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November 05, 2013, 09:59:22 PM
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Which is fine so long as Bitcoin's central bank's client
Huh?
You are surely aware that the organisation that controls (writes and maintains) the Bitcoin client used by the majority basically controls Bitcoin.
Only if you let/make us.


So, given that Bitcoin's mantra is decentralisation one assumes you would advise people to use a client other than the official one, otherwise everything gets all centrally and we known how much Bitcoin cultists hate that.
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November 05, 2013, 10:10:18 PM
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You've drifted offtopic. All posts in a thread should be strictly related to the original post. I asked you to explain and you have commenced with adhomenim.

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November 05, 2013, 10:14:37 PM
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You've drifted offtopic. All posts in a thread should be strictly related to the original post. I asked you to explain and you have commenced with adhomenim.

Whatever. Whilst were here then, how about my question?
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November 05, 2013, 10:24:09 PM
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Which is fine so long as Bitcoin's central bank's client
Huh?
You are surely aware that the organisation that controls (writes and maintains) the Bitcoin client used by the majority basically controls Bitcoin.
Only if you let/make us.
So, given that Bitcoin's mantra is decentralisation one assumes you would advise people to use a client other than the official one, otherwise everything gets all centrally and we known how much Bitcoin cultists hate that.
There is no official client.
I'll advise people to use the best tool for the job they want to accomplish - often that's Armory.
Unfortunately, there aren't many good tools out there yet.

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November 05, 2013, 10:37:33 PM
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Which is fine so long as Bitcoin's central bank's client
Huh?
You are surely aware that the organisation that controls (writes and maintains) the Bitcoin client used by the majority basically controls Bitcoin.
Only if you let/make us.
So, given that Bitcoin's mantra is decentralisation one assumes you would advise people to use a client other than the official one, otherwise everything gets all centrally and we known how much Bitcoin cultists hate that.
There is no official client.
I'll advise people to use the best tool for the job they want to accomplish - often that's Armory.
Unfortunately, there aren't many good tools out there yet.

Does Bitcoin have a PR department yet, because that reply sound like it came from it?
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November 05, 2013, 10:50:48 PM
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I was unaware there was an 'official' client.

@revans - Just been reading through your anger fuelled posts from other threads. May I ask why your actually signed up and activate on these forums and what you hope to achieve?


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November 05, 2013, 11:00:36 PM
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I was unaware there was an 'official' client.

@revans - Just been reading through your anger fuelled posts from other threads. May I ask why your actually signed up and activate on these forums and what you hope to achieve?




1. Semantics. There is a defacto official client.

2. No you may not.
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November 05, 2013, 11:04:21 PM
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2. No you may not.

Sounds like your butthurt about something to me. Oh, dear never mind. Cheesy

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November 05, 2013, 11:52:07 PM
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1. Semantics. There is a defacto official client.
Which client is that? Why have you decided to make it a defacto official client?

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November 05, 2013, 11:58:34 PM
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1. Semantics. There is a defacto official client.
Which client is that? Why have you decided to make it a defacto official client?

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Given its ubiquity it controls the Bitcoin network.
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November 06, 2013, 12:06:21 AM
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Nothing stops you from developing your own client and promote it

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November 06, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
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Nothing stops you from developing your own client and promote it


Hardly the point now is it.
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November 06, 2013, 01:38:40 AM
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Given its ubiquity it controls the Bitcoin network.
Why do you give it ubiquity?

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November 06, 2013, 01:44:05 AM
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Given its ubiquity it controls the Bitcoin network.
Why do you give it ubiquity?

It is an attribute which emerges from widespread adoption.
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November 06, 2013, 02:15:29 AM
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Given its ubiquity it controls the Bitcoin network.
Why do you give it ubiquity?
It is an attribute which emerges from widespread adoption.
I think you underestimate adoption of MultiBit, Armory, and Electrum.

On the full node front, there's a bit more of a ubiquity problem, but that's the fault of users, as I already hinted.
Are you using any of them to help improve the situation? No? Then you're part of the problem.
We have at least Picocoin and libbitcoin/SX now. Go switch to one.

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November 06, 2013, 02:20:55 AM
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It is an attribute which emerges from widespread adoption.

Of course that also will never change.  Netscape navigator still controls the direction of web development and has near universal marketshare.
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November 06, 2013, 02:53:05 AM
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It is an attribute which emerges from widespread adoption.

Of course that also will never change.  Netscape navigator still controls the direction of web development and has near universal marketshare.

I did not say it would not change, I simply stated that the most popular client software essentially controls Bitcoin.
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November 06, 2013, 04:05:20 AM
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It is an attribute which emerges from widespread adoption.

Of course that also will never change.  Netscape navigator still controls the direction of web development and has near universal marketshare.

I did not say it would not change, I simply stated that the most popular client software essentially controls Bitcoin.

No.  Not really.  Influence maybe but not control.  The dev team which abuses that influence by doing something detrimental to Bitcoin will find they have an unpopular client and thus no influence.
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