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April 10, 2018, 06:53:13 AM
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Shitkal & Shitmain had enough time & all needed information to make Asics for V7, because monero devs are lazy retarded fucktards who thinks with some minor changes they can keep off asics.

Shitkal & Shitmain now just turning on their Asics again, next week difficulty will be back to 1GHS++
Yeah sure, thats why Baikal is selling 1 Asic and give 4 extra. So you get 5 Asics for one price.
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April 10, 2018, 07:12:40 AM
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average is around 60-85 watts per card calculated by my pdu so 560 watts for my 8 gpu rigs
compared to 110-130 Watts on eth

I find i can run 2-3 more rigs per 30 amp 240v panel vs eth so I think the power usage is alot better than 70%

In my case, tests I conducted for the whole system, measured at the wall with smartplug, 683 watts eth 152mhs, 520 watts xmr 4350hs, system with 5 gpus, my calculation is 25% power saving, aside from the gpus, i think the system use a total of 100watts just to turn it on, also i believe xmr can be a lot more underclocked if the memory is elpida.

what are your core and memory settings ?

I max core at 1100 and mem around 1925 wih 900mv on the memory as well.  I heavily undervolt all my rx 480 , 470 and 5x cards  683 watts for 152 mhs is kinda high for non dual mining thats close to 140 watts per card

100 watts mining monero per card is really high.

On one pdu that was maxed at 31 amps 240 mining eth , i got down to 22 amps 240v for all six rigs on that rack

thats 30% less power usage across the board. 

I just hope monero stays even or close to eth in proftiablity , saving so much power and so much less heat right now.

All we need is for etn to fork and spread more of the hash
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April 10, 2018, 07:37:33 AM
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Shitkal & Shitmain had enough time & all needed information to make Asics for V7, because monero devs are lazy retarded fucktards who thinks with some minor changes they can keep off asics.

Shitkal & Shitmain now just turning on their Asics again, next week difficulty will be back to 1GHS++
Yeah sure, thats why Baikal is selling 1 Asic and give 4 extra. So you get 5 Asics for one price.

ofc they sell now their useless hardware... & with their v7 asics they will fuckup difficulty again behind closed doors , round about 1 month before next anti asic fork you will be able to order them

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April 10, 2018, 07:43:40 AM
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as it is (the last few days)  , it seems that asics are out of the game.
The metric should be the unknown pool hashpower which just dissapeared.  And this was some 80% of the network. Speechless.

In case of solo mining farms with GPU mining monero out of the known pools, using their own pool, I see no explanation why this hashrates have not been transfered to the new algo at the same way. I mean, if someone has a farm of GPU's mining monero in his own pool , then I would expect that after updating the miner software to continue mine in a same manner, using it's own pool again.
But the fact that unknown pool has just vanished leads to think that it was just asics (and bots?) controlling 80% of the coin. just wow

All the new added hashpower is possibly migrated gpu's from other coins to monero. Things will clear out in the next few days so to find out more.

I would start to worry when I see again the unknown pool hashrate increasing again.
It would be also interesting to make an exercise to check the  percentage of the unknown pool factor in other coins. This will show the real status of the industry.
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April 10, 2018, 11:16:40 AM
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I am swapping my "big boy" CPUs and AMD GPUs over to Monero as of now... huge profit boost.

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April 10, 2018, 11:49:05 AM
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I am swapping my "big boy" CPUs and AMD GPUs over to Monero as of now... huge profit boost.

You already missed the profit boost.

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April 10, 2018, 12:35:33 PM
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I am swapping my "big boy" CPUs and AMD GPUs over to Monero as of now... huge profit boost.

You already missed the profit boost.
LOL seriously. ETH is back to being more profitable. Monero was good yesterday, but that was short lived.

If you have Vegas, then XMR is probably still best.
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April 10, 2018, 01:47:29 PM
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After kick the ASIC out, at least the profit per AMD GPU increase as ETH.

I think the hast rate will stable to a level let the profit per AMD GPU keep th same as ETH, even a bit higher.
(Because there are some Ethash ASIC.)
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April 10, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
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what are your core and memory settings ?

I max core at 1100 and mem around 1925 wih 900mv on the memory as well.  I heavily undervolt all my rx 480 , 470 and 5x cards  683 watts for 152 mhs is kinda high for non dual mining thats close to 140 watts per card

100 watts mining monero per card is really high.


You see that is the thing, core and memory for the rx 480 / 580, all 760mv - 800mv. I can't go lower than this, is the maximum to underclock and yet only 25% power saving.

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April 10, 2018, 02:27:55 PM
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After kick the ASIC out, at least the profit per AMD GPU increase as ETH.

I think the hast rate will stable to a level let the profit per AMD GPU keep th same as ETH, even a bit higher.
(Because there are some Ethash ASIC.)

https://www.difficultychart.com/monero

still going up. ETH>XMR for profit now.
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April 10, 2018, 02:38:29 PM
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After kick the ASIC out, at least the profit per AMD GPU increase as ETH.

