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I've called this 2 years ago on my facebook. There were no signs of any regulations back then. Smart money (banks, wall st) came into the scene and rek everyone. Hell, we could even be in a recession after this. So what are your options? Just simply hold. Get a job and forget about your assets. You shouldn't have risked more then you were willing to lose anyway. Money is a very sensitive topic for most, but if you can control your emotions, and simply hold without paying attention to your investments, you should be fine. We all know the markets are rigged and ran by bot algos. Just hold your positions fellas, you don't lose anything until you sell.
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I've called this 2 years ago on my facebook. There were no signs of any regulations back then. Smart money (banks, wall st) came into the scene and rek everyone. Hell, we could even be in a recession after this. So what are your options? Just simply hold. Get a job and forget about your assets. You shouldn't have risked more then you were willing to lose anyway. Money is a very sensitive topic for most, but if you can control your emotions, and simply hold without paying attention to your investments, you should be fine. We all know the markets are rigged and ran by bot algos. Just hold your positions fellas, you don't lose anything until you sell.

true..  Grin Now it all boils down to people who can stand the test of time. I think this is all a big cycle which will work out in the end for Bitcoin and the blockchain technology. The only thing that bothers me is when this might happen since I believe that the worst is yet to come.
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March 31, 2018, 09:46:50 AM
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first,the market is not designed to be predictable nobody can deny it.
logically speaking,if the market is designed to be predictable.everyone will be rich right ? because we know what will happen and what is going on with it.
we're seeing a lot of people crying about it because they're looking for a quick money,
i believe some of you get into it because you knew some of your friend made a lot of money by holding it for a weeks,
and you want to do that.
but they did not hear what other people saying,like this;
Do not play something that you can afford to lose

if they heard it,none of them would cry that loud.because he know something like this might be happen.
and that is why we need something called financial management.

and the only thing that we need to do is this :
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you don't lose anything until you sell
it is very simple,you will not lose it if you do not sell it.
that is it.

 
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I've called this 2 years ago on my facebook. There were no signs of any regulations back then. Smart money (banks, wall st) came into the scene and rek everyone. Hell, we could even be in a recession after this. So what are your options? Just simply hold. Get a job and forget about your assets. You shouldn't have risked more then you were willing to lose anyway. Money is a very sensitive topic for most, but if you can control your emotions, and simply hold without paying attention to your investments, you should be fine. We all know the markets are rigged and ran by bot algos. Just hold your positions fellas, you don't lose anything until you sell.
I like this but it is not the only reason why i gave some merits. After all this will help to somebody or anyone who had not decided because of what happens in the market as mnay are afraid to loss big amounts but they sell and buy when it goes up. Selling is not good and we should know that we don't need to sell until the market recovers.


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March 31, 2018, 10:13:27 AM
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Just hold your positions fellas, you don't lose anything until you sell.
I already imagine how some traders had opened positions with a leverage, holded them since 8k, removed stop losses in order not to lose because "you lose when you sell" and got all their deposit burned with a red fire fueled with leverage. I hope that anyont who read this topic will be smart enough not to follow most of the great advices from this forum. This must be another important rule for all newbies.
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April 01, 2018, 12:53:14 PM
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I've called this 2 years ago on my facebook. There were no signs of any regulations back then. Smart money (banks, wall st) came into the scene and rek everyone. Hell, we could even be in a recession after this. So what are your options? Just simply hold. Get a job and forget about your assets. You shouldn't have risked more then you were willing to lose anyway. Money is a very sensitive topic for most, but if you can control your emotions, and simply hold without paying attention to your investments, you should be fine. We all know the markets are rigged and ran by bot algos. Just hold your positions fellas, you don't lose anything until you sell.
I like this but it is not the only reason why i gave some merits. After all this will help to somebody or anyone who had not decided because of what happens in the market as mnay are afraid to loss big amounts but they sell and buy when it goes up. Selling is not good and we should know that we don't need to sell until the market recovers.

Thank you Saidmod, I appreciate it! BTW, what is your BTC address, I'd like to compensate you for the generous gesture.
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April 01, 2018, 02:49:44 PM
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I disagree with a lot of things that you said. first of all this is trading board so the discussions should be trading oriented not "HODL" mentality!

