bitvegas bitads.net owner major scammer

[icecube]

Hello everyone,

I am Mitchell, owner of BitCoinInformation and also an admin on BitVegas. No one ever had a problem with us and when there was a problem it was always resolved. I just got an hilarious e-mail from ""Roger Epting" <bitcoininvestigation@aol.com>" which states the following:

From:
"Roger Epting" <bitcoininvestigation@aol.com>

To:
<admin@bitcoininformation.info>
Cc:

Sent:
Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:06:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject:
Bitcoin-ads.net


Hello, I just want to let you know we are doing an investigation on the owner of bitcoin-ads.net and BitVegas. Please provide us with any information if he hasn't followed up with any payments you are owed. Guy Kilgour, the owner of Bitvegas and bitcoin-ads.net is in legal trouble and we will need all the information if he has not paid.

Best Regards,
Roger Epting

Let me tell you, Guy Kilgour is not the real name of the owner of BitVegas and the @aol.com e-mail address makes it even more funnier. You are not trying to get anything back anymore icecube, you are trying to rip us off.

My reply to that e-mail was something that made me smile:

Hello Roger,
First of all, what the fuck is this? The owner of Bitcoin-ads, BitAds and BitVegas has always payed me and I never ever had any problems with him or his services. If this is about xcube7's ridiculous claim that we stole his Bitcoins, please contact the owner directly. He can provide all the proof needed to show you that this claim isn't based on any facts. Also, lol on your e-mail address.
  
Kind Regards,
The Owner of BitCoin Information

Hello, this is a part of a huge ongoing investigation and I have been having ongoing conversations with other people to help investigate. There is a group of us investigating his claims and getting all the information we can get. Sorry, but it is too late to deny these claims as we have all of your personal information and we will be taking legal action. Also this was not to be made public as we would like you to delete that post. It was posted in AIM to be able to contact us. Sorry, for the misunderstanding.

I'm sorry IceCube but unless you have something new to bring to the table. We consider this matter closed for the time being.

As far as I can see this is nothing more than an attack on BitVegas's reputation. We see that you have begun mass messaging people about this.

We are more than happy to undergo any investigation like the one mentioned above. Trust and reliability from our members is of upmost importance. It will help straighten everythign out.

I did some investigation early on due to my 0.22 BTC theft (obviously from murderscene), but can't be bothered anymore. Good luck.

Like I said earlier I was never informed by this issuie. If you provide your Minecraft username I can check the logs to see when, where, and why this happened. How come this issue never came up until now?

Your letting your own reputation falter. This message was never going to be made public, nor did anyone ask the sent admins to make it.

Many players had a larger balance, but that is irrelevant. Our biggest player (mLiberty) deposited 242 BTC.

I'm sorry BitVegas but all of your lies are having a huge downfall on your reputation.

The proof are in the PMs here. How much BTC have you dealt with him?

I never said I was (I wish I were, but I am not). But I do know that he never accused Murder as far as I know. I also said that I bet on the fact that he send more then you.

How much you want to bet. I have proof I sent 27 more BTC than him

Here's the proof anyways
bitvegas.net/deposit/?player=mliberty
bitvegas.net/deposit/?player=XCUBE7

Then you go to - For me https://blockchain.info/address/18uGrBZzRQ6L6mxKGwoGFcQUoF1ndWRsTz
For mliberty - https://blockchain.info/address/1A67eY2hBwRVWWiCXAxqXmP3M9NojGwH3D

Yeah, well I also had a guest acct so I actually deposited even more, but whatever.

As I posted before, he had deposited less BTC than me!

[Matoking]

Hello everyone,

I am Mitchell, owner of BitCoinInformation and also an admin on BitVegas. No one ever had a problem with us and when there was a problem it was always resolved. I just got an hilarious e-mail from ""Roger Epting" <bitcoininvestigation@aol.com>" which states the following:

E-mail message

Let me tell you, Guy Kilgour is not the real name of the owner of BitVegas and the @aol.com e-mail address makes it even more funnier. You are not trying to get anything back anymore icecube, you are trying to rip us off.

My reply to that e-mail was something that made me smile:

Hello Roger,
First of all, what the fuck is this? The owner of Bitcoin-ads, BitAds and BitVegas has always payed me and I never ever had any problems with him or his services. If this is about xcube7's ridiculous claim that we stole his Bitcoins, please contact the owner directly. He can provide all the proof needed to show you that this claim isn't based on any facts. Also, lol on your e-mail address.
  
Kind Regards,
The Owner of BitCoin Information

I received the same message except that the sender was identified as bitcoininvestigation@aim.com instead of bitcoininvestigation@aol.com

And for that matter, no, I haven't had any problems with either BitVegas or BitAds. BitAds has worked far better than Operation Fabulous for me.

[icecube]

I find it funny that he lies about his own name http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX_2VGdXv78

Watch the whole video to hear that he has hired a bitcoin lawyer! Haha Guy Kilgour. You don't even know all the information I have about you. Offline and online... Please pay me back! I know you are scamming me and my fellow players. As I've said before. I have all the proof I need.

He has his own channel here http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJOpBdPW9oYHvppoqA9b6Gw?feature=watch
Now watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25EzwaVumN8. WHAT DO YOU KNOW? HE IS GUY KILGOUR AGAIN!

Mitchell, I'm sorry he has betrayed you with his fake name. I'm very sorry...

[Mitchell]

*cough* You must be extremely deaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jX_2VGdXv78#t=1570
26.14 - 26.18: "Join us on the line is Paul, the creator and owner of BitVegas".
Also, the voice of the guy that you linked doesn't sound like him. It may be Australian, but that doesn't prove anything.

Stop making up stuff. It won't help you.

[icecube]

*cough* You must be extremely deaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jX_2VGdXv78#t=1570
26.14 - 26.18: "Join us on the line is Paul, the creator and owner of BitVegas".
Also, the voice of the guy that you linked doesn't sound like him. It may be Australian, but that doesn't prove anything.

Stop making up stuff. It won't help you.

Ok is this enough proof? MURDERSCENE=BITVEGAS ADMIN https://www.facebook.com/pages/Murderscene-Productions/152198601369?sk=info.

[Mitchell]

*cough* You must be extremely deaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jX_2VGdXv78#t=1570
26.14 - 26.18: "Join us on the line is Paul, the creator and owner of BitVegas".
Also, the voice of the guy that you linked doesn't sound like him. It may be Australian, but that doesn't prove anything.

Stop making up stuff. It won't help you.

Ok is this enough proof? MURDERSCENE=BITVEGAS ADMIN https://www.facebook.com/pages/Murderscene-Productions/152198601369?sk=info.

So a guy has a Facebook page which has the same name as the BitVegas Owner Minecraft name and you instantly assume that they are the same even when I just proved that his name is not Guy? Damn.
Oh look, here is his Twitter account! https://twitter.com/murderscene

You have no proof about anything what so ever. I rest my case.


EDIT: I was very wrong. :/

[icecube]

I was sent a message to look into this thread. If you would like to file a complaint with us at http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/file-a-complaint/ be more than happy to investigate.

Do I still need to file a complaint?

*cough* You must be extremely deaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jX_2VGdXv78#t=1570