Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section?

[Flying Hellfish]

Are you applying? I would vote for you.

Thanks!  I've "thrown my hat in the ring" as they say.

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[criptix]

Politics & Society is trash. People go there, look at a headline, and post a few sentences of their first gut reaction without reading any of the other replies. Who here is up to the task of moderating the section in order to remove this garbage, but without hampering the free exchange of ideas there? It'll be tough, since I do want to hear the thoughts of people who can't speak perfect English, people with extreme/offensive ideas, people who are rude while still making legitimate points, etc. So it'll be a difficult balancing act.

Post in this thread if you're interested so I can see other people's comments on you.

Here are the top 20 reporters in that section over the last 90 days:

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| realName        | Non-bad reports |
+-----------------+-----------------+
| Flying Hellfish |             257 |
| rickbig41       |              40 |
| Foxpup          |              29 |
| otrkid70        |              22 |
| LoyceV          |              15 |
| Vod             |              12 |
| BTCMILLIONAIRE  |               7 |
| Sithara007      |               5 |
| marlboroza      |               5 |
| coolcoinz       |               4 |
| iasenko         |               3 |
| lucario21       |               2 |
| bitperson       |               2 |
| nullius         |               2 |
| Xal0lex         |               2 |
| shaun98         |               1 |
| Kaneki Ken      |               1 |
| Be_Happy        |               1 |
| Wolfman15       |               1 |
| Rainbow1976     |               1 |
+-----------------+-----------------+

Hey theymos,

Make a list from 2-3 years ago - most normal posters stopped visiting politics&society a long while ago.

And also good stuff you finally decided to get a dedicated mod for the sub...

[Flying Hellfish]

Angry pinoy. note about the level-headed. could you find the original post to read what it says after "I do believe in Jesus, I do"? that part edited out by level headed is the core of the lonely virgin's whole belief system. but it was censored, why?

Dude
1)  You know full well I don't have ANY way of censoring your posts on the forum.
2)  Snipping a quote is common place, not censoring and something I've seen you do many times.  BTW snipping quotes is actually considered common courtesy so we don't end up with long eyesore posts that require 5 mins to scroll through.  This actually affects some users ability to read posts.

[Astargath]

Angry pinoy. note about the level-headed. could you find the original post to read what it says after "I do believe in Jesus, I do"? that part edited out by level headed is the core of the lonely virgin's whole belief system. but it was censored, why?

Why are you now responding with an alt rather than your main account?

(for the record, I do believe in Jesus, I do believe him to be alive and to be one of the God's prophets. I believe that he is the saviour of humanity like the grandson of the last prophet)
I do fear God and ask forgiveness every day of my life. I'm 29 years old and a true virgin. lol if you want.  I do make mistakes and would try to fix them and improve myself. I have nothing to offer to this world, that is why I'm trying to make a difference.

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Go make a difference.

I would suggest if any of you are serious about this job. at least make prepare 20-30 different users and different posts [...]

Having over 200 good reports isn't being serious enough?

It's also senseless to ask for posts by high-ranked members. Spam is spam, regardless of the origin. You'll find plenty of spammers that have high activity/rank. Moreover, the act of seeking out high-rank spamposts is not a key part of a moderator's duties.

moving irrelevant topics. deleting off topic replies. I don't care if you worship the devil, just don't invite people to do the same by providing specific details such as posting links to websites asking people how and where to go and what to do in order to worship the devil.

That is against free speech and you are using biased opinions.

or you all want to get on with your lives, only having the perks of a moderator, not spending time dedicating your lives to your "job"? it's not even a job for you. how could you moderate hundreds of thousands of posts without spending time as a full job?

Delete, delete, delete.

He wont allow people to post specific details about worshiping the devil but I'm sure he would have no problem with religious nutjobs providing specific details on why and how they should believe in their god. This guy should not moderate anything at all.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

worshiping the devil

I've been called "angry pinoy" before, and I had to look up what "pinoy" meant.  I assume people here know I'm not Filipino if they've read any of my past posts.  I don't get where that moniker comes from, but whatever. 

