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June 07, 2018, 02:51:57 PM
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Dota2 Supermajor Update

Team Liquid beat Team Secret with 2:0.

PSG.LGD surprisingly defeat Virtus.pro with 2:0 and send them into the lower bracket. Now PSG.LGD have to face Team Liquid in the semi-final.

Optic need a victory to secure a spot in the Dota2 Intenational.
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Team Liquid - the BEST!  Cool China SuperMajor gives me thrills ...  Shocked
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June 08, 2018, 08:06:12 AM
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Hello everyone!

The following eSports events will be offered Live today on Buff88:

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I got scammed from buff88.com.

I started to play buff88.com few weeks ago, and I played live casino. I was just normal player who played with small amount of bitcoin.
One day, my account couldn't access the live casino. (I was able to login, but unable to open live casino) So, I asked admin from Telegram Group Chat about that and buff88.com customer support sent me an email as following:


https://i.imgur.com/03W0rnL.jpg


As you can see on the Email, I was suddenly blocked from accessing live casino, without any full explanation. They just mentioned the reason was business decision. What the hell is business decision?
(Fact No.1)Because I have won some winning from the casino, blocked me from accessing live casino. As you can see from here, if you win from this website, they will just block you.

At this time I didn't know making new account is violating terms and conditions. Seriously!!! Who reads full terms and conditions when signing up an account?
If multiple account registration is violating the terms and conditions, they should have put notification message when signing up new account or shouldn't accept new account if registered.
Since I wasn't fully aware of making new account is violating terms and conditions, I created new account and played live casino again. And this time, I didn't win that much, I mostly lost money to casino. So, there was no issue came up from buff88.com. (Fact No.2) No issue comes up if you lose money from the buff88.com!

One day, I played live casino just like usually I played, and I made withdrawal request, and it took longer than before, so I asked Admin from Telegram Chat and they wrote me an email as following:


https://i.imgur.com/Xo8gri8.jpg


At this time, withdrawal amount was small, so I think they have approved my request. And they have mentioned about I have account "B" and "C", and they have suspended "B" account.
Well, I have created new account (Account "C"), but "B" Account they have suspended was account of my colleague's from my company. I told my colleague about buff88.com (I thought this site was great and told him to check it out). Since our company have 1 main IP address for outbound, Buff88.com thought these were all my accounts.
As you can see in above email, they just have suspended "B" account and let "C" account to be accessible. So, I kept playing casino.

By the way, my original account was "A" and I have played with same IP address, but in this email they have not mentioned anything about it.

While I was playing live casino, I lost some money. Actually I kept lost. I was depositing about 100 Euro worth of bitcoin for multiple times and lost all. I thought the reason I lost was because my seed money was too little to play black jack. So, I deposited about 500 Euro worth of bitcoin to play blackjack, and this time I was lucky to win about 1400 Euro worth of bitcoin, so I made withdrawal request for 1100 Euro worth of bitcoin and about 30 Euro worth of bitcoin remained in account. After few minutes, my account was suddenly locked. When I tried to login it said my account was locked, so I asked Admin from Telegram group chat about it, and this below email is what I received from the Support team.


https://i.imgur.com/5p73HAs.jpg


When I tried to withdraw money that I won playing casino after making deposit with more money than I used to, they blocked my account and took all the money away.
(Fact No.3) They wait until you deposit more money than used to deposit, or lose more money!!

In this email, they mentioned about Account "B" which they already suspended and Account "A" which is my original account which blocked to access live casino.
As you can see from the email, they said about "Same Casino Betting Patterns". How can this betting pattern consider as fraud?

https://i.imgur.com/0BeRCJ0.jpg


Is there some sort of betting pattern to deceive money from casino??

In term 9.7 in above email, they have right to withhold or decline any pay-out or winning amount. There is no mention about original deposited money.


While I was in shock, they have sent additional email as following:


https://i.imgur.com/eWjQ7Bu.jpg


They said my previous account exceeds by half the amount of the latest deposit not being lost, so they were saying "no refund of original deposited money about 500 Euro worth of bitcoin"

Now all of you can see from this email, they just stole my money! As I said this website is scam, here is the proof of that!

I replied to this email saying that I lost alot of money before and the winning they took away didn't cover what I lost. And I wanted my money to be withdrawned.

