Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash

[face.angry123]

Bitcoin Cash definitely has all the prospects for existence and development.Bitcoin Cash is a coin whose characteristics fully meet modern demands in the world of cryptocurrency.
It is provided with both high speed of transactions, and reliable protection therefore has to become at one level with classical bit after a while. But how much time this will take can not predict one.

[batang_bitcoin]

There is an upcoming btc cah fork so i am holding bcash until fork.

What another fork? What is this fork? These forks are totally abused and never stops, there must be some crypto law for this.. oh I remember crypto is unregulated.

Bitcoin Cash will be forking again, I heard this time it is to fix some issues with the chain and upgrade it to 8mb per block. No free coins this time though.

Oh, I thought it will be free coins again for the hopefuls.

Well they are not looking on what they throw to bitcoin and now they are upgrading because of their issues, there's no perfect system but the existing one is the best but not them but bitcoin. They should have realize this and stop dividing the community and misleading the newcomers.

[JollyGood]

Oh, I thought it will be free coins again for the hopefuls.

Well they are not looking on what they throw to bitcoin and now they are upgrading because of their issues, there's no perfect system but the existing one is the best but not them but bitcoin. They should have realize this and stop dividing the community and misleading the newcomers.

They already created millions of free BCH from forking Bitcoin, now they will fork Bitcoin Cash to fix what they need to fix but it will not be able to compete with the Bitcoin lightening protocol anyway

[aelinsleague]

I'd go to what major institutions are using as they are the ones who can dictate which coin will succeed and as of the moment, that is still Bitcoin despite the recent noise of BCH community.

[btc78]

So after the fork happened and Bitcoin Cash was created, as of today on CoinMarketCap it shows:

Bitcoin
capital $118,038,167,261
price $6,962.42
circulating 16,953,612
volume last 24 hrs $4,671,340,000   

Bitcoin Cash
capital $11,306,077,844
price $663.06
circulating 17,051,288
volume last 24 hrs $286,801,000   

On every count Bitcoin beats Bitcoin Cash so the question arises, what was the point of creating Bitcoin Cash? Apart from making very rich bitcoin holding people even more wealthier by creating Bitcoin Cash and adding to their portfolio it seems that there was no need for it. I hear about transactions fees and groups of devs so on being better at Bitcoin Cash but in all honestly what was the point?

Did all those advocating the demise of Bitcoin actually exchange all their BTC for BCH? I doubt it.

To me it seems Bitcoin was always going to come out on top of that battle so why did those whales pushing for the fork really do it and create Bitcoin Cash?

Its unfair for bitcoin why the Copycat has being compared to the original?bitcoin cash has no future because it has no originality,lets stop comparing this since even if how hard you build up this coin this will never have good things in return,still Bitcoin will dominate the market and will be forever

[MASDAS87]

I think Bitcoin is always best and bitcoin is always the King because bitcoin is first decentralized digital currency and Bitcoin is most valuable and most demand-able. but not bad  bitcoin cash for investment nowadays bitcoin cash price  huge raise and I think that bitcoin cash is created an alternative to bitcoin it also had a good.

[franss]

Bitcoin Cash was created with the purpose of "redivision of spheres" of influence and changes of some principles of infrastructure operation in the world of crypto currency.
he founders and community of Bitcoin Cash don’t agree with the idea of separating the signatures from the transaction (Segregated Witness).

[batang_bitcoin]

Oh, I thought it will be free coins again for the hopefuls.

Well they are not looking on what they throw to bitcoin and now they are upgrading because of their issues, there's no perfect system but the existing one is the best but not them but bitcoin. They should have realize this and stop dividing the community and misleading the newcomers.

They already created millions of free BCH from forking Bitcoin, now they will fork Bitcoin Cash to fix what they need to fix but it will not be able to compete with the Bitcoin lightening protocol anyway

Thanks for your words, I'm not that too updated with them since I'm ignoring it.

Good to know that they will still not be too close to bitcoin as they are trying to defame bitcoin. And with the recent news that they have to face a lawsuit never stops them to claim that they are bitcoin.

[CryptosapienZA]

I wonder if Winklevoss twins, Roger Ver and other whales sold their BCH. Does anyone know?

No one knows. After the hardwork of Roger Ver of shilling BCH, now he's been quiet so this can be a sign that he might sold his BCH now and the only whale that had left to have BCH are now the Chinese players. I don't know anything about the Winklevoss twins but they have surely took profit with it already and transfer that profit to bitcoin.

