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https://picload.org/view/dapcllgl/whatsappimage2018-04-04at19.22.jpg.html

Wow didnt expect that you use the same name ...

The next time you want to scam something down do it a little bit better.



So guys hopefully you will see that apollo is no scam!
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I have received an answer(s) to various questions asked about the Apollo currency, and these were answered via Telegram.

ICO/CDE

As stated by the Apollo team the Apollo cryptocurrency is NOT an ICO but rather a Coin Distribution Event (CDE).
So let’s look at a definition for an ICO. As stated by Wikipedia it is a means of crowdfunding centered around cryptocurrency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_coin_offering), and correct me if I am wrong – isn’t Apollo crowdfunding, therefore it is an ICO? It does not matter what the funds are for, crowdfunding is just that: raising capital, it also doesn’t matter if you have already previously raised capital.  

Let’s take this a step further and investigate what the local authority (legally) might suggest the outlook would be before discussing the Apollo teams response.

From my understanding and being told by the team, Apollo is based in the US, Texas. On the website an address is supplied for their Customer Support giving a Texas address: 4001 S. Shary Rd Suite 300, Mission, TX 78572. The jurisdiction is Texas, US so let’s review some recent history in this area with crypto.

The Texas Securities Commissioner would only be interested if the crowdfunding was deemed a security. A non official description of a security would be an individual expecting a return (ROI) from an initial investment such as a cryptocurrency received for fiat. This is not just limited to swapping fiat for ownership in a company (ie shares), which is deemed a security, but covers a wide range of aspects. Let me inspect these aspects in regards to crypto.

Bitconnect as we all know is currently one of the largest fraud investments in the crypto world.  It had many failings and the Texas Securities Commissioner specifically pointed out how Bitconnect was a security. I will only cover those points that are similar to Apollo.

Bitconnect did not state what the crowdfunding was for and was one of the reasons to be classed as suspicious, however, Apollo does inform us. The point here is it does not matter what you do or don’t state the funds are for, capital raising is just that, raising capital.
Changing the definition to a CDE is still raising capital and subject to local jurisdiction laws. It is not what the capital is raised for but the act of raising capital. To reiterate the point- if you have already raised initial capital for a project and you raise more funds this does not change the definition to a CDE in the eyes of the SEC.  Let’s look at some historical events that made a cryptocurrency a security.

The Order from the Commissioner alleged Bitconnect marketed tokens through an ICO to the general public in the US using “affiliates” for promotion. In exchange the “affiliates” were credited for each token sale through their efforts, a reward varying from 2-5%. This was done via “referral links”. Does this sound familiar? This is classified as income received for work rendered and to the Commissioner it makes it a security (https://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2017/33-10445.pdf,  https://www.ssb.texas.gov/news-publications/4-billion-crypto-promoter-ordered-halt-fraudulent-sales, https://www.sec.gov/litigation/investreport/34-81207.pdf)

Another similar attribute that the Commissioner outlines is Bitconnect had a platform Staking program where users held their coins in their QT-wallet. This is Proof of Stake (POS) minting where investors passively receive income by holding the coin in the wallet making a profit. This is deemed an investment and thus a security as the Commissioner points out. Via Telegram the Apollo team advices me that Apollo is Proof of Stake (POS) offering a Leasing system, or as the team states “forging” generating an income from transactions fees. This is also mentioned in the whitepaper located on the Apollo website.

My interpretation from published material based on this historical event unfortunately leads me to believe that Apollocurrency will also be seen as a security.

Just on a side note, the Securities Commissioner on the 20 Dec 2017 entered an emergency Cease and Desist Order against USI-Tech Limited based in Dubai selling investments tied to bitcoin mining (https://www.ssb.texas.gov/news-publications/4-billion-crypto-promoter-ordered-halt-fraudulent-sales). This was classified as a security due to earning BTC through POW with the Bitcoin network. POW is used to secure the BTC network as POS is to secure the Apollocurrency. There is no differentiation between making income from POS or POW, only the fact it is a passive income making it a security. It was not just Bitconnect that was issued a Cease and Desist order for generating a passive income but paves the way for all future cases to be marked as a security in this jurisdiction.

Now we have looked at what the Security Commissioner says a security is lets look at the team’s response to what the difference is between a CDE and ICO.

Apollo’s version of an ICO/CDE

I quote from Telegram via the Team; “the key difference with a CDE we are a non profit meaning that all proceeds from the CDE will be used to build value in Apollo, marketing being new upgrades etc”. I further pressed how they see the difference between what they see an ICO is and a CDE.