Smart money (banks, wall st) came into the scene and rek everyone.
when smart money comes it, nobody even knows it. that is why it is called "smart money" when things get out of hand that is when the others are rushing in long after that smart money!

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Hell, we could even be in a recession after this.
again, "smart money" comes back in when everyone else is experiencing depression and to put simply when you saw people say "bitcoin is dead".
... same way that smart money was getting out when you kept hearing people say "bitcoin to $50k".

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So what are your options? Just simply hold. Get a job and forget about your assets. You shouldn't have risked more then you were willing to lose anyway. Money is a very sensitive topic for most, but if you can control your emotions, and simply hold without paying attention to your investments, you should be fine.
although this is not trading related but I agree with this part. for those who are so panicky and confused about what they should do, the best option is to hold what they can afford to lose and forget about the short term trends.

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We all know the markets are rigged and ran by bot algos.
there is certainly manipulation in the market but to say it is rigged and run by bots is just silly!

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you don't lose anything until you sell.
not necessarily true.
first of all holding what? bitcoin, yeah of course since there is a very good chance that bitcoin will recover eventually since it still has the same big potential to rise to a lot more than current prices.
altcoins? definitely not. that may just be my opinion but I don't see any potential in any of them for long term.
secondly when? at the start of the drops when the bear market is just starting it is a good idea to sell (remember this is trading discussion). that means acting fast based on the trend you see coming and then you should also act fast to buy back what you sold when you see it reaching the end of the drop. in this case not selling is a big loss. and selling means a huge profit!
but at the same time if you act too late, like selling when price is already at the bottom then selling in that case means a big loss.

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April 01, 2018, 02:55:36 PM
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first,the market is not designed to be predictable nobody can deny it.
logically speaking,if the market is designed to be predictable.everyone will be rich right ? because we know what will happen and what is going on with it.
we're seeing a lot of people crying about it because they're looking for a quick money,
i believe some of you get into it because you knew some of your friend made a lot of money by holding it for a weeks,
and you want to do that.
but they did not hear what other people saying,like this;
Do not play something that you can afford to lose

if they heard it,none of them would cry that loud.because he know something like this might be happen.
and that is why we need something called financial management.

and the only thing that we need to do is this :
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you don't lose anything until you sell
it is very simple,you will not lose it if you do not sell it.
that is it.

First of all market only provides information about the currently situation of a product or in crypto. Market is only a market why did the OP think this way? It goes without saying. Market is not predictable in any manner it holds a mystery of gut feeling. The word "predicting"something comes from the fear of losing and sharing it to others to have an extra exposure in crytpo i guess.

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April 01, 2018, 02:56:10 PM
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I suggest you to take a look at the cartel theory.
It will open your mind a lot, trust me, and you will be very surprised that you are very right on this.

Anyway, i have always invested that money that i can afford to lose (no more than 30% of my entire capital) so i think that i am good with it.

I've called this 2 years ago on my facebook. There were no signs of any regulations back then. Smart money (banks, wall st) came into the scene and rek everyone. Hell, we could even be in a recession after this. So what are your options? Just simply hold. Get a job and forget about your assets. You shouldn't have risked more then you were willing to lose anyway. Money is a very sensitive topic for most, but if you can control your emotions, and simply hold without paying attention to your investments, you should be fine. We all know the markets are rigged and ran by bot algos. Just hold your positions fellas, you don't lose anything until you sell.

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April 01, 2018, 03:43:12 PM
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Crypto is lacking new money largelry. Hence, Market manipulators have started playing with the market. They show fake volumes to lure both bear & bulls and squeeze both of them out. All these pumps and dumps are well organized by bots with a set algos which makes them hard to predict. In such a time, it's better to either go long term investment or do futures trading. Market is indeed not made to be predictable since the marketcap is way too low and there isn't a long trading history to conclude anything out of it.


 
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April 01, 2018, 04:07:58 PM
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yes, actually for now the best thing to improve the bitcoin motion we have to keep holding it. we can imagine if every bitcoin holder for now can control the existing emotion to keep holding me feeling the bitcoin price movement will get better. the current situation is caused by some big players who just want to make their own profit.

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April 01, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
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strongly agree, today the market is very difficult to predict because people have changing properties so that the market always ups and downs prominently, but to avoid losing or if want to help to recover the market price we should continue to hold and never get easily panicked.