I'm not quite sure what digaran is shooting for here, but he's not likely to win the mod job....if that's what he wants.  It's hard to tell.

[digaran]

Angry pinoy. note about the level-headed. could you find the original post to read what it says after "I do believe in Jesus, I do"? that part edited out by level headed is the core of the lonely virgin's whole belief system. but it was censored, why?

Why are you now responding with an alt rather than your main account?

(for the record, I do believe in Jesus, I do believe him to be alive and to be one of the God's prophets. I believe that he is the saviour of humanity like the grandson of the last prophet)
I do fear God and ask forgiveness every day of my life. I'm 29 years old and a true virgin. lol if you want.  I do make mistakes and would try to fix them and improve myself. I have nothing to offer to this world, that is why I'm trying to make a difference.

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Go make a difference.

I would suggest if any of you are serious about this job. at least make prepare 20-30 different users and different posts [...]

Having over 200 good reports isn't being serious enough?

It's also senseless to ask for posts by high-ranked members. Spam is spam, regardless of the origin. You'll find plenty of spammers that have high activity/rank. Moreover, the act of seeking out high-rank spamposts is not a key part of a moderator's duties.

moving irrelevant topics. deleting off topic replies. I don't care if you worship the devil, just don't invite people to do the same by providing specific details such as posting links to websites asking people how and where to go and what to do in order to worship the devil.

That is against free speech and you are using biased opinions.

or you all want to get on with your lives, only having the perks of a moderator, not spending time dedicating your lives to your "job"? it's not even a job for you. how could you moderate hundreds of thousands of posts without spending time as a full job?

Delete, delete, delete.

He wont allow people to post specific details about worshiping the devil but I'm sure he would have no problem with religious nutjobs providing specific details on why and how they should believe in their god. This guy should not moderate anything at all.

If you are not sure. if you don't have any evidence of me having no problem with "religious nutjobs" providing details etc. you are assuming something without any evidence. I wouldn't count on your vote.  especially not after voting yes for my competition.
Are you telling me that a mod should care what people are worshipping? I don't care. as long as they are not recruiting for ISIS. or inviting people to watch child pornography. or giving you the address of a girl and asking you to rape her and get paid money for it.

You didn't have the time to properly quote actmyname did you? look at the last part where you have added "Delete, delete, delete"
You are supporting somebody else. because? again there is no explanation. what you have against me is your assumption.

worshiping the devil

I've been called "angry pinoy" before, and I had to look up what "pinoy" meant.  I assume people here know I'm not Filipino if they've read any of my past posts.  I don't get where that moniker comes from, but whatever.  

I'm not quite sure what digaran is shooting for here, but he's not likely to win the mod job....if that's what he wants.  It's hard to tell.

I like the part where you said: "whatever".  I'm shooting for some easy fishes here, isn't that obvious? it's not hard at all. forum is hiring a mod, I'm here to apply. if forum doesn't have enough money to pay. I will do whatever I can to help without any payment. just don't expect me to stop joking with my main account. and I will not forgive you if I find out that you were enslaving me whilst sharing forum's wealth among yourselves, sharing alia with each other knowing that I was in urgent need of mingling. I'm laughing now at myself. that means I'm delusional and unfit?

Please don't expect me to provide examples on such a short notice. as I said it before, I am not going to delete posts as soon as I get a report. I would need to investigate user's profiles and their post history. I'm not like some people wishing to have a delete button to push a few times and then start building a cartel using my power to get rich fast.

EDIT: look at my mistake now, I didn't read carefully and attacked the user because I was stupid to not pay attention, I was in a hurry to defend my case. I'm sorry. but I didn't merit you because of that, I was just back reading the posts to see how big of an idiot I am. it was only a reaction because you were being unfair. I have made my mistake red.