“A CDE is a coin distribution event, where we are not seeking funding from the public in exchange for securities in order to build something in the case of crypto they will put out a white paper based on the potential technologies they want to spend the money to build. In return for your money they will attempt to build this tech, in most cases these are never followed through. We have already got our own funding to build the tech and the tech has been built, we are just distributing the coins now so that as many people as possible can have it, it’s a mechanism for distribution”.

I understand they don’t want to seek money for a security but based upon why Bitconnect and USI-Tech Limited was issued a Cease and Desist Order I believe otherwise. If it were only a mechanism for distribution then only an airdrop would be necessary.
The Apollo team responded “we cannot exclusively only distribute through airdrops, where would the value be in the coin if we have it all for free? The CDE is there because all the funds will be used to build value and operational costs and more technical upgrades so that this coin would always be ahead of the competition”. My response was supply and demand dictates value.

If funds are to be used to build value and operation costs then how can this be non-profit? By taking a fiat to add value with advancing future projects that increases value to Apollocurrency isn’t profit taking then, what is? It is certainly not non profit otherwise no-one would swap fiat for Apollocurrency. No-one is donating to a charity. Am I wrong?

The fall out from being a security is you must register with the SEC and anywhere Apollocurrency is found, that is to say the Exchanges Apollo is listed on must abide by KYC laws, if not it will be delisted.

Apollo’s argument is because they are non-profit they are exempt to being a security. This brings me to my next question.

(Just a side-note, Bitconnect was registered in England not the US and look how the domino’s fell….).

Non-Profit Foundation

My next question was why I could not find this project in the database for Non-Profit Foundations in the US? The answer was because they have not applied. I also mentioned that there is no pending paperwork to do so and was told that this was correct as they have only been operation for 5 weeks (as at 9 June 2018).  

I do not wish to even indulge with the time frame stated but in order for a massive project like this to work and to code all the wallets, website, writing the whitepaper and gathering the team they have certainly been going for more than 5 weeks.

My gripe here is they are being promoted as a Non-profit Foundation when in fact by the team’s admission they have not submitted any paperwork or even registered.  To me this is deceiving and using a Non-Profit Foundation as a way to circumvent being a security is plainly incorrect. You can see here (https://youtu.be/7iXMbUvC_2o) on this promotion for Apollo on YouTube that the Apollo team again uses this as a reason for it not to be a security.

A non profit organization is a charity that donates funds to support other organizations or to fund itself for charitable purposes. It is not to fund future projects or technologies to further the Apollocurrency or the associated platform(s) as they have stated. Even if the technology is already designed the fact remains the funds are used to further the project.

The Team

I have investigated various team members, even using Google Image Reverse Search, reviewing their Facebook profiles etc and the team seem to be real people. This is encouraging as so many projects are anonymous. The CEO for Apollo is Viktor Komovalov (https://www.linkedin.com/in/konovalovxclv/) who is in the Ukraine. I don’t know what he is the CEO of since Apollo isn’t a corporation or non-profit organization but I will leave that up to you to decide. What is good to see is a personal Facebook link showing personal pictures etc of different members making them easier to track down. It would not make sense if this were a scam to have links to these accounts.

Conclusion

Personally I do not believe this is a scam, however I do believe with past historical Cease and Desist Order’s issued, Apollocurrency may also be seen as a security. Claiming to be non-profit and not even being registered does not circumvent around what a security is and in my opinion deceitful to the general public.

What they do have going for them is a real team but I will stand corrected if any evidence is presented to the contrary. I have not spent a huge amount of time investigating the team but from my limited research they seem to check out.  

My purpose here was not for spreading FUD but concern for the definition of a security and to encourage a discussion and clarification on this topic.

I have been involved in crypto for many years and what I have seen is Coders/Developers trying to run a business model or to bend rules to make ends meet. This simply does not work. Claiming to be non-profit to be not classed as a security doesn’t seem to fit recent past rulings.

It is good to see a mix of legal and PR people being part of the team but it does concern me certain aspects may have been over looked. I do admit the team member(s) I received my information from are not part of their claimed legal team, thus incorrect information may have been relayed to me but I do invite a response from the Apollo team.

If I have misunderstood any information in what the Securities Commissioner deems as a security is in regards to crypto I invite anyone’s response to correct me.

If this project takes off I do believe it will be a top contender but remember my argument isn’t that it’s a scam but rather misappropriation of information for circumvention purposes.  
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Hi Crypto-Info, I have to say that I’ve read your message with very much interest. I have passed it to the Apollo Executive Team and asked them for an answer/point of view. This is what I’ve received from them:

“We raised money from private investors as well as had the financial backing of our strategic partners. We had originally considered distributing via airdrop only but ended up deciding it would undervalue Apollo as a currency. We had enough funds available to complete the minimum stated timeline before we started the coin distribution event. We did not start the CDE as a fundraiser or crowdfunding campaign and its success will not determine the outcome of our end product. Regardless, we will work to complete Apollo in its entirety.”