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April 01, 2018, 04:55:06 PM
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Yeah right Bro! I feel a lot of people pay so much attention to the market now than they do the future of what they hold. Sure, nothing is predictable but acting wisely by either being an investor and forgetting about anything happening or become a learned trader and join with the fluctuations for your benefit.

Whichever way, complaining should not be one of the words in any investor's dictionary. It is a market, some will always have an upper hand, and those are the whales, but they cannot keep making money if all they want to keep doing is draining the market completely. That totally make the holders win all the time except we end up having a dead market in our hands.
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It seems that you do not understand more about the market, so make arguments like this. Already said by forum residents on this above and you should rethink what they say, the market can not be designed to be predictable but speculation and history is needed to be legible but only 80% can not be read yeah.

 
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April 01, 2018, 05:13:08 PM
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I've called this 2 years ago on my facebook. There were no signs of any regulations back then. Smart money (banks, wall st) came into the scene and rek everyone. Hell, we could even be in a recession after this. So what are your options? Just simply hold. Get a job and forget about your assets. You shouldn't have risked more then you were willing to lose anyway. Money is a very sensitive topic for most, but if you can control your emotions, and simply hold without paying attention to your investments, you should be fine. We all know the markets are rigged and ran by bot algos. Just hold your positions fellas, you don't lose anything until you sell.

It is predictable with right data in hand and experts thinking about the whole stuff in smart way. Its not like that they make false assumption about the market but its about the uncertainty that comes in when their predictions turn out to be the worst one. That doesn't mean that the market is unpredictable at all. The markets values in specific range still can be predicted with in depth analysis of the graph and demand-supply equation. We have many data points such as mining operations, blocks, circulating supply, difficulty to mine and much more along with the time as dimension for diluting everything. That can make up the prediction fairly well but not the precise one.
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April 01, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
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It isn’t,, it’s speculative in nature.. Those claiming to be expert are mostly fortune tellers who have the idea,, the data,, but has biases and self interest.. They don’t do those analytics for nothing or for no one.. I do the same I can’t deny that and we all do it for reason..

I do invest and HODL for a long period of time until the right and comfortable price to sell.. No monitoring of price and let alone store in a safety wallet.. This is the only way we would create a barrier in our investment vs the negative emotions from a daily basis..

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April 01, 2018, 06:15:35 PM
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It isn’t,, it’s speculative in nature.. Those claiming to be expert are mostly fortune tellers who have the idea,, the data,, but has biases and self interest.. They don’t do those analytics for nothing or for no one.. I do the same I can’t deny that and we all do it for reason..

I do invest and HODL for a long period of time until the right and comfortable price to sell.. No monitoring of price and let alone store in a safety wallet.. This is the only way we would create a barrier in our investment vs the negative emotions from a daily basis..
Well, we are all fortune tellers here, claiming that bitcoin price could repeat history wishing and hoping for that fact so that we can have something that will really make us all gain and will be able to help our family with our needs, it is okay to see the market just don't rely most of your decisions as it is unstable from time to time.
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April 01, 2018, 06:48:54 PM
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There are no brakes like with regular money, so it's much easier to manipulate and once it starts to fall then it falls for good.
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April 01, 2018, 07:03:39 PM
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It seems that you do not understand more about the market, so make arguments like this. Already said by forum residents on this above and you should rethink what they say, the market can not be designed to be predictable but speculation and history is needed to be legible but only 80% can not be read yeah.

Even satoshi's speculation also may not work here in this crypto market. There are people really making  decision to bump and dump the cheap cryptos with the signal group for somewhile but that will not be long time survive for sure.
Since all we know the crypto currencies are volatile in nature we do not have the idea like someone designed the crypto market or something.
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April 02, 2018, 11:37:36 AM
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first,the market is not designed to be predictable nobody can deny it.
logically speaking,if the market is designed to be predictable.everyone will be rich right ? because we know what will happen and what is going on with it.
we're seeing a lot of people crying about it because they're looking for a quick money,
i believe some of you get into it because you knew some of your friend made a lot of money by holding it for a weeks,
and you want to do that.

I agree with you. Market can’t be predictable, cause in that case everyone would be a rich man. Nevertheless, there are some events, which effect on the course we can guess in advance, at least approximately.

 
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