This is a blatant LIE. All Roger talks about on his Twitter is BCH. He is still a huge advocate of BCH. i DONT FOLLOW THE Winklevoss twins so I Dont know how they feel about BCH

[JollyGood]

I wonder if Winklevoss twins, Roger Ver and other whales sold their BCH. Does anyone know?

No one knows. After the hardwork of Roger Ver of shilling BCH, now he's been quiet so this can be a sign that he might sold his BCH now and the only whale that had left to have BCH are now the Chinese players. I don't know anything about the Winklevoss twins but they have surely took profit with it already and transfer that profit to bitcoin.

This is a blatant LIE. All Roger talks about on his Twitter is BCH. He is still a huge advocate of BCH. i DONT FOLLOW THE Winklevoss twins so I Dont know how they feel about BCH

boyptc is entitled to his opinion.

I have no idea what Roger Ver talks about on "his" twitter handle because I have no time for the man (I cannot say I like him and I cannot say I do not like him) likewise I do not follow what the Winklevoss twins have to say but they are not saying much, they seem to be very well behaved and courteous gentlemen who have probably never bad-mouthed Bitcoin and have never promoted the fork which created Bitcoin Cash and made already Bitcoin multi-millionaires in to even more multi-millionaires by receiving from-from-thin-air Bitcoin Cash.

I know when Ver made the video informing the whole world the MtGox was doing well and there were no problems (when it was days away from going under with people losing out on their own Bitcoins), that was considered a blatant lie by many. More blatant lies that are attributed by other users to Ver are covered in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2124500.0

[ryanfromrethink]

both this is just a great option to invest.I have both cryptocurrencies and I am sure that there will be even more different cryptocurrencies on my wallets

[jaysabi]

Anyone going into this with a foregone conclusion that forking the chain would create a new coin with enough widespread support to give it billions of dollars worth of market cap is delusional. They didn't/couldn't have known that the fork would have held up as well as it has and that this long later, BCH wouldn't be dead in the water. It's not thriving, but it's not failing either. It's muddling along, right about where Bitcoin was price-wise before everything went insane. Everyone was pretty sure it was gonna fail, and it hasn't done that. I'm agnostic about the two of them, if there needs to be a crypto solution (and I'm not even convinced there needs to be), then I don't care which side blah blah blah; it just needs to work and work well. Both sides are holy righteous about themselves, which frankly is a bit annoying how much space on the internet is occupied by their flame wars.

Yes Ver and his associates that launched Bitcoin Cash could never have imagined or hoped BCH would have the level of market it has but it might level out very soon and bring the Bitcoin Cash price back to where it should be.

I don't know what it "should" be, only what it is. Functionally, I don't see a difference between the two right now. BTC is far more widely adopted, and BCH has a potential benefit in avoiding congestion longer by having larger block size which is a solution that may ultimately never be needed. All the difference in culture, for lack of a better term, is arbitrary and not terribly important to me. There seems to be a lot of yelling on both sides, which I just discount for the most part. I don't know the motivations of the BCH folks, I only know the common arguments people ascribe to them which are laden with emotion and subjective venom, so I don't find them overly compelling, just a lot of noise. At the end of the day, I only care that one of them works and works well. Right now they both work, and I have no problem with that.

[JollyGood]

I don't know what it "should" be, only what it is. Functionally, I don't see a difference between the two right now. BTC is far more widely adopted, and BCH has a potential benefit in avoiding congestion longer by having larger block size which is a solution that may ultimately never be needed. All the difference in culture, for lack of a better term, is arbitrary and not terribly important to me. There seems to be a lot of yelling on both sides, which I just discount for the most part. I don't know the motivations of the BCH folks, I only know the common arguments people ascribe to them which are laden with emotion and subjective venom, so I don't find them overly compelling, just a lot of noise. At the end of the day, I only care that one of them works and works well. Right now they both work, and I have no problem with that.

Personally I have no problem with Ver, Zhuoer or Bitcoin Cash. I just prefer for clarity sake the bitcoin.com domain and everything Bitcoin related is specifically Bitcoin and hope everything Bitcoin Cash is specific to Bitcoin Cash so there is no confusion

[nev1d]

I think the prospect of bitcoin is much more than BitcoinCash because it has been on the market since a long time. Bitcoin - one of the oldest crypto currency if not the very first!

[Loran Lann]

I prefer to have bitcoin rather than bitcoin cash because I think when you have bitcoin you can play altcoin which can suport payment using bitcoin and for now bitcoin cash can not be used to buy altcoin

[Zedxxx]

BitcoinCash is just a clone of Bitcoin but with faster and cheaper transtactions.