Then I got following reply from them:


https://i.imgur.com/7CPLMDi.jpg


They calculated the total amount of withdrawal from existing accounts and only calculated deposited money from the lastest one. They just didn't care about how much money you have spent in this casino, they just care about how much money you have taken from the casino.

So I replied to this email saying that why don't they add all the deposit that I made previously with existing accounts and asked for refund again.

And following email was the final reply I received:


https://i.imgur.com/5OYZVJ9.jpg


They just ingnored my reply and stole my money. and This is FACT!!

I understand that I have violated terms and condition of this website which I wasn't fully aware of, so I totally agree with taking all the pay-out or winnings from the lastest game that I played, but they should reimburse orginal deposited amount which is 500 Euro worth of bitcoin! Otherwise buff88.com is admitting themselve they are scam website and stealing money from their customers!









Give me my money back!!!
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June 08, 2018, 02:14:22 PM
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As you can see on the Email, I was suddenly blocked from accessing live casino, without any full explanation. They just mentioned the reason was business decision. What the hell is business decision?
They can block you whenever they like and they are also not obligated to give you a reason as long as they pay your winnings and process your account balance.

However, blocking someone from casino games where they have a house edge on you appear to be stupid or did you find a way to exploid their live casino system?
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June 08, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
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Match of the day!
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Today in an amazing turnaround Astralis defeated Cloud9 with 16:13 on Inferno. It took place in the ECS Season 5 Finals.

Things weren't looking good for Astralis in the end of the first half, which finished with 3:12 in favor of Cloud9, however the Danish team kept their cool and performed amazingly in the second half where they scored 13:1.
This is why maintaining mental fortitude in such critical moments is key in achieving victory!
Well played, Astralis!

Good luck in the next match!
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June 09, 2018, 05:38:39 PM
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As you can see on the Email, I was suddenly blocked from accessing live casino, without any full explanation. They just mentioned the reason was business decision. What the hell is business decision?
They can block you whenever they like and they are also not obligated to give you a reason as long as they pay your winnings and process your account balance.

However, blocking someone from casino games where they have a house edge on you appear to be stupid or did you find a way to exploid their live casino system?
No I didn't exploit their live casino system. All I did was just played live blackjack (unlimited blackjack game which every player plays with 1 hand against dealer) and won some small amount of winnings.
Also, how can anyone exploit live casino game? It is impossible!
What do you think about they taking my deposited money because of the multiple accounts? I fully understand they have right to not pay me any winnings, due to violation of terms and conditions. But, don't they have to give my money (original deposited amount) back?
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June 09, 2018, 06:12:34 PM
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How does making multiple accounts makes it fraudulent???
Did I get any profits or benefits from creating new accounts???
Does making new account give more chance to win from your live casino?

I have checked out other online bitcoin casino websites, and they have similar terms and conditions about multiple accounts.
But, they have that terms and conditions because they give out bonus bitcoin when they deposit for the first time and certain amount on every deposit.
So, if someone make multiple accounts, that means that person can get multiple bonuses.

But! in buff88.com you do not give any bonuses for bitcoin deposit!! I never got any bonus! So how does it make that fraudulent?

Didn't you see the definition of Fraudulent that I have posted?

Fraudulent : obtained, done by, or involving deception, especially criminal deception.


How can making multiple accounts without getting any bonuses harm your service? Did I try to steal your money with deception?
Is it even possible to decept or cheat live casino?? Do I have x-ray vision to see next card appears in black jack? or Do I have special power to travel time, so I can go to future to see what cards will appear?

You should just admit that you have blocked me because I was too lucky and won money from your website!

And probably you will look for any small violations of players who won money from your website to block them and steal their money!

As I have said many times before, I want my original deposited money back! which is about 500 Euro worth of bitcoin!!!
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June 09, 2018, 07:56:18 PM
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No I didn't exploit their live casino system. All I did was just played live blackjack (unlimited blackjack game which every player plays with 1 hand against dealer) and won some small amount of winnings.
Also, how can anyone exploit live casino game? It is impossible!
What do you think about they taking my deposited money because of the multiple accounts? I fully understand they have right to not pay me any winnings, due to violation of terms and conditions. But, don't they have to give my money (original deposited amount) back?
First of all, Buff88 is an illegal casino without valid license! Illegal casinos can not have juridical valid terms and conditions!