Regarding the CDE / ICO question this is the answer that I have received from the Apollo Executive Team:

“No one from the Apollo team would have been qualified to answer the questions that were brought up to them. Most likely these were answered by Telegram Admins that had not been trained on the legalities.
Furthermore, we are set up as a non-profit corporation and have applied as a 501c3 tax exempt corporation but have not received a final verdict on acceptance of tax exempt status. Regardless, we are a legal structure set up as a non-profit corporation. The person that said we had not applied obviously did not have the knowledge or authority to do so.”

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If there are any further questions regarding the legal structure of the Apollo Foundation please forward these to PR@apollocurrency.com
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Your mother got scammed before getting you !!!!! Kiss ours golden assets 💣
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wallet wont sync?
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Remove your stupid post or we can do a class action against youre infamous stupidity !!!!!
Specially if you're unable to send the right amount of coins to buying ! (Looser)
Actually I'm really glad to haven't you seated on our starship 👊
#MindShadowItsScam🚾🚾🚾
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Remove your stupid post or we can do a class action against youre infamous stupidity !!!!!
Specially if you're unable to send the right amount of coins to buying ! (Looser)
Actually I'm really glad to haven't you seated on our starship 👊
#MindShadowItsScam🚾🚾🚾

Not entirely sure that is how that works, but this is entertaining to watch at the very least.
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yes its a scam i lost 500 usd in it  Cry Cry Cry
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I have received an answer(s) to various questions asked about the Apollo currency, and these were answered via Telegram.

ICO/CDE

As stated by the Apollo team the Apollo cryptocurrency is NOT an ICO but rather a Coin Distribution Event (CDE).
So let’s look at a definition for an ICO. As stated by Wikipedia it is a means of crowdfunding centered around cryptocurrency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_coin_offering), and correct me if I am wrong – isn’t Apollo crowdfunding, therefore it is an ICO? It does not matter what the funds are for, crowdfunding is just that: raising capital, it also doesn’t matter if you have already previously raised capital.  

Let’s take this a step further and investigate what the local authority (legally) might suggest the outlook would be before discussing the Apollo teams response.

From my understanding and being told by the team, Apollo is based in the US, Texas. On the website an address is supplied for their Customer Support giving a Texas address: 4001 S. Shary Rd Suite 300, Mission, TX 78572. The jurisdiction is Texas, US so let’s review some recent history in this area with crypto.

The Texas Securities Commissioner would only be interested if the crowdfunding was deemed a security. A non official description of a security would be an individual expecting a return (ROI) from an initial investment such as a cryptocurrency received for fiat. This is not just limited to swapping fiat for ownership in a company (ie shares), which is deemed a security, but covers a wide range of aspects. Let me inspect these aspects in regards to crypto.

Bitconnect as we all know is currently one of the largest fraud investments in the crypto world.  It had many failings and the Texas Securities Commissioner specifically pointed out how Bitconnect was a security. I will only cover those points that are similar to Apollo.

Bitconnect did not state what the crowdfunding was for and was one of the reasons to be classed as suspicious, however, Apollo does inform us. The point here is it does not matter what you do or don’t state the funds are for, capital raising is just that, raising capital.
Changing the definition to a CDE is still raising capital and subject to local jurisdiction laws. It is not what the capital is raised for but the act of raising capital. To reiterate the point- if you have already raised initial capital for a project and you raise more funds this does not change the definition to a CDE in the eyes of the SEC.  Let’s look at some historical events that made a cryptocurrency a security.

The Order from the Commissioner alleged Bitconnect marketed tokens through an ICO to the general public in the US using “affiliates” for promotion. In exchange the “affiliates” were credited for each token sale through their efforts, a reward varying from 2-5%. This was done via “referral links”. Does this sound familiar? This is classified as income received for work rendered and to the Commissioner it makes it a security (https://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2017/33-10445.pdf,  https://www.ssb.texas.gov/news-publications/4-billion-crypto-promoter-ordered-halt-fraudulent-sales, https://www.sec.gov/litigation/investreport/34-81207.pdf)

Another similar attribute that the Commissioner outlines is Bitconnect had a platform Staking program where users held their coins in their QT-wallet. This is Proof of Stake (POS) minting where investors passively receive income by holding the coin in the wallet making a profit. This is deemed an investment and thus a security as the Commissioner points out. Via Telegram the Apollo team advices me that Apollo is Proof of Stake (POS) offering a Leasing system, or as the team states “forging” generating an income from transactions fees. This is also mentioned in the whitepaper located on the Apollo website.

