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Author Topic: [JCE]Fast & stable CN/v8/Heavy/Tube/XHV miner, CPU+GPU, Vega56 1800+ RX580 1200+  (Read 90834 times)
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December 06, 2018, 04:31:02 PM
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Exccelent! On b9 speed on my RX 580 8Gb is 1195 h/s. Devfee is 0,9% - so my is about 1185 h/s. But total shares is 158/2/1 on 4:15 hours:min. So 3 from 158 - is about 1,89% bad shares... Effective hasrate is only 1015 h/s - it's low...
SRB gives 1187 h/s. Devfee is 0.85% - so my is 1177 h/s. Now will test - how much bad shares gives SRB...
xmrig is even better than both jce and srb if we talk about poolside performance
xmrig didn't support latest drivers. Many compute errors... So it no in concuration...
why the hell you need to install latest drivers? It is mining not gaming. Install proper drivers.
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December 07, 2018, 01:26:10 AM
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great job mate.

Get 1250+ on 8gb cards.
https://imgur.com/a/Sk2FDMX
nine GPUs, nice rig bro! decent RX580 can achieve 1200+ and even 1250+ with good modding.

JCE your newest miner is top notch, I'm getting 1350 h/s stable on rx 580 8gb.
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1.1-1.2v I would guess... Smiley
It's abot 150 Watts... Noo, better 1150 h/s on 100 Watt.
I get 1120-1170 on 6 gigabytes and 1220-1230 on 6 samsung rx580 at 950mv (80-83watts overall average)
 
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December 07, 2018, 01:29:07 AM
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WOW JCE !

From 032q to 033b7 here is the diff in the hashrate stats :

RIG1 (6x RX580 8gb gigabyte) : 6400 to 6900 !!!
RIG2 (6x RX580 8gb sapphire) : 6700 to 7300 !!!

I use 2 thread with 880 multi hash each thread.


multi_hash 944 should be better result.

yep, i got about 100 hash per rig (6 rx580 per rig)
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December 07, 2018, 02:35:45 AM
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great job mate.

Get 1250+ on 8gb cards.
https://imgur.com/a/Sk2FDMX
nine GPUs, nice rig bro! decent RX580 can achieve 1200+ and even 1250+ with good modding.

JCE your newest miner is top notch, I'm getting 1350 h/s stable on rx 580 8gb.
How?

1.1-1.2v I would guess... Smiley
It's abot 150 Watts... Noo, better 1150 h/s on 100 Watt.
I get 1120-1170 on 6 gigabytes and 1220-1230 on 6 samsung rx580 at 950mv (80-83watts overall average)
 

Sorry, but 950mv is not doing 80-83w.  I'm assuming you're looking at HWinfo or GPU-z which are not complete, and/or you're forgetting to add in your idle (15w) which still would be too low.

Including idle, at the wall, i see 105-110 @ 850-860mv (1200-1265h/r depending on mem type)
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December 07, 2018, 03:14:50 AM
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I'll check that eventually with my tool
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December 07, 2018, 07:14:26 AM
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Sorry, but 950mv is not doing 80-83w.  I'm assuming you're looking at HWinfo or GPU-z which are not complete, and/or you're forgetting to add in your idle (15w) which still would be too low.

Including idle, at the wall, i see 105-110 @ 850-860mv (1200-1265h/r depending on mem type)


Yeah, you should add about 20-25% to the numbers you're getting in HWinfo.
There's also the PSU quality to consider, you should strive to get as close to 50% PSU as you can where the efficiency is at max.
There can be quite a difference if you're using Gold or a Titanium PSU.
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December 07, 2018, 07:26:02 AM
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tests pending, to be released soon, the b10 with
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Optim for v8 on Zen family processors
Little optims for most GPUs, expect one or two extra h/s
Fixed bad shares as reported by Unclwish
Big warning when a non-amd gpu is enabled
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December 07, 2018, 08:21:50 AM
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Sorry, but 950mv is not doing 80-83w.  I'm assuming you're looking at HWinfo or GPU-z which are not complete, and/or you're forgetting to add in your idle (15w) which still would be too low.

Including idle, at the wall, i see 105-110 @ 850-860mv (1200-1265h/r depending on mem type)


Yeah, you should add about 20-25% to the numbers you're getting in HWinfo.
There's also the PSU quality to consider, you should strive to get as close to 50% PSU as you can where the efficiency is at max.
There can be quite a difference if you're using Gold or a Titanium PSU.