Hence, whatever reference to "their" terms and conditions is nonsense!

Despite of this, if they do not want that you open a second account, then they need to check when you register and give your deposit back. Taking your bets is accepting your account, beause you can not accept bets from an account you did not accept! Logically?

But what Buff88 does is the typical fraud scheme many other shady casinos do as well:

1) They let you deposit without any controls

2) As long as you lose no problem if you have 1000 accounts, breached their juridical not valid terms and conditions or whatever. I at least never heard that a casino checked an account after a loss, discovered it is a multiple account and gave the loss back. But if the playing activity was not valid, they have of course also give losses back and not only winnings!

3) Only if you win, then they suddenly feel the necessity to check your account and confiscate your balance. Cheesy
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June 09, 2018, 11:25:53 PM
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If multiple account registration is violating the terms and conditions, they should have put notification message when signing up new account or shouldn't accept new account if registered.
Since I wasn't fully aware of making new account is violating terms and conditions, I created new account and played live casino again.

This is from their ToS:
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One personal single account pertaining to one domestic household address or IP address, opened by an individual and maintained with us to enable that person to play games on the Online Casino/Sportsbook
It says 1 account per person.

You agreed to their ToS when you registered account. You ticked "I am over 18 years old and I agree with the Mandatory Rules and Conditions". Why did you break ToS which you agreed on? Better question is - why did you register account if you didn't agree with their ToS?
Makes no sense.

They limited you access to casino and you thought it is good idea to evade that with new account.  Roll Eyes
I wonder if brick and mortar casino says "don't you ever come back", would you wear mustache and glass mask and come back again?

But to be honest, I am curios why they limited games for you?
@Buff88 can you reply?


On side note
First of all, Buff88 is an illegal casino without valid license! Illegal casinos can not have juridical valid terms and conditions!

Hence, whatever reference to "their" terms and conditions is nonsense!
Don't listen to game protect.

He FREE advertise unlicensed casino BitcoinRush, according to him - no valid license = ToS is nonsense and with that said according to GP this part of BitcoinRush's ToS We ask that minors not use the site for gambling is nonsense. Game protect obviously want minors to gamble.  Roll Eyes
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On side note
First of all, Buff88 is an illegal casino without valid license! Illegal casinos can not have juridical valid terms and conditions!

Hence, whatever reference to "their" terms and conditions is nonsense!
Don't listen to game protect.

He FREE advertise unlicensed casino BitcoinRush, according to him - no valid license = ToS is nonsense and with that said according to GP this part of BitcoinRush's ToS We ask that minors not use the site for gambling is nonsense. Game protect obviously want minors to gamble.  Roll Eyes
I said the reference is nonsense. Roll Eyes

I spoke in reference to Buff88 and not BitcoinRush! Roll Eyes

Where exactly does Game Protect state it wants minors to gamble? Roll Eyes

Minors gambling is automatically regulated in the civil and criminal laws of the applicable jurisdiction!

Attention! marlboroza promotes FortuneJack with anonymous accounts and herewith encourages minors to gamble! Cheesy
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June 10, 2018, 09:04:54 AM
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No I didn't exploit their live casino system. All I did was just played live blackjack (unlimited blackjack game which every player plays with 1 hand against dealer) and won some small amount of winnings.
Also, how can anyone exploit live casino game? It is impossible!
What do you think about they taking my deposited money because of the multiple accounts? I fully understand they have right to not pay me any winnings, due to violation of terms and conditions. But, don't they have to give my money (original deposited amount) back?
First of all, Buff88 is an illegal casino without valid license! Illegal casinos can not have juridical valid terms and conditions!

Hence, whatever reference to "their" terms and conditions is nonsense!

Despite of this, if they do not want that you open a second account, then they need to check when you register and give your deposit back. Taking your bets is accepting your account, beause you can not accept bets from an account you did not accept! Logically?

But what Buff88 does is the typical fraud scheme many other shady casinos do as well:

1) They let you deposit without any controls

2) As long as you lose no problem if you have 1000 accounts, breached their juridical not valid terms and conditions or whatever. I at least never heard that a casino checked an account after a loss, discovered it is a multiple account and gave the loss back. But if the playing activity was not valid, they have of course also give losses back and not only winnings!