My interpretation from published material based on this historical event unfortunately leads me to believe that Apollocurrency will also be seen as a security.

Just on a side note, the Securities Commissioner on the 20 Dec 2017 entered an emergency Cease and Desist Order against USI-Tech Limited based in Dubai selling investments tied to bitcoin mining (https://www.ssb.texas.gov/news-publications/4-billion-crypto-promoter-ordered-halt-fraudulent-sales). This was classified as a security due to earning BTC through POW with the Bitcoin network. POW is used to secure the BTC network as POS is to secure the Apollocurrency. There is no differentiation between making income from POS or POW, only the fact it is a passive income making it a security. It was not just Bitconnect that was issued a Cease and Desist order for generating a passive income but paves the way for all future cases to be marked as a security in this jurisdiction.

Now we have looked at what the Security Commissioner says a security is lets look at the team’s response to what the difference is between a CDE and ICO.

Apollo’s version of an ICO/CDE

I quote from Telegram via the Team; “the key difference with a CDE we are a non profit meaning that all proceeds from the CDE will be used to build value in Apollo, marketing being new upgrades etc”. I further pressed how they see the difference between what they see an ICO is and a CDE.

“A CDE is a coin distribution event, where we are not seeking funding from the public in exchange for securities in order to build something in the case of crypto they will put out a white paper based on the potential technologies they want to spend the money to build. In return for your money they will attempt to build this tech, in most cases these are never followed through. We have already got our own funding to build the tech and the tech has been built, we are just distributing the coins now so that as many people as possible can have it, it’s a mechanism for distribution”.

I understand they don’t want to seek money for a security but based upon why Bitconnect and USI-Tech Limited was issued a Cease and Desist Order I believe otherwise. If it were only a mechanism for distribution then only an airdrop would be necessary.
The Apollo team responded “we cannot exclusively only distribute through airdrops, where would the value be in the coin if we have it all for free? The CDE is there because all the funds will be used to build value and operational costs and more technical upgrades so that this coin would always be ahead of the competition”. My response was supply and demand dictates value.

If funds are to be used to build value and operation costs then how can this be non-profit? By taking a fiat to add value with advancing future projects that increases value to Apollocurrency isn’t profit taking then, what is? It is certainly not non profit otherwise no-one would swap fiat for Apollocurrency. No-one is donating to a charity. Am I wrong?

The fall out from being a security is you must register with the SEC and anywhere Apollocurrency is found, that is to say the Exchanges Apollo is listed on must abide by KYC laws, if not it will be delisted.

Apollo’s argument is because they are non-profit they are exempt to being a security. This brings me to my next question.

(Just a side-note, Bitconnect was registered in England not the US and look how the domino’s fell….).

Non-Profit Foundation

My next question was why I could not find this project in the database for Non-Profit Foundations in the US? The answer was because they have not applied. I also mentioned that there is no pending paperwork to do so and was told that this was correct as they have only been operation for 5 weeks (as at 9 June 2018).  

I do not wish to even indulge with the time frame stated but in order for a massive project like this to work and to code all the wallets, website, writing the whitepaper and gathering the team they have certainly been going for more than 5 weeks.

My gripe here is they are being promoted as a Non-profit Foundation when in fact by the team’s admission they have not submitted any paperwork or even registered.  To me this is deceiving and using a Non-Profit Foundation as a way to circumvent being a security is plainly incorrect. You can see here (https://youtu.be/7iXMbUvC_2o) on this promotion for Apollo on YouTube that the Apollo team again uses this as a reason for it not to be a security.

A non profit organization is a charity that donates funds to support other organizations or to fund itself for charitable purposes. It is not to fund future projects or technologies to further the Apollocurrency or the associated platform(s) as they have stated. Even if the technology is already designed the fact remains the funds are used to further the project.

The Team

I have investigated various team members, even using Google Image Reverse Search, reviewing their Facebook profiles etc and the team seem to be real people. This is encouraging as so many projects are anonymous. The CEO for Apollo is Viktor Komovalov (https://www.linkedin.com/in/konovalovxclv/) who is in the Ukraine. I don’t know what he is the CEO of since Apollo isn’t a corporation or non-profit organization but I will leave that up to you to decide. What is good to see is a personal Facebook link showing personal pictures etc of different members making them easier to track down. It would not make sense if this were a scam to have links to these accounts.

Conclusion

Personally I do not believe this is a scam, however I do believe with past historical Cease and Desist Order’s issued, Apollocurrency may also be seen as a security. Claiming to be non-profit and not even being registered does not circumvent around what a security is and in my opinion deceitful to the general public.

What they do have going for them is a real team but I will stand corrected if any evidence is presented to the contrary. I have not spent a huge amount of time investigating the team but from my limited research they seem to check out.  