I think we need to be careful w/ this PSU advice.  The specific efficiency curve totally depends on the PSU, though at 110-120v, peak efficiency seems to occur more commonly around 33%, rather than 50% load - at least for high wattage evga/corsair PSUs.  But we should avoid giving the impression someone might consider buying a second PSU just to keep load at 33-50%, given that the efficiency gap between 20% and 80% load is generally only a couple percentage points.

The best advice is simply to get the best rated PSU you can (gold or platinum - titanium prices tend to be absurd,) make sure you are utilizing your PSU at least 20-25%, and go 240v if possible.

Here's an example eff curve for a Corsair ax1500i:
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December 08, 2018, 09:34:25 AM
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hi guys, please give good timings for micron,

777000000000000022AA1C0073626C41B0551016BA0D260B0060060004061420EA8940AA0300000 01914292EB22E3B16-on these timings max 950 on heavy algo  rx578....
 Huh
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December 08, 2018, 10:28:07 AM
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Tested heavy algo on SRB last version... Hmmm - it's very good! Speed stable as rock! On nicehash 20 hours of tests - speed on miner 2315 h/s, speed from pool - 2,3 kH/s. And for 20 hours only 2 errors - invalid nonce... Impressive...
JCE, waiting your next version to test... Please make something to increase effective hashrate...
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December 08, 2018, 11:49:01 AM
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40 hours and counting mining BITTUBE with 4 RX 574.

JCE says:
Miner uptime 40:27:11
Hashrate GPU Thread 0: 462.68 h/s
Hashrate GPU Thread 1: 462.68 h/s - Total GPU 0: 925.35 h/s
Hashrate GPU Thread 2: 442.32 h/s
Hashrate GPU Thread 3: 442.01 h/s - Total GPU 1: 884.32 h/s
Hashrate GPU Thread 4: 454.64 h/s
Hashrate GPU Thread 5: 454.77 h/s - Total GPU 2: 909.40 h/s
Hashrate GPU Thread 6: 467.90 h/s
Hashrate GPU Thread 7: 467.57 h/s - Total GPU 3: 935.47 h/s
Total: 3654.53 h/s - Max: 3668.63 h/s

Effective net hashrate 3493.57 h/s


The pool says:
Hashrate 15m: 4.29 kH/sec
2h: 3.87 kH/sec
24h: 3.57 kH/sec
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December 08, 2018, 12:04:19 PM
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Thanks, in fact it is strange that the pool reports a higher number, my effective net is supposed to be equal to the pool report. It's as strange to see it above than below. It already deduces bad shares, stale and fees.

I'm preparing a version with a better pool-side effective hashrate compared to the instant blue one (even if it looks like it is already >100% Grin) and with some boost for v8 on the CPU part too, for Zen, measured +0.6%
I fixed the remaining bad shares on Heavy that dates back from the b-x versions.

There will be boost on v8 for RX too.
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December 08, 2018, 12:18:13 PM
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Why

Am about to try this miner and was reading the parameter file.

There is a --watchdog that stops the miner is there is not activity or H/R under a threshold. After the miner shut down does it start over again on its own, something like a reboot, or do I need to manually start it again ?
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December 08, 2018, 12:40:23 PM
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Thanks, in fact it is strange that the pool reports a higher number, my effective net is supposed to be equal to the pool report. It's as strange to see it above than below. It already deduces bad shares, stale and fees.

I'm preparing a version with a better pool-side effective hashrate compared to the instant blue one (even if it looks like it is already >100% Grin) and with some boost for v8 on the CPU part too, for Zen, measured +0.6%
I fixed the remaining bad shares on Heavy that dates back from the b-x versions.

There will be boost on v8 for RX too.

I'd prefer a lower power usage. I won't mine V8 because it's too costly to mine.
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December 08, 2018, 01:06:36 PM
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Thanks, in fact it is strange that the pool reports a higher number, my effective net is supposed to be equal to the pool report. It's as strange to see it above than below. It already deduces bad shares, stale and fees.

I'm preparing a version with a better pool-side effective hashrate compared to the instant blue one (even if it looks like it is already >100% Grin) and with some boost for v8 on the CPU part too, for Zen, measured +0.6%
I fixed the remaining bad shares on Heavy that dates back from the b-x versions.