3) Only if you win, then they suddenly feel the necessity to check your account and confiscate your balance. Cheesy


I totally agree with what you have mentioned about typical fraud scheme.

When you register account to certain website which doesn't require detail information such as personal information but only requires email address, who read all of the Terms and Condition? Seriously?

If making multiple accounts were very seriously issue, the website should have notified or made unable to create additional account with same IP or same person.

And losing money with additional account is no problem. Why is that?? Hmm, because the buff88.com makes money from that.

But losing money, which mean player win money from the casino turns to very serious problem and starting to using terms and conditions against player.

This is just SCAM!




This is from their ToS:
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One personal single account pertaining to one domestic household address or IP address, opened by an individual and maintained with us to enable that person to play games on the Online Casino/Sportsbook
It says 1 account per person.

You agreed to their ToS when you registered account. You ticked "I am over 18 years old and I agree with the Mandatory Rules and Conditions". Why did you break ToS which you agreed on? Better question is - why did you register account if you didn't agree with their ToS?
Makes no sense.

They limited you access to casino and you thought it is good idea to evade that with new account.  Roll Eyes
I wonder if brick and mortar casino says "don't you ever come back", would you wear mustache and glass mask and come back again?

As I have wrote previously, I didn't even know making multiple accounts were against terms and conditions.

As I have wrote above this quote, When you register account to certain website which doesn't require detail information such as personal information but only requires email address, who read all of the Terms and Condition? Seriously?

Buff88.com have limited my account to access casino without proper and full explanation. But at the same time they told me that I can still access the sports betting. Also  they have not mentioned anything about making new accounts is against terms and condition.

In terms and conditions of buff88.com, there is no part that buff88.com can limit players access to live casino due to business reason. So, this mean buff88.com have violated terms and conditions at the first time.

In Fortunejack.com, do you confiscate player's winning and original deposited money if you find that player have breached terms and conditions? or do you just confiscate winnings and reimburse original deposited money back to player?



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June 10, 2018, 11:49:39 AM
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On side note
First of all, Buff88 is an illegal casino without valid license! Illegal casinos can not have juridical valid terms and conditions!

Hence, whatever reference to "their" terms and conditions is nonsense!

Don't listen to game protect.

He FREE advertise unlicensed casino BitcoinRush, according to him - no valid license = ToS is nonsense and with that said according to GP this part of BitcoinRush's ToS We ask that minors not use the site for gambling is nonsense. Game protect obviously want minors to gamble.  Roll Eyes
I said the reference is nonsense. Roll Eyes
I spoke in reference to Buff88 and not BitcoinRush! Roll Eyes
Where exactly does Game Protect state it wants minors to gamble? Roll Eyes
Minors gambling is automatically regulated in the civil and criminal laws of the applicable jurisdiction!
So you do agree that bitcoinrush's(which you are FREE advertising) ToS is nonsense.

As I have wrote previously, I didn't even know making multiple accounts were against terms and conditions.
It is clearly stated in their ToS.
As I have wrote above this quote, When you register account to certain website which doesn't require detail information such as personal information but only requires email address, who read all of the Terms and Condition? Seriously?
This is not excuse for breaking ToS.
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At this time, withdrawal amount was small, so I think they have approved my request. And they have mentioned about I have account "B" and "C", and they have suspended "B" account.
Well, I have created new account (Account "C"), but "B" Account they have suspended was account of my colleague's from my company.
Whos account is account A?
So you violated their ToS with 2 accounts, they limited one account, banned the other one and then you created third account?
You are basically saying it is OK for you to break ToS but if they enforce the same terms it is not OK.



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Since our company have 1 main IP address for outbound, Buff88.com thought these were all my accounts.
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One personal single account pertaining to one domestic household address or IP address

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In Fortunejack.com, do you confiscate player's winning and original deposited money if you find that player have breached terms and conditions? or do you just confiscate winnings and reimburse original deposited money back to player?
You should ask that FortuneJack's support.
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June 11, 2018, 02:06:37 AM
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As I have wrote previously, I didn't even know making multiple accounts were against terms and conditions.
It is clearly stated in their ToS.
As I have wrote above this quote, When you register account to certain website which doesn't require detail information such as personal information but only requires email address, who read all of the Terms and Condition? Seriously?
This is not excuse for breaking ToS.
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At this time, withdrawal amount was small, so I think they have approved my request. And they have mentioned about I have account "B" and "C", and they have suspended "B" account.
Well, I have created new account (Account "C"), but "B" Account they have suspended was account of my colleague's from my company.
Whos account is account A?
So you violated their ToS with 2 accounts, they limited one account, banned the other one and then you created third account?
You are basically saying it is OK for you to break ToS but if they enforce the same terms it is not OK.