My purpose here was not for spreading FUD but concern for the definition of a security and to encourage a discussion and clarification on this topic.

I have been involved in crypto for many years and what I have seen is Coders/Developers trying to run a business model or to bend rules to make ends meet. This simply does not work. Claiming to be non-profit to be not classed as a security doesn’t seem to fit recent past rulings.

It is good to see a mix of legal and PR people being part of the team but it does concern me certain aspects may have been over looked. I do admit the team member(s) I received my information from are not part of their claimed legal team, thus incorrect information may have been relayed to me but I do invite a response from the Apollo team.

If I have misunderstood any information in what the Securities Commissioner deems as a security is in regards to crypto I invite anyone’s response to correct me.

If this project takes off I do believe it will be a top contender but remember my argument isn’t that it’s a scam but rather misappropriation of information for circumvention purposes.  


Now go check out ApolloCurrency Again




Hi Sirlibz,

I’m not sure exactly what your statement means “Now go check out ApolloCurrency Again”. Are you refuting some of my comments, because you offer no proof.

I am assuming your point is because APL price (against BTC) is higher than the ICO price it is then it’s not a scam? LOL…may be I misunderstood?

If you are saying because the price or APL is 100+% from the ICO it’s not a scam then I have one word for you. BITCONNECT.

Bitconnect (BCC) out performed what Apollocurrency’s price (as to date) before people realised BCC was a scam, so your point would be invalid.

Did you read my points?


On May 10, 2018 I posted “From my understanding and being told by the team, Apollo is based in the US, Texas. On the website an address is supplied for their Customer Support giving a Texas address: 4001 S. Shary Rd Suite 300, Mission, TX 78572. The jurisdiction is Texas, US…

Because of recent rulings in that district (proof in original post) I didn’t believe they could legally operate out of Texas. I also stated that there was no paperwork submitted for their Non-Profit Foundation.

It turned out they actually never applied to be a Non-Profit, with their admittance, then a few months later they move their HQ to Malta away from Texas. It looks like there was some legal issues and I may have been correct.  

What most people still don’t understand is that anyone living in Texas that trades APL or stakes it (and using referral links for income) is probably doing so illegally and can be prosecuted if they don’t make it official and pay taxes etc, as any income should be reported. You can read the proof in my original post about past prosecutions. Just keep in mind this is not just limited to crypto.

Obviously other countries and states have their own laws people must abide to.

What I would be concerned about is the rules around being registered in Malta. If you don’t already know in Malta as at the 1 November 2019 any company dealing in crypto requires a license to operate.

As of the 1st November, prospective licensees and issuers will officially start operating under the new Virtual Financial Assets Act. Until then, VFA Service Providers (including cryptocurrency exchanges, as well as issuers of ICOs may commence offering their services in an unregulated manner which does not constitute a breach of law. VFA service providers will subsequently have a year from this date to comply with the laws and applicable regulations as issued by the MFSA”.

https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/75383/malta-blockchain-acts-to-come-into-force-on-1-november/retail

From Nov 2019 this law is reinforced, however Apollo should have applied already, did anyone check? Did you? Are they still saying they are non-profit?

If any knows these answers please post here, especially if they have applied for the license under the VFA in Malta so they legally operate.

Also a CDE (coin distribution event) is an ICO. Raising funds is just that, raising funds. What you raise the funds for doesn’t change the fact that money was raised in the eyes of the law.

Upon reflection of my initial post I have noted that I did state “Personally I do not believe this is a scam..” you may have missed this.

What I’m currently alarmed at is the past information coming out about Apollo team since my 1st post.

I’m referring to the post from the NXT developers saying only a few lines of code were altered to reduce the blocktime (APL is a clone of NXT and has shorter blocktimes), and they also suggested it was more insecure. I guess the NXT developers would know this wouldn’t they, since it’s their code. It is obvious that multiple people reviewed it with the same conclusion- not much code was changed.  Thats a big burn there.

To further the insult Apollo Currency failed to comply in full the applicable Jelurida Public License (JPL), something required when using the NXT blockchain Jelurida. This was on the June 11, 2018 and in Aug copyright violation was corrected.

https://www.jelurida.com/jelurida-apollo-public-statement

Very concerning that the foundation the Apollo coin is based on was hanging on a thread. A further three cease and desist letters were issued during this period without resolution. It is alarming to me that it wasn’t considered by the team to DO SOMETHING about abiding with Jelurida Public License terms, before collecting public funds or prioritising other goals.

There is data on the founders pumping the coin making it another P&D shit coin.

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/01/21/apollo-apl-scam/


you can google the rest.
 