I think the hast rate will stable to a level let the profit per AMD GPU keep th same as ETH, even a bit higher.
(Because there are some Ethash ASIC.)

https://www.difficultychart.com/monero

still going up. ETH>XMR for profit now.

vega users or cpu users, cpu users have no choice, so they hog on xmr.

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April 10, 2018, 04:01:39 PM
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Its amazing how little people understand the mining game.

Comparing daily profits between ETH and XMR is 100% meaningless unless you are converting your mining rewards on the fly.

If you are converting your mining profits on the fly you are an idiot. You dont make your money at the time you mine the coin, you make it when you sell it after the price has gone up.

It sounds like most of you should sell off your rigs before you cost yourselves any more profit.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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April 10, 2018, 04:39:42 PM
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Its amazing how little people understand the mining game.

Comparing daily profits between ETH and XMR is 100% meaningless unless you are converting your mining rewards on the fly.

If you are converting your mining profits on the fly you are an idiot. You dont make your money at the time you mine the coin, you make it when you sell it after the price has gone up.

It sounds like most of you should sell off your rigs before you cost yourselves any more profit.

Yes that is about right but is not what some wanted to point out, the rewards on monero was high x given exchange rate of other coins x usd/btc, now not so much if a given gpu is used, for example cpu users who have no choice will always accept a low profit given the same can be used to pay the electricity used. In the end only vega users or cpu users will end up mining monero.

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April 10, 2018, 05:36:15 PM
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After kick the ASIC out, at least the profit per AMD GPU increase as ETH.

I think the hast rate will stable to a level let the profit per AMD GPU keep th same as ETH, even a bit higher.
(Because there are some Ethash ASIC.)

https://www.difficultychart.com/monero

still going up. ETH>XMR for profit now.

vega users or cpu users, cpu users have no choice, so they hog on xmr.

CPU users sure. But the power/hash ratio still favors GPUs. Almost not worth it to crunch on a CPU. If they’re quite expensive.

$1000+ for an efficient CPU that can crunch like a GPU
Or cheaper old gen Server chips that use like 130W to crunch like half a GPU

But to be honest I’m out of the loop for CPU crunchers. Are there any affordable and efficient CPUs to crunch XMR? I have some E5 v2 Xeons I could throw at it but they use a bit of power
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April 10, 2018, 06:20:27 PM
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After kick the ASIC out, at least the profit per AMD GPU increase as ETH.

I think the hast rate will stable to a level let the profit per AMD GPU keep th same as ETH, even a bit higher.
(Because there are some Ethash ASIC.)

https://www.difficultychart.com/monero

still going up. ETH>XMR for profit now.

vega users or cpu users, cpu users have no choice, so they hog on xmr.

CPU users sure. But the power/hash ratio still favors GPUs. Almost not worth it to crunch on a CPU. If they’re quite expensive.

$1000+ for an efficient CPU that can crunch like a GPU
Or cheaper old gen Server chips that use like 130W to crunch like half a GPU

But to be honest I’m out of the loop for CPU crunchers. Are there any affordable and efficient CPUs to crunch XMR? I have some E5 v2 Xeons I could throw at it but they use a bit of power

People there do use anything they can get hands on...
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April 10, 2018, 06:35:27 PM
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Did the AMD folks leave already (or the stampede just stopped)?
https://www.difficultychart.com/monero
Difficulty below 61G now (might just be a correction to the new balance level).
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April 10, 2018, 07:19:09 PM
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But to be honest I’m out of the loop for CPU crunchers. Are there any affordable and efficient CPUs to crunch XMR? I have some E5 v2 Xeons I could throw at it but they use a bit of power
No: still not interesting. I have also 4x Xeon E5 v2 8/16 cores and it's barely profitable.
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April 10, 2018, 07:22:32 PM
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Did the AMD folks leave already (or the stampede just stopped)?
https://www.difficultychart.com/monero
Difficulty below 61G now (might just be a correction to the new balance level).
Interesting chart: what I find fascinating it that after the fork it went down 80% but it only took 2 days for difficult to rise back to almost 50% of previous level. If this is not another type of ASIC then this means that a massive amount of hashing power has left other coins.
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April 10, 2018, 07:22:46 PM
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Did the AMD folks leave already (or the stampede just stopped)?
https://www.difficultychart.com/monero
Difficulty below 61G now (might just be a correction to the new balance level).

diff needs to drop below ~50G, or price rise above ~$185 before its more profitable than ETH on AMD (non-vega) cards
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April 10, 2018, 07:25:16 PM
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Did the AMD folks leave already (or the stampede just stopped)?
https://www.difficultychart.com/monero
Difficulty below 61G now (might just be a correction to the new balance level).
Interesting chart: what I find fascinating it that after the fork it went down 80% but it only took 2 days for difficult to rise back to almost 50% of previous level. If this is not another type of ASIC then this means that a massive amount of hashing power has left other coins.

it was all the AMD guys coming back to XMR from ETH to mine during the low diff phase.

plus people gradually coming back that forgot to update their miners at the fork. 

doubt theres an asic running so soon yet
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