https://i.imgur.com/YJ2kASg.png

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Since our company have 1 main IP address for outbound, Buff88.com thought these were all my accounts.
ToS:
One personal single account pertaining to one domestic household address or IP address

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In Fortunejack.com, do you confiscate player's winning and original deposited money if you find that player have breached terms and conditions? or do you just confiscate winnings and reimburse original deposited money back to player?
You should ask that FortuneJack's support.

I'm not denying that I have violated the terms and conditions of Buff88.com. Main point of what I'm saying here is that, 'is it legal to confiscate original deposited fund if you violate terms and condition?'.

As I have said many times in above, I totally understand buff88.com confiscated my winnings, but why don't they reimburse my original deposited fund which is about 500 euro worth of bitcoin!!

What is your opinion about this?

This is clearly proving that buff88.com is a scam site, because they stole my money!

And about the accounts question:

Account A - My First created account which got limited to accessing live casino but able to access sports bet
Account B - My Colleague Account which created in same IP range due to same outbound IP
Account C - My Second created account

Here is the step by step of the history.

1. While I was playing live casino with Account A (before I got limited from live casino) I told my colleague about buff88.com and he created Account B for him to play. At this time there was no problem at all.

2. One day, my Account A was limited to accessing live casino without any detail reason.

3. I created Account C (I didn't know making additional account was breaching terms and conditions at this time), and played live casino

4. One day, I receive email from buff88.com that I have registered account B and account C with same IP, so buff88.com have banned account B, but let account C to play. (At this point, I realized making multiple account is breaching terms and condition)
But, buff88.com have not banned account C, so I thought it was ok to play with and I continued to play.

5. With Account C, I kept lost money and there was no problem at all (Played for while)

6. One day, I decide to deposit about 500 euro worth bitcoin to play and I was lucky and I won some money from Black Jack and requested for withdrawal, and this time buff88.com blocked my account and stole all of my money.

When buff88.com found out that 2 accounts(B and C) are registered in same IP, they should have already know Account A was also registered in same IP. But they didn't do anything about it until I won money!

If buff88.com is very secured and legit online betting/casino, they should have blocked all of my accounts, but they have let me played and when I was losing, they just kept letting me play, but they suddenly blocked me when I won money.

What do you think this means? Do you think they just forgot to blocked me? from very secured website?? hmm..

This is what I think, buff88.com just waited until I deposit and lose certain amount of money before blocking my account.

Buff88.com need to reimburse my money as soon as possible!
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Hello everyone!

The following eSports events will be offered Live today on Buff88:

CS:GO
  • Ground Zero - Chiefs (CyberGamer) 11:00 CEST
  • Chiefs - Ground Zero (CyberGamer) 12:00 CEST
  • Dark Sided - AVANT (CyberGamer) 13:00 CEST
  • AVANT - Dark Sided (CyberGamer) 14:00 CEST
  • HOLLYWOOD - forZe (QIWI) 16:00 CEST
  • GODSENT - Royal Bandits (ESEA Premier EU) 18:00 CEST
  • Monolith - DreamEaters (QIWI) 20:00 CEST

League of Legends
  • JD Gaming - Invictus Gaming (LPL China) 11:00 CEST
  • Vici Gaming - Bilibili Gaming  (LPL China) 13:00 CEST


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Hi! How can we help you?

We have added a new feature on our site.

Facebook chat is now available on Buff88!

We hope it will further improve our sevice and our relationship with our users.