Then there was the debacle with Steve McCullah past with KickStarter - although Steve’s version of events are plausible.

Then what about my posts that Apollo deleted from their forum and my unanswered e-mails from them? There is no transparency.

Can you truly say there is transparency? I never said Apollo couldn’t go up in price but instead i asked direct questions that still no-one answered. The same questions in my 1st post. It’s ok though because as time plays out the cards will fall where they fall and so far it looks like I have been correct.

Thank-you for bring Apollo back to my attention. Maybe I was possibly the first person to hint that Apollo’s team didn’t seem to know what they were doing business wise, or you could say I was hinting at a possible scam…

I did foresee the issue of their HQ being in Texas, US before the Apollo team did. Since then Apollo team moved to Malta (I was right) they were forced to comply with the Jelurida Public License terms after four cease and desist letters, no transparency….deleting posts of genuine questions about the coin (comments were not attacking Apollo)….no e-mail returns….NXT Dev's code review for Apollocoin is damning....am I painting a picture for you…..

All I know is I called it on May 10, 2018. Unfortunately I did state at the time that it didn’t look like a scam as I hadn’t investigated the Apollo team at that point. If I did I would have been more negative. Now I just think it’s a few people trying to make some $$ at noobs expense (could be a Bitconnect want-a-be) so I haven’t changed my mind about it yet, but points to a scam. I own no Apollocoin, never have.

Everything points to smokes and mirrors so i would step carefully - no transparency.


 
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APOLLO:GSX COIN


It still doesn't look good for Apollo. I have written about regulation inconsistencies with Apollo since mid 2018 . aplfintech.com is an attempt of a rebrand to attract more victims.

It takes 5mins to look into this GSX coin before confidence wavers and then begins to plummet. Let’s review the Marume Resources t/a Virtuous Environment Apollo Fintech Technical Report for May 2020.

Search criterion: Image reverse search and cellphone number.




(https://aplfintech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/apollo-fintech-technical-report-2.0.pdf)



This is Munyaradzi Otis Marume.


You may know him as Dr Otis…or the Consultant.



https://www.instagram.com/dr_otis/




or Forms Land



https://twitter.com/itsforms


What is this about Super Life STC30? Absolutely no controversy with this project he is pushing, right? Still feeling confident in your GSX investment now?


https://www.linkedin.com/in/munyaradzi-otis-marume-248a8333/


Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Munyaradzi Otis Marume is a scammer so don’t go hating him. Rather I’m asking the question, how confident do you feel with apollo-fintech claiming a multi-million deal with the Commercial Bank in Zimbabwe (CBZ) based on a mining report by an IT consultant who is heavily involved in a controversial multi-marketing product?

Then a quick review of the Virtuous Environment Apollo Fintech Technical Report references reveals what?

This report was written in 2018 - M. Marume (2018) (Unpublished) Preliminary report on the Geological evalualation (sic) of the Kazangarare Gemstone Belt, Magunje Communal Lands, Karoi, Zimbabwe. This report was written before this whole thing was fabricated, during a time Apollo Fintech didn’t exist and during their regulatory mishaps and copyright infringements. Hows your confidence now in GSX?
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Jelurida (JLD) Wins Court Case Against Apollo

On Sept. 22, a Dutch court ruled against Apollo for cloning over 75% of its code from Jelurida’s Nxt (NXT) blockchain software. Apollo breach these conditions by adding their proprietary license over JLD's license in Oct. 2019..."Apollo [has] to fulfil its obligations under the JPL in respect of Jelurida, immediately after this judgment has been served, in full and unconditionally, within the territory of the Netherlands".

Apollo must disclose information pertaining to the distributed Apollo Software, such as sales prices, profit calculations, and names of all people involved. Apollo must also pay the legal costs of Jelurida of €38,780.73. After this case Apollo has voluntarily dropped the lawsuit against JLD in the US (Texas).

Court papers found here:
 
https://www.jelurida.com/sites/default/files/Jelurida%20v%20Apollo%20-%20Judgement.2020-09-22.pdf




https://newscolony.com/court-finds-blockchain-firm-guilty-of-license-violation-but-ceo-vows-to-fight-back/
https://www.jelurida.com/news/court-finds-apollo-liable-for-license-violation-copyright-infringement
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Jelurida (JLD) Wins Court Case Against Apollo

On Sept. 22, a Dutch court ruled against Apollo for cloning over 75% of its code from Jelurida’s Nxt (NXT) blockchain software. Apollo breach these conditions by adding their proprietary license over JLD's license in Oct. 2019..."Apollo [has] to fulfil its obligations under the JPL in respect of Jelurida, immediately after this judgment has been served, in full and unconditionally, within the territory of the Netherlands".