[actmyname]

Are you telling me that a mod should care what people are worshipping? I don't care. as long as they are not recruiting for ISIS. or inviting people to watch child pornography. or giving you the address of a girl and asking you to rape her and get paid money for it.

You don't care? Really? Is that true?

I wouldn't trust somebody if he/she has no fear of God. I know for a fact that administration and staff team of this forum don't like somebody talking about our saviour like that. (for the record, I do believe in Jesus, I do believe him to be alive and to be one of the God's prophets. I believe that he is the saviour of humanity like the grandson of the last prophet)

Doesn't seem like it.

If you don't believe in a supernatural God and the afterlife, it doesn't make you automatically untrustworthy, it makes you potentially untrustworthy.

You have some serious prejudices regarding what people are or aren't worshipping. That doesn't seem very objective to me.

[bitcoin revo]

The fact that even theymos simply raising the topic of a mod turns into a shitstorm of this petty, petty namecalling speaks about the quality of discussions on this forum.

[digaran]

Are you telling me that a mod should care what people are worshipping? I don't care. as long as they are not recruiting for ISIS. or inviting people to watch child pornography. or giving you the address of a girl and asking you to rape her and get paid money for it.

You don't care? Really? Is that true?

If you don't believe in a supernatural God and the afterlife, it doesn't make you automatically untrustworthy, it makes you potentially untrustworthy.

You have some serious prejudices regarding what people are or aren't worshipping. That doesn't seem very objective to me.

If I don't trust you, should I delete your post? should I care what you worship as a moderator as long as you are not breaking any of the rules of this forum?
You confused my point. there is a time when I'm talking about my own opinions and beliefs, and when I'm talking about as if I'm a moderator. if I'm a mod, I wouldn't care if you worship alia's slot. just don't post a picture of it without NSFW tag. don't confuse my personality with my objectivity.

It would be easier for me to visit that section and start reporting obvious garbage posts, don't wait for them. I will improve myself in the process of moderating, anybody claiming to know what is the best method of dealing with garbage posts and tries to stick to it, refuses to improve it. is a lier.

@Astargath please stop embarrassing yourself. I don't do merit exchange, so forgetting that you have merited me doesn't mean that I will never merit you.
@theymos, please ignore my first post in this topic, where I said that I should be a mod because I'm a source. it is stupid to ask that, it was a joke because in reputation section people said that I should act like a staff member. no I don't want any compensation for being a source, reading some posts is what I should do normally.


Main reason for not reporting a lot of garbage posts. every time I did that, my own posts got deleted as a thank you.

[marlboroza]

It would be easier for me to visit that section and start reporting obvious garbage posts, don't wait for them. I will improve myself in the process of moderating, anybody claiming to know what is the best method of dealing with garbage posts and tries to stick to it, refuses to improve it. is a lier.

I wouldn't give you to paint my walls in white.
I would pick one of:
Fish guy, because he has impressive amount of non-bad reports.
Loyce, because he is very active in reporting plagiarism and probably other things.
Vod, he has tagged many users for spamming and c/p, probably would be better to allow him to remove such posts?
Others, i don't know, Foxpup is not very active, otkrid70 was hacked, rickbig41 is global mod, shittara007 is yobit spammer - hit'n'run 20 posts in 1.5 hour and repeat every day, and as for me I don't even know how I end up on that list, I don't even read politics neither I remember reporting anything there.
To be honest last 11 reporters have less reported posts together than it is number in "top 20 reporters".

[bill gator]

Make a list from 2-3 years ago - most normal posters stopped visiting politics&society

Why would that list be relevant in any which way?
If they have stopped visiting the sub and haven't reported a post within the last 3-months, then why would that matter?

[Lehbane]

The application thread for moderator on P&S become a debating session, I believe this was created to look for a mod?
Not to insult each other ?

