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November 05, 2013, 07:47:37 PM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?
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November 05, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
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You have a weird idea of how a telephone line or a network works Smiley

When you receive or transmit data your network card absorbs from the network approximately the same energy it emits. All this energy doesn't go somewhere: simply becomes heat.
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November 05, 2013, 08:16:28 PM
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Maybe there's some microscopic entropy change when finding the right nonce from all the possibilities.

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November 05, 2013, 08:39:27 PM
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You have a weird idea of how a telephone line or a network works Smiley When you receive or transmit data your network card absorbs from the network approximately the same energy it emits. All this energy doesn't go somewhere: simply becomes heat.
But when I watch a picture on my screen, some of the electricity (data bits) that are being transferred to the monitor will become light energy when the monitor displays it.
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November 05, 2013, 08:42:33 PM
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You have a weird idea of how a telephone line or a network works Smiley When you receive or transmit data your network card absorbs from the network approximately the same energy it emits. All this energy doesn't go somewhere: simply becomes heat.
But when I watch a picture on my screen, some of the electricity (data bits) that are being transferred to the monitor will become light energy when the monitor displays it.

When that light strikes something it will convert into heat.*  Energy is never lost only converted.

Computers (including bitcoin miners) do no WORK in the physics sense of the word.  Thus for all practical purposes 100% of the electrical energy becomes thermal energy (heat).

Run a miner which pulls 1 KW from the wall for 1 hour and you have 1 kWh electricity in, 1 kWh heat out.  

*If the light passes through your window some of the energy may convert into heat outside your house but for all intents and purposes this is a negligible rounding error.
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November 06, 2013, 12:24:49 AM
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You have a weird idea of how a telephone line or a network works Smiley When you receive or transmit data your network card absorbs from the network approximately the same energy it emits. All this energy doesn't go somewhere: simply becomes heat.
But when I watch a picture on my screen, some of the electricity (data bits) that are being transferred to the monitor will become light energy when the monitor displays it.

i say this with all respect, but are you an idiot? your sceen is connected to a power source that provides all the power = light. the data from your computer is carried in a fraction of a watt, and simply tells the screen where to point the power to make light on a pixel

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November 06, 2013, 12:47:08 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

In theory, 100% of the energy is converted to heat but not as efficient as a heater... no matter what the electricity is used for, it will still product heat for that part....

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November 06, 2013, 12:54:20 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

In theory, 100% of the energy is converted to heat but not as efficient as a heater... no matter what the electricity is used for, it will still product heat for that part....

An electric (resistance) heater is also 100% efficient.  Any resistance load is equally efficient.  It can't be more or less.
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November 06, 2013, 01:29:27 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

In theory, 100% of the energy is converted to heat but not as efficient as a heater... no matter what the electricity is used for, it will still product heat for that part....

An electric (resistance) heater is also 100% efficient.  Any resistance load is equally efficient.  It can't be more or less.
But not all heaters work by resistance. A heat pump will provide about 3 to 5 times as much heat as the electricity it consumes, and is therefore the obvious choice for anyone who cares about their electricity bill, or who wants to confuse the Hell out of people who think they understand thermodynamics but don't.

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November 06, 2013, 01:33:19 AM
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True I guess it might just be geography but around here nobody calls a heat pump a heater.
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November 06, 2013, 01:35:16 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

In theory, 100% of the energy is converted to heat but not as efficient as a heater... no matter what the electricity is used for, it will still product heat for that part....

An electric (resistance) heater is also 100% efficient.  Any resistance load is equally efficient.  It can't be more or less.
But not all heaters work by resistance. A heat pump will provide about 3 to 5 times as much heat as the electricity it consumes, and is therefore the obvious choice for anyone who cares about their electricity bill, or who wants to confuse the Hell out of people who think they understand thermodynamics but don't.

Thanks for the explanation, I remember reading somewhere a good heat pump can produce 5 BTU per watt instead of 1 BTU... oh well...

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November 06, 2013, 02:04:43 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

Yes, 100% energy goes to heat, If you want to reduce heat use platinum PSU.. it would save about 5-20% depending on your current PSU..


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November 06, 2013, 02:14:30 AM
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Thanks for the explanation, I remember reading somewhere a good heat pump can produce 5 BTU per watt instead of 1 BTU... oh well...

To clarify a heatpump can MOVE 3W to 5W (not BTU) for every 1W used.  It is simply moving heat from outside to inside (in winter) or heat from inside to outside (in summer).
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November 06, 2013, 05:19:10 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

You going to heat your house with GPU? You better think twice cause I see some forum member saying there is weird smell while GPU mining. It might have serious side effect.....

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November 06, 2013, 10:26:32 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

You going to heat your house with GPU? You better think twice cause I see some forum member saying there is weird smell while GPU mining. It might have serious side effect.....

Anybody know anything about the smell? I had GPU in my house but it doesn't seems to smell bad...


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November 07, 2013, 02:46:22 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

You going to heat your house with GPU? You better think twice cause I see some forum member saying there is weird smell while GPU mining. It might have serious side effect.....

Your GPU should smell like $$.
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November 07, 2013, 02:54:38 AM
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If you look at Satoshi's posts (before he disappeared and abandoned the Bitcoin project) you will see he was very interested in "free mining" as it related to using a hard-working computer to replace electric heat.

Basically if we use the heat generated by the rig to replace a needed electric heater we're mining for free according to "mr. see you later".  Kiss

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November 08, 2013, 01:09:09 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

You going to heat your house with GPU? You better think twice cause I see some forum member saying there is weird smell while GPU mining. It might have serious side effect.....

Your GPU should smell like $$.

No it smells like burned metal....
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November 08, 2013, 06:35:01 PM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

You going to heat your house with GPU? You better think twice cause I see some forum member saying there is weird smell while GPU mining. It might have serious side effect.....

Anybody know anything about the smell? I had GPU in my house but it doesn't seems to smell bad...

Mined with 3 GPUs for a year. No smells. Only heat. Clean the GPUs of dust and consider re-oiling the fans occasionally.

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November 09, 2013, 01:48:05 AM
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Electrical energy goes into my GPU and changes to heat energy.

Is 100% of the energy being changed to heat when mining, or is there a small portion that is still electricity? The data bits I am sending to the BTC network must still be electrical energy, right?

You going to heat your house with GPU? You better think twice cause I see some forum member saying there is weird smell while GPU mining. It might have serious side effect.....

Anybody know anything about the smell? I had GPU in my house but it doesn't seems to smell bad...

Mined with 3 GPUs for a year. No smells. Only heat. Clean the GPUs of dust and consider re-oiling the fans occasionally.

Well, it smells for me, I later find out that its due to my PSU overheating and the smell came from capacitor...
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