Apollo must disclose information pertaining to the distributed Apollo Software, such as sales prices, profit calculations, and names of all people involved. Apollo must also pay the legal costs of Jelurida of €38,780.73. After this case Apollo has voluntarily dropped the lawsuit against JLD in the US (Texas).

Looking at the Apollo chart, it took the course of every project ever endorsed by McAfee...



I mean the guy's in jail now so its kind of a moot point to kick him while he's down. But obviously McAfee's presence is a perfect reverse barometer for judging the long-term strength of a project. I've known that for a couple years but its astounding how absolutely every project he ever put his name to either

a. flat out flopped
b. was a scam.

CCN even had to issue an apology to Apollo and McAfee for running an early story about how Apollo was cloned from NXT... seems like they were right the entire time.

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To me everything you write here is not new.
Apollo and Stefan is the biggest fraud/scammer.
Fuck him and his crypto firm.
Actually I should say, he should go and fuck himself
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Steven Mccullah


Steve back in 2018 Claimed to have two bachelors degrees in premed studies from Lamar University and a bachelor from Drury University as shown in his Linkedin account June 2018 (https://youtu.be/KDrQUI9qKqQ (starts @ 5min 25sec).

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccullah/

He was called out over this and quickly changed his account and denied everything. Here is Steven Mccullah attempting to explain why he lied about his credentials. A extremely poor rebuttal from Steve. Just embarrassing, all he says is “look everyone heres my Linkedin and I deleted the words bachelor to prove I’m right”. LOL  -  https://youtu.be/KDrQUI9qKqQ (starts @ 7min).

While we are on the topic of his credentials lets have a closer look at the companies he listed.

Chief Executive Officer for Tsavari for Sep 2012 - Sep 2016. Company Number:LC001415620
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_mo/LC001415620

Company was active between Aug 2014 and Aug 2016. Steve again has his information wrong or lied, whatever you decide. Please note the Business Classification is Retail Sales.

I would hate to think that Steve Mccullah thought he worked at Tsavari.co, a South African mining company involved with alluvial gold. It would be deceptive to think he would insinuate or suggests that he worked here.


Here is the Gold Company Tsavari in South Africa:






Here is Steve Mccullah Tsavari business in retail:




Hey look same logo and Name! Scammer Steve strikes again. Very scammy to use another business logo in the same industry  you are trying to do business in Steve! . Sort of Conflict of Interest..or just a SCAM? Oh wait is https://www.tsavari.co actually even real? Its an unfinished website that also offers guidance coaching. LOL  RED FLAGS


CCMM INC


A quick review ofCCMM INC on Steves Linkedin:

The logo matches with the website: https://www.ccmmusa.com with their https://www.linkedin.com/company/ccmm-inc/about/ profile. The business was established in 1985 (https://opencorporates.com/events/480431879).

In July 2016 a name change was made from COLLAR CRAFT AND PETITE ORIGINALS, INC.' to 'CCMM, Inc.' and at the same time Steven Mccullah took the position Vice President.



Here is a picture from Linkedin of the current owner of CCMU (2021):








Everything seems to look ok, it looks like a family business with different family members taking various company positions.

We have Brandon, Betty Jacob, James and Robert and Steven Mccullah all involved. Seems legit.


Kick Starter

I have already brought this up before. In 2012 he raised money for an expedition to Congo. Long story short the money disappeared and the investors are still trying to get their money back.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/817864170/new-species-expedition-to-congo/comments?cursor=11233633#comment-11233632

“The project’s CTO, the Ukrainian Sergey Rokhvarg, is of even more interest. He’s the public face and director of the Ukrainian company Universal Information Technology (UIT), which corrupt high‐ranking Ukrainian officials use to launder funds from the state budget and Ukrainian state corporations”. Link below provides further info.

https://ffc.media/news/пocлyжнoй-cпиcoк-кoмaнды-apollo-currency/


Conclusion

In conclusion Seven Mccullah lied on his profile having two bachelor degrees and removed it from his  profile. He could not explain why he lied.

To add more RED FLAGS the logo used in his Tsavari retail business is the same logo as a Gold mining company in South Africa.  

The kickstarter missing money definitely does not look good for Steve nor does the connection with Sergey Rokhvarg.

You can make from this what you will.
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Thanks for reading!


I have some addition info to help people connect some more dots.



https://contactout.com/Stephen-McCullah-33668568


We have Steven connected to the fake company/website Tsavari. The website claims to be a South African Mining company. It is fake. The rest of the webpages lead to weird unrelated data and is unfinished.

Steven company Tsavari is in retail,  pretending to be involved in mining. lol

The we have Steven linked to Deluz Diamonds LLC (https://opencorporates.com/officers/179417020), and as seen in the above image.