[bill gator]

The application thread for moderator on P&S become a debating session

Yes, imagine a world where people have opposing viewpoints and seek to resolve them through discussion. What a crazy world that would be. People become impassioned through their opinions and often this will manifest itself through exaggeration expression. People are not always going to like what other people have to say about them, but if we're going to have an honest discussion then we have to risk people feeling insulted; there is no other way.

This is not simply an application thread, but a thread where we discuss the prospects and share our opinions about them. theymos said it directly, but I'm not sure that you've read the OP.

[Welsh]

The application thread for moderator on P&S become a debating session, I believe this was created to look for a mod?
Not to insult each other ?

It may have gone a little off topic in some regards, but I still think it's relevant to theymos who has to articulate an opinion on those who are applying. Some of the view points of the members "insulting" each other would have likely helped him in identifying a good mod who is going to try their best to not censor users whilst dealing with spam.

To be honest last 11 reporters have less reported posts together than it is number in "top 20 reporters".

This is why ideally we would want someone who is very active in the section already as it appears there isn't a whole lot of reports and the moderator can't rely on them. Of course, once this section has a dedicated moderator this will likely change. Not only active in that section, but a user who is regular across the board and is online a fair amount to deal with any reports coming their way.

[digaran]

I know what the fish guy said in his post is not blasphemy. but if that post is reported following with similar posts but from other members and becomes a habit. if I'm a mod I will not just delete the posts of other members and give the fish guy a pass. I don't do favors.

Bitcointalk has always been a Christian-based forum and we do not tolerate blasphemy and nobody makes fun of JC on my watch.

Note that I'm not Christian, maybe forum is strict on hiring moderators based on their religions? but I'm not going to decide about what should and shouldn't be deleted based on my religious beliefs. I was giving the rest of my resume here. isn't that what people usually do when they are applying for a job? I'm not asking to give me 1000 Bitcoins and say that you all should trust me. but all you did was saying that I shouldn't be trusted as if a moderator couldn't be reported to the administration and be kicked out.

Low rank or high rank, blasphemy if reported by anybody or I see it myself, I should delete it.
If you worship alia, and I say that I wish to jump her, would you consider that as blasphemy?
When I point these examples out, why would you say I'm biased or I'm using biased opinions or that what I'd say is considered to be unacceptable everywhere and not just here?

What is wrong with following the rules and enforcing them?
I have reported some obvious cash grab attempts by newbies copy-pasting the usual script from other ICOs and then saying 1000 tokens= $5 buy now with discounts. what is the token? it's better than Bitcoin and Millions of merchants already accept our token. we have a buy back plan to buy them for 1000 tokens= $500 after selling %70 of the total supply. if you want to receive airdrop, you should advertise for us first and we will pay you after we have collected the money.

Sometimes they'd get deleted and sometimes I don't even check.
There is no difference here, don't copy-paste and don't repeat the same thing after 10 pages. you are not going to spend hours to read some of the pages and see if people are repeating exactly whatever is in the previous pages? like now I have to repeat myself. because you all think that I'm a worthless foreigner with radical beliefs.

Guys wake up, you even tried to have me removed as a merit source to put one of your own in my place. you bump a source application every few days like it's your right to be a source. you guys questioned theymos and blamed him for making me a source saying it was a mistake.

You can't keep the "power" for yourselves. you will soon become irrelevant to this community if you continue like this.
Answer my questions, why some of you wear your copper membership whilst being extremely counterproductive for this forum and community? why some of you are supporting somebody who is not in need of a full time job and admits to only moderate when he is online. he doesn't care for the people, he wants to delete their posts, they will post more garbage to get paid.

What he wants is playing by his book, refusing to question authorities, is not interested to play fair, doesn't want a moderator job without it's perks.

What I am offering is to have no perks, no power, no trust for money or business. I offered to work for free 2 or 3 hours a day and using my position for my own personal gains. those are my terms if you want me to work for free. after a few weeks you could kick me out if you are not satisfied. you could all monitor every move I make as a mod, and I want to be on DT1 so none of you could touch me.