[lucemferrum01]

So after the fork happened and Bitcoin Cash was created, as of today on CoinMarketCap it shows:

Bitcoin
capital $118,038,167,261
price $6,962.42
circulating 16,953,612
volume last 24 hrs $4,671,340,000   

Bitcoin Cash
capital $11,306,077,844
price $663.06
circulating 17,051,288
volume last 24 hrs $286,801,000   

On every count Bitcoin beats Bitcoin Cash so the question arises, what was the point of creating Bitcoin Cash? Apart from making very rich bitcoin holding people even more wealthier by creating Bitcoin Cash and adding to their portfolio it seems that there was no need for it. I hear about transactions fees and groups of devs so on being better at Bitcoin Cash but in all honestly what was the point?

Did all those advocating the demise of Bitcoin actually exchange all their BTC for BCH? I doubt it.

To me it seems Bitcoin was always going to come out on top of that battle so why did those whales pushing for the fork really do it and create Bitcoin Cash?

I don't know why exactly they creat bitcoin cash but in my opinion many people can't afford the price of bitcoin now and i think they creat BCH to cover the disadvantage of bitcoin so i think that is one of the reason why they creat BCH.

[jaysabi]

BCH was created to make a few bit bitcoin owners more money and to allow a mining company to continue to illegally use the patented ASIC Boost which Segwit doesn't allow. BCH now has a group of loyalists who are trying to scam people into believing that it is actually Bitcoin, ya know despite Bitcoin already existing. There is nothing wrong with BCH in and of itself. Its just a fork. No better than hundreds of other altcoins or several other more recent Bitcoin forks, but because it was the first fork the few rich Bitcoin people pushing it have turned it into a crusade for scammers and charlatans to try to trick people by attempting to still the Bitcoin brand. They pump, they dump, they scream and rant and whine. At the end of the day its just another altcoin that the wider market has no reason to adopt over hundreds of other altcoins. If Bitcoin Cash had a different name it'd probably be worth about a tenth of its current value. It's a coin that exists for no other reason that to ride off the coattails of Bitcoin and trick as many people into buying it as possible so the rich bitcoiners who created it can get even richer.

100% correct. Completely fake marketcap you can not split a company in half and then each is worth exactly the same as the whole company before the split up.
When you divorce the two parties dont end up with a house of there own which the shared the day before.

I think you don't know how investing works. First, market cap can't be fake because it's just a computation of two inputs (price and units available) and the only way to have a "fake" marketcap is for either of the inputs to be fake. We know neither are, so it's not a fake marketcap anymore than Bitcoin's is a fake marketcap. Second, companies spin off all the time from previous companies and the two companies separately are worth more in total than the individual company was before the split. The most recent case is when PayPal spun off of eBay and the marketcap of both companies soon was much larger than eBay's marketcap was when it owned PayPal itself. This is because spinning off an entity into its own company unlocks value that might not have been represented when it was a subsidiary of the other company. BCH wasn't owned by BTC, so it's a little different in that respect, but it's by no means strange for a company to be worth substantially more overnight after being spun out into a separate entity.

Personally I have no problem with Ver, Zhuoer or Bitcoin Cash. I just prefer for clarity sake the bitcoin.com domain and everything Bitcoin related is specifically Bitcoin and hope everything Bitcoin Cash is specific to Bitcoin Cash so there is no confusion

Yeah, that's fair. Trying to hijack the name is shady, and not to defend them, but I do believe that they believe they're being more true to the original vision of Satoshi than the current developers, so I think they believe themselves to be the true Bitcoin. It's like when religious sects split off and each side labels the other side as heretics for not being true believers. Looks like the same mentality here by both sides.

[leea-1334]

Bitcoin for sure. Bitcoin cash and other similar coins are only made due to forks, or at least, are made as copies of Bitcoin. And as we all know, it's always the original that prospers. I am not saying that in consideration of the point of origin, like for example with NEO and ETH, many say that since NEO is the China copy of ETH that it's not better, I don't share that belief because copy or not, it has it's own technology at its back and it also has their own following of people who support them, it's just that people trust the original more.

100% Bitcoin. Even when Bitcoin Cash jumped so high after the Coinbase listing. Even when Roger Ver and his minions poured all their money into promoting Bitcoin Cash. Even when people said they would drop Bitcoin and adopt BCH. Nothing convinced me that it would ever sniff the success of Bitcoin. Everywhere in the world the old system is sitting up and taking notice of Bitcoin. Those who noticed BCH like in Canada even said it was a scam.

They might have done well as a fork alt, but they chose to do it in tasteless ways.

[wiak2]

growth was observed in both, so I am incredibly sympathetic and this and that cryptocurrency at the moment. By the way today the numbers are completely different already )