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As I have wrote previously, I didn't even know making multiple accounts were against terms and conditions.
It is clearly stated in their ToS.
As I have wrote above this quote, When you register account to certain website which doesn't require detail information such as personal information but only requires email address, who read all of the Terms and Condition? Seriously?
This is not excuse for breaking ToS.
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At this time, withdrawal amount was small, so I think they have approved my request. And they have mentioned about I have account "B" and "C", and they have suspended "B" account.
Well, I have created new account (Account "C"), but "B" Account they have suspended was account of my colleague's from my company.
Whos account is account A?
So you violated their ToS with 2 accounts, they limited one account, banned the other one and then you created third account?
You are basically saying it is OK for you to break ToS but if they enforce the same terms it is not OK.



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Since our company have 1 main IP address for outbound, Buff88.com thought these were all my accounts.
ToS:
One personal single account pertaining to one domestic household address or IP address

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In Fortunejack.com, do you confiscate player's winning and original deposited money if you find that player have breached terms and conditions? or do you just confiscate winnings and reimburse original deposited money back to player?
You should ask that FortuneJack's support.

I'm not denying that I have violated the terms and conditions of Buff88.com. Main point of what I'm saying here is that, 'is it legal to confiscate original deposited fund if you violate terms and condition?'.

As I have said many times in above, I totally understand buff88.com confiscated my winnings, but why don't they reimburse my original deposited fund which is about 500 euro worth of bitcoin!!

What is your opinion about this?

This is clearly proving that buff88.com is a scam site, because they stole my money!

And about the accounts question:

Account A - My First created account which got limited to accessing live casino but able to access sports bet
Account B - My Colleague Account which created in same IP range due to same outbound IP
Account C - My Second created account

Here is the step by step of the history.

1. While I was playing live casino with Account A (before I got limited from live casino) I told my colleague about buff88.com and he created Account B for him to play. At this time there was no problem at all.

2. One day, my Account A was limited to accessing live casino without any detail reason.

3. I created Account C (I didn't know making additional account was breaching terms and conditions at this time), and played live casino

4. One day, I receive email from buff88.com that I have registered account B and account C with same IP, so buff88.com have banned account B, but let account C to play. (At this point, I realized making multiple account is breaching terms and condition)
But, buff88.com have not banned account C, so I thought it was ok to play with and I continued to play.

5. With Account C, I kept lost money and there was no problem at all (Played for while)

6. One day, I decide to deposit about 500 euro worth bitcoin to play and I was lucky and I won some money from Black Jack and requested for withdrawal, and this time buff88.com blocked my account and stole all of my money.

When buff88.com found out that 2 accounts(B and C) are registered in same IP, they should have already know Account A was also registered in same IP. But they didn't do anything about it until I won money!

If buff88.com is very secured and legit online betting/casino, they should have blocked all of my accounts, but they have let me played and when I was losing, they just kept letting me play, but they suddenly blocked me when I won money.

What do you think this means? Do you think they just forgot to blocked me? from very secured website?? hmm..

This is what I think, buff88.com just waited until I deposit and lose certain amount of money before blocking my account.

Buff88.com need to reimburse my money as soon as possible!

The answer is very easy and simple.

As Buff88 let you continue using account C, knowing it is not your only account, then they can not later confiscate your deposit and winnings claiming breach of their T&C. This is standart civil law, because they explicitly allowed you using account C.

However, the scam scheme these shady operators commit is letting all accounts play as long as they lose and this totally independent of having the same IP or device.

Only in case of winnings, then suddenly the number of accounts or same IP plays a role! But in your case, as they explicitly allowed to continue using your account C, their claim has no legal basis at all.
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June 12, 2018, 01:47:22 AM
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I got scammed from buff88.com.

I started to play buff88.com few weeks ago, and I played live casino. I was just normal player who played with small amount of bitcoin.
One day, my account couldn't access the live casino. (I was able to login, but unable to open live casino) So, I asked admin from Telegram Group Chat about that and buff88.com customer support sent me an email as following:


https://i.imgur.com/03W0rnL.jpg


As you can see on the Email, I was suddenly blocked from accessing live casino, without any full explanation. They just mentioned the reason was business decision. What the hell is business decision?
(Fact No.1)Because I have won some winning from the casino, blocked me from accessing live casino. As you can see from here, if you win from this website, they will just block you.

At this time I didn't know making new account is violating terms and conditions. Seriously!!! Who reads full terms and conditions when signing up an account?
If multiple account registration is violating the terms and conditions, they should have put notification message when signing up new account or shouldn't accept new account if registered.
Since I wasn't fully aware of making new account is violating terms and conditions, I created new account and played live casino again. And this time, I didn't win that much, I mostly lost money to casino. So, there was no issue came up from buff88.com. (Fact No.2) No issue comes up if you lose money from the buff88.com!