Or pay less than you are paying other mods, don't give me any position in DT status. you could all monitor my work for a few weeks and then kick me out without payment if you are not satisfied. if you are satisfied then we all win. there is no loser in my scenario.

Who do you think you are digirin? you are a terrorist helping your terrorist buddies and you want to paint my walls white? noway. GTFO we don't want to read your wall of text. we want only this one. not you. who cares what you are offering digiran. we don't like you man. let us proceed as we'd planned.

Where did this digaran come from? he looks like that guy from years back. look at his red trust. he was a scammer people note to my hint.
He is a nobody, he doesn't know how to suck. he is rude to jump in a business of ours. even if he is a good choice, we shouldn't let him to be a mod without pledging his loyalty to us.

[stompix]

I wonder why we should still keep that section as it is.

The only part that should be saved in my opinion would be the "Polictics" so either leave "Politics" alone or move it to the Ivory Tower and then try to moderate the so called society part which is a spam fest and it's still going to be one even with a moderator.

"Society" is just like "anything can fit in here"  

There is
Electric Cars - The future ?  in P&S and Will the electric car destroy the petrol car? in Off-topic.

Where should discussions about electric cars go  

[digaran]

I wonder why we should still keep that section as it is.

The only part that should be saved in my opinion would be the "Polictics" so either leave "Politics" alone or move it to the Ivory Tower and then try to moderate the so called society part which is a spam fest and it's still going to be one even with a moderator.

"Society" is just like "anything can fit in here"  

There is
Electric Cars - The future ?  in P&S and Will the electric car destroy the petrol car? in Off-topic.

Where should discussions about electric cars go  

To P & S. it is not just about the cars. it has everything to do with politics. global warming. oil reserves. big companies profits. what could be achieved for the world by using those cars etc.

[Jet Cash]

Where should discussions about electric cars go  

In politics. All electric cars do is to export pollutin out of the cities and into the countryside. In the process there are more hrmful to the environment. It is very much a political decision designed to save the motor industry and provide governments with more control of personal transport.

Dammit, now electric cars have moved into Meta as well.

Serious comment- there are two aspects. The political control, and the technical development, and it may be that those should be on different boards.

[stompix]

To P & S. it is not just about the cars. it has everything to do with politics. global warming. oil reserves. big companies profits. what could be achieved for the world by using those cars etc.

Yeah, too bad the last pages on those topics are a bit short on touching those aspects....

In politics. All electric cars do is to export pollutin out of the cities and into the countryside. In the process there are more hrmful to the environment. It is very much a political decision designed to save the motor industry and provide governments with more control of personal transport.

Dammit, now electric cars have moved into Meta as well.

Serious comment- there are two aspects. The political control, and the technical development, and it may be that those should be on different boards.

Which is exactly my point, we have a very serious discussion and probably a lot more in that area that are buried by useless posts, and mods can't do anything about those as I doubt somebody will start deleting two and three liners that bring nothing new to the discussion.

In my opinion that area can't be really cleaned by just nuking and locking threads, if we want to really save it I think the only solution would be the move it to the "Serious Discussion" or something like that.

[marlboroza]

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Who do you think you are digirin? you are a terrorist helping your terrorist buddies and you want to paint my walls white? noway. GTFO we don't want to read your wall of text. we want only this one. not you. who cares what you are offering digiran. we don't like you man. let us proceed as we'd planned.

Where did this digaran come from? he looks like that guy from years back. look at his red trust. he was a scammer people note to my hint.
He is a nobody, he doesn't know how to suck. he is rude to jump in a business of ours. even if he is a good choice, we shouldn't let him to be a mod without pledging his loyalty to us.

It was just a joke, one expression which we use in my country when we think someone is not doing his job properly or they won't be able to do job properly - which means, I don't think you will be good moderator.
I am sorry if that insulted you, but terrorist? Now that is fucked.
I never called you terrorist, so how about stop putting words in my mouth?