There will be boost on v8 for RX too.

I'd prefer a lower power usage. I won't mine V8 because it's too costly to mine.
Agreed. I want lower power cost v8 too. Speed is allready normal, but power consumption too high...
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December 08, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
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What may happen is that i release a v8 that is faster than TeamRed with decent power consumption, ending to a good efficiency.
If you target low power before all, really, use TeamRed, it's just perfect for that, if you have a RX+. On older cards, so far i'm quite the last dev to maintain support for them.
TeamRed and Cast never supported.
SRB gave up old cards
Claymore dev is stopped.

remains the open source miners but on old cards i'm clearly faster, even fees deduced. Note that i need to fix some recent speed regressions i did due to how i rushed the b9.

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Why

Am about to try this miner and was reading the parameter file.

There is a --watchdog that stops the miner is there is not activity or H/R under a threshold. After the miner shut down does it start over again on its own, something like a reboot, or do I need to manually start it again ?

Arguments for stopping and not restarting the miner:
1. When a GPU crashes, restarting the miner almost never wake it up, it often just crash the whole PC
2. If it was caused by an hardware failure (PSU, fan...) it's a lot safier, and i always give priority to safety.
3. The b9+ has such a stable hashrate that the watchdog is a lot less needed
4. Nothing prevents you to reboot it with a 3-lines batch:

autorestart.bat
Code:
:Begin
call start.bat
goto :Begin

where start.bat is the normal batch you use to start JCE, the one from the package (recommended, just edit the wallet/pool examples) or a custom one.

I know some other dev like Claymore allowed hardware tweaks (voltage...) and auto-restart by default, but i explicitely refuse that, for safety. Safety first.
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December 08, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
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I'm disconnect my R9 270X 4Gb from rig. No profit from it. Electrisity cost too high. My 270X gives 480 h/s on heavy about 100-110 Watt, 535 h/s on v8 about 125-130Watt. No profit.
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December 08, 2018, 08:24:28 PM
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Online is the 0.33b10 GPU

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Fixed bad shares
As a consequence, the effective hashrate is closer to the instant one
Little optim for v8 on Zen CPU and RX GPU
Restored most of the perfs on HD7000
Warning when a non-AMD gpu is enabled

A subtle new feature is that the double-check now uses the Large Pages if possible, like the CPU miner. This is why you may see messages about large page allocated or freed even if you use the GPUs only. If large pages are not configured, no change.

The tests I did on old GPUs was Stellite and v8 and Heavy on HD7950 and HD7850. Didn't try on HD6000 yet.

This is a rare case where the CPU part of the GPU version is faster than the pure CPU one.
Of course i will backport it to a CPU release soon (will be the 0.33h)
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December 09, 2018, 09:20:14 AM
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Online is the 0.33b10 GPU

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Fixed bad shares
As a consequence, the effective hashrate is closer to the instant one
Little optim for v8 on Zen CPU and RX GPU
Restored most of the perfs on HD7000
Warning when a non-AMD gpu is enabled

A subtle new feature is that the double-check now uses the Large Pages if possible, like the CPU miner. This is why you may see messages about large page allocated or freed even if you use the GPUs only. If large pages are not configured, no change.

The tests I did on old GPUs was Stellite and v8 and Heavy on HD7950 and HD7850. Didn't try on HD6000 yet.

This is a rare case where the CPU part of the GPU version is faster than the pure CPU one.
Of course i will backport it to a CPU release soon (will be the 0.33h)
Ok, let's test it...

1st observations - speed on heavy became lower than on B9 about 10-15 h/s. And now it lower than on SRB...
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December 09, 2018, 09:26:31 AM
Last edit: December 09, 2018, 10:08:35 AM by JCE-Miner
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Maybe not yet, i let it run the whole day, and while the new v8 is fine, i still got some bad shares on Heavy, looks like i need an extra fix. i advise you skip your tests for now, unless you target v8.


edit: i noted all the results after a full day of mining, and all new features are good but heavy on modern cards, probably a back regression due to the hd7000 perf restore. i got good results after 1h of mining but the 24h average is 1% lower, i need to fix that.
on hd7000 the b10 is 2% better than b9 and on Zen i got the 0.6% extra perf too. same for v8 on rx about 0.4%
if you're only targetting heavy on RX, skip b10 for now.
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