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November 05, 2013, 01:21:16 PM
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It's at times like this that my principles of Buy And Hold get seriously tested.  Thanks goodness for cold storage. It makes it too much hassle to sell....

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November 05, 2013, 01:24:20 PM
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It's at times like this that my principles of Buy And Hold get seriously tested.  Thanks goodness for cold storage. It makes it too much hassle to sell....

If only i did that back when BTC was at $30 a couple of years ago... id be a millionaire now at these prices! hindsight eh...

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November 05, 2013, 01:29:02 PM
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It's at times like this that my principles of Buy And Hold get seriously tested.  Thanks goodness for cold storage. It makes it too much hassle to sell....

If only i did that back when BTC was at $30 a couple of years ago... id be a millionaire now at these prices! hindsight eh...

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November 05, 2013, 01:37:41 PM
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I sold about 60% of my BTC last week when it started to dip as I wanted to recover my initial investment so what remained was pure profit.

Now the price is a lot higher and I really wished I'd held longer, but still I am sat on roughly 25BTC and that is all profit so I am relatively happy still Smiley I do kinda wish I hadn't sold so many last year though, but thats life eh?
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November 05, 2013, 01:41:39 PM
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It's at times like this that my principles of Buy And Hold get seriously tested.  Thanks goodness for cold storage. It makes it too much hassle to sell....

I have the opposite feeling. I feel very good when I see the price rising every time but when it starts dropping I just laugh it off and think: ah next time then. I never have the inclination to sell all my coins. I feel like Sméagol.

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November 05, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
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But in cold storage you cannot take a margin position.
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November 05, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
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But in cold storage you cannot take a margin position.

I've tried margin trading in the past. The nausea it induces when the market moves against you makes the worst hangover seem like nothing.  Never again.

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November 05, 2013, 02:33:10 PM
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Yeah. 95% of my Bitcoins are "dead" to me. It's the only mindset I can have if I don't want to go mad and broke in the process.

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November 05, 2013, 03:21:41 PM
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But in cold storage you cannot take a margin position.

I've tried margin trading in the past. The nausea it induces when the market moves against you makes the worst hangover seem like nothing.  Never again.

hahaha very nice way to describe it Smiley Its indeed how it is.
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November 05, 2013, 03:51:11 PM
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But sometimes you are 100% confident in an up move. For example 140 after silk road, and 205 now, I was 90% confident in a massive breakout. I went all in both times but chickened out of margin. Now I know that I'm only making X per tick when I could be making 3X per tick, and I'm pissing away 2x for no reason. I feel like Im cheating myself out of getting rich and I'm this lonely bear that didn't even buy in the first place.
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November 05, 2013, 04:43:28 PM
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But sometimes you are 100% confident in an up move. For example 140 after silk road, and 205 now, I was 90% confident in a massive breakout. I went all in both times but chickened out of margin. Now I know that I'm only making X per tick when I could be making 3X per tick, and I'm pissing away 2x for no reason. I feel like Im cheating myself out of getting rich and I'm this lonely bear that didn't even buy in the first place.

Maybe, but you still made the right decision, unless you have b*lls of steel and pockets a mile deep. And if you have those, then why bother with margin in the first place?

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November 05, 2013, 04:44:51 PM
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If you have an edge, you will get wealthy quickly enough. I don't like margin.
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November 05, 2013, 04:47:10 PM
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But in cold storage you cannot take a margin position.

We all know Warren Buffen and Charlie Munger. Do you know their third partner? Me neither, he traded on margin and git liquidated in the 80s having to sell BRK-A shares for about $20.

Buffet said his mistake wasn't wanting to become rich but wanting to become rich fast.

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November 05, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
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I wish I had done the same and thought that the bitcoins I bought at $86 in the SR 'brief crash' were dead to me. But I didn't, I guess this is how you get experience.
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November 05, 2013, 04:52:26 PM
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I wish I had done the same and thought that the bitcoins I bought at $86 in the SR 'brief crash' were dead to me. But I didn't, I guess this is how you get experience.

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November 05, 2013, 04:55:28 PM
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I wish I had done the same and thought that the bitcoins I bought at $86 in the SR 'brief crash' were dead to me. But I didn't, I guess this is how you get experience.

yeah I bought at 200 then held while it crashed to 170, then sold at 205 right before it skyrocketed up to 250 now

FML HINDSIGHT WHYYYYY DID I TRY TO BUY LOW SELL HIGH WHYYYY

Buy low, don't sell Smiley

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November 05, 2013, 04:56:21 PM
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I wish I had done the same and thought that the bitcoins I bought at $86 in the SR 'brief crash' were dead to me. But I didn't, I guess this is how you get experience.

yeah I bought at 200 then held while it crashed to 170, then sold at 205 right before it skyrocketed up to 250 now

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November 05, 2013, 05:22:47 PM
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But in cold storage you cannot take a margin position.

We all know Warren Buffen and Charlie Munger. Do you know their third partner? Me neither, he traded on margin and git liquidated in the 80s having to sell BRK-A shares for about $20.

Buffet said his mistake wasn't wanting to become rich but wanting to become rich fast.

Actually I *do* remember reading about the third guy. Forgot his name though Cheesy Buffet also acknowledged that the guy was a brilliant trader and made huge profits at times, just not consistent enough. I should look up the article I read about this...

Guess my point is, margin trading can work in a few special situations (like the aforementioned recovery after the SR flash crash), but it's probably not a good idea to let it become a habit.

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November 05, 2013, 05:32:07 PM
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But sometimes you are 100% confident in an up move. For example 140 after silk road, and 205 now, I was 90% confident in a massive breakout. I went all in both times but chickened out of margin. Now I know that I'm only making X per tick when I could be making 3X per tick, and I'm pissing away 2x for no reason. I feel like Im cheating myself out of getting rich and I'm this lonely bear that didn't even buy in the first place.

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November 05, 2013, 05:35:37 PM
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One of the best traders was Jesse Lauriston Livermore. He made and lost millions in the 1930's. He committed suicide in 1940.
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I am not an experienced trader, but I very much enjoyed the book about his life. It taught me much of the fundamentals.

A good quote: "A stock operator has to fight a lot expensive enemies within himself."

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