but i tried to check on liquid wave as i had account on waves client before, but seems it is not working for me. it goes back to waves.exchange landing page.
and with this migration from DEX to centralized, has the trading volume improved? because before, only few pairs are only active and most of the waves assets were already dying. will there be waves asset this time that will rise and be popular to the community?
I wouldn't really expect any of Waves assets to be popular, Waves is losing it's popularity other blokchains are moving ahead of Waves. As for the trading volumes, I don't see any significant increase.
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maybe i am full retard, but also few global explanations

https://www.wavesplatform.com/ makes now Defi products only and determines transactions on his own

Dex has become waves.exchange and continues his previous activity with its own transactions (different)

the imbroglio of the three dollars goes on:
usd coinomat, usdn, usdt are traded separately with different prices, without clear perspectives

OK ?

they are now offering various services under their Defi section. though, i haven't use any of them yet but i tried to check on liquid wave as i had account on waves client before, but seems it is not working for me. it goes back to waves.exchange landing page.
and with this migration from DEX to centralized, has the trading volume improved? because before, only few pairs are only active and most of the waves assets were already dying. will there be waves asset this time that will rise and be popular to the community?
I wouldn't really expect any of Waves assets to be popular, Waves is losing it's popularity other blokchains are moving ahead of Waves. As for the trading volumes, I don't see any significant increase.
Even though the waves are as you said, but the waves are a popular coin but I also often use waves as my transaction tool because the fees are very low even though sometimes the deposit is a bit time consuming, the current altcoin situation is improving, I see it must also be waves will follow it, this is just my personal prediction


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maybe i am full retard, but also few global explanations

https://www.wavesplatform.com/ makes now Defi products only and determines transactions on his own

Dex has become waves.exchange and continues his previous activity with its own transactions (different)

the imbroglio of the three dollars goes on:
usd coinomat, usdn, usdt are traded separately with different prices, without clear perspectives

OK ?

they are now offering various services under their Defi section. though, i haven't use any of them yet but i tried to check on liquid wave as i had account on waves client before, but seems it is not working for me. it goes back to waves.exchange landing page.
and with this migration from DEX to centralized, has the trading volume improved? because before, only few pairs are only active and most of the waves assets were already dying. will there be waves asset this time that will rise and be popular to the community?
I wouldn't really expect any of Waves assets to be popular, Waves is losing it's popularity other blokchains are moving ahead of Waves. As for the trading volumes, I don't see any significant increase.
Even though the waves are as you said, but the waves are a popular coin but I also often use waves as my transaction tool because the fees are very low even though sometimes the deposit is a bit time consuming, the current altcoin situation is improving, I see it must also be waves will follow it, this is just my personal prediction

He is referring to waves assets that are created under waves platform.
Waves alone is popular but the assets themselves are not.
And most of them have little to no value on their DEX before.

So with the migration to centralized exchange, is waves asset still easy to create on their platform?
I migrated my old account to this new one, and I can say, it is easy as 123.

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