This lead me to evanscollars.com:






Does this sound familiar???

“Evans Collars has since expanded into different markets with it’s sister companies including: tourniquets, medical bags, military equipment, law enforcement gear, tactical accessories, as well as custom projects for many different clients such as Wal-Mart, Dollar General, US Military, etc…”

His link with the company CCMMUSA.com is a sister company, kept within the family and has a similar description as above…”CCMM inc. specializes in class 1 medical manufacturing. Since 1985 CCMM has been manufacturing in the heart of the USA. We have produced a wide variety of products for pets, law enforcement, emergency medical personnel, military and hunters. Some of our clients include Walmart, Harrods, Dollar General and TJ Maxx. We have designed products for
NYPD, LAPD, Homeland Security, the U.S Military and our allies.”

Then, as we can still see in the first image, Steven McCullah has bachelor degrees @ Dury and @ University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law. But of course as we know, Steven LIED.

Then we have Deluz Diamonds LLC…more on precious metals…what can I say? Random posts all over the net.

Then we have him as a owner of Diamond Trading Company in West and central Africa. Is anyone connecting the dots here? Precious metals in AFRICA!

Steven uses company names that are similar to REAL COMPANIES in the same industry or create fake web pages/links hoping people won’t investigate further.

If you review Steven on https://opencorporates.com/officers?q=McCullah%2C+Stephen you will find him also linked with Skylark Inc. This company was with Kyle Hornback (Yes he is with Apollo) and that was the company setup for the Gold Mining Game that lets you mine real gold?Huh Yes it is now one of Apollos projects they are trying to rebrand (and the other software).

Im still waiting for your reply Steven about Apollo originally being a charity? You lied and had to shut that down. I was right.


Conclusion


Steven Mccullah over extends into fabrication his business involvement. He lied about his qualifications. His company names are the same or similar to real companies in similar industries he is trying to push in order to DECEIVE.

Most of the businesses he was involved with seem like family businesses and he claims responsibilities beyond him.

Steven has been doing this for years pretending to be involved with precious metals and people are falling for this. He copies company names or makes his company names sound similar, they are NOT.

So, how do you feel now holding Apollo coin or GSX? You bought from someone who has been scamming for long time, deliberately deceiving you.

Steven are you qualified in anything?, oh yes....BULLSHIT.






Just a hint...this took 10 mins for the above research...waybackmachine
You can follow all the names business owners names....Brandon, Betty, Jacob, James and Robert and Steven Mccullah.
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Here is an article about the SCAM GSX from https://topedgefx.com/apollo-fintech-review-gsx-coin-scam-gsxcde-com/



Apollo Fintech Review: GSX Coin Scam (gsxcde.com)

Apollo Fintech (gsxcde.com) claims to offer a coin known as GSX which is also backed by Gold, Land and US dollar reserves.
The current price of GSX coin is $0.046 (july 22) and this price is apparently going to increase as more assets are added.
Apollo Fintech is confident that investors of GSX coin are going to achieve guaranteed high returns which are paid in yearly dividends.

According to their own speculations, the value of GSX coin is going to increase by 500% in 2021.
These projections are suspicious because they’re not based on any hard data.
In addition to this, Apollo Fintech is inviting investors to buy GSX coin today on the promise that they’ll get a 60+ bonus.

Unfortunately, there are serious issues with this project which is why we can’t include it into our list of recommended trading and investment resources.

Apollo Fintech review

In this review, we’ll let you know whether gsxcde.com is a project you can trust or not.
Is Apollo Fintech Legit?

No, this project is not a legit investment and those who actually buy GSX coin will all lose their money.

Our observation is based on the following facts:

The website is offering guaranteed and super-high returns.
The claim that GSX coin is backed by Gold, land and USD reserves ($1.4 billion) cannot be verified.
Ownership information is not known
This coin launch requires SEC approval which they do not have
Appollo Fintech has the hallmark of a scam
The GSX coin scam

GSX coin is a worthless Cryptocurrency not backed by anything.

But the lie that surround this coin will convince you that it is very safe to purchase the coin.
The truth is that no independent audits will be done.
No 50% of unsold coins will be burned. Dividends won’t be paid either.


Can you recover money lost through Apollo Fintech scam?

If you’ve lost a significant sum of money to this ponzi scheme, you can recover your money.
Simply visit this page and sign up...https://mychargeback.com/consultation/?a_aid=151014


Conclusion

This scam will definitely suck many people in and even trick them to invest a lot of money.
What you must know is that the website is not offering a legit Cryptocurrency worth investing in.
They will probably scam you by disappearing and leaving you with nowhere to sell your coin or recover your USD.
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