One day, I played live casino just like usually I played, and I made withdrawal request, and it took longer than before, so I asked Admin from Telegram Chat and they wrote me an email as following:


https://i.imgur.com/Xo8gri8.jpg


At this time, withdrawal amount was small, so I think they have approved my request. And they have mentioned about I have account "B" and "C", and they have suspended "B" account.
Well, I have created new account (Account "C"), but "B" Account they have suspended was account of my colleague's from my company. I told my colleague about buff88.com (I thought this site was great and told him to check it out). Since our company have 1 main IP address for outbound, Buff88.com thought these were all my accounts.
As you can see in above email, they just have suspended "B" account and let "C" account to be accessible. So, I kept playing casino.

By the way, my original account was "A" and I have played with same IP address, but in this email they have not mentioned anything about it.

While I was playing live casino, I lost some money. Actually I kept lost. I was depositing about 100 Euro worth of bitcoin for multiple times and lost all. I thought the reason I lost was because my seed money was too little to play black jack. So, I deposited about 500 Euro worth of bitcoin to play blackjack, and this time I was lucky to win about 1400 Euro worth of bitcoin, so I made withdrawal request for 1100 Euro worth of bitcoin and about 30 Euro worth of bitcoin remained in account. After few minutes, my account was suddenly locked. When I tried to login it said my account was locked, so I asked Admin from Telegram group chat about it, and this below email is what I received from the Support team.


https://i.imgur.com/5p73HAs.jpg


When I tried to withdraw money that I won playing casino after making deposit with more money than I used to, they blocked my account and took all the money away.
(Fact No.3) They wait until you deposit more money than used to deposit, or lose more money!!

In this email, they mentioned about Account "B" which they already suspended and Account "A" which is my original account which blocked to access live casino.
As you can see from the email, they said about "Same Casino Betting Patterns". How can this betting pattern consider as fraud?

https://i.imgur.com/0BeRCJ0.jpg


Is there some sort of betting pattern to deceive money from casino??

In term 9.7 in above email, they have right to withhold or decline any pay-out or winning amount. There is no mention about original deposited money.


While I was in shock, they have sent additional email as following:


https://i.imgur.com/eWjQ7Bu.jpg


They said my previous account exceeds by half the amount of the latest deposit not being lost, so they were saying "no refund of original deposited money about 500 Euro worth of bitcoin"

Now all of you can see from this email, they just stole my money! As I said this website is scam, here is the proof of that!

I replied to this email saying that I lost alot of money before and the winning they took away didn't cover what I lost. And I wanted my money to be withdrawned.

Then I got following reply from them:


https://i.imgur.com/7CPLMDi.jpg


They calculated the total amount of withdrawal from existing accounts and only calculated deposited money from the lastest one. They just didn't care about how much money you have spent in this casino, they just care about how much money you have taken from the casino.

So I replied to this email saying that why don't they add all the deposit that I made previously with existing accounts and asked for refund again.

And following email was the final reply I received:


https://i.imgur.com/5OYZVJ9.jpg


They just ingnored my reply and stole my money. and This is FACT!!

I understand that I have violated terms and condition of this website which I wasn't fully aware of, so I totally agree with taking all the pay-out or winnings from the lastest game that I played, but they should reimburse orginal deposited amount which is 500 Euro worth of bitcoin! Otherwise buff88.com is admitting themselve they are scam website and stealing money from their customers!









Buff88.com!! Give me my money back!!!
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June 12, 2018, 06:28:17 AM
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Hello everyone!

The following eSports events will be offered Live today on Buff88:

CS:GO
  • Chiefs - Dark Sided (CyberGamer) 11:00 CEST
  • Dark Sided - Chiefs (CyberGamer) 12:00 CEST
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It’s Showmatch day!


UltraPlay will face X-bet in a Dota 2 match starting at 15:00 pm EEST

The match will be streamed here: https://www.twitch.tv/uccleague5

Who's gonna win today?

You can even place your bets here:
https://buff88.com/esports/dota-2-3693/showmatch-44137/match/1180411

Stay tuned and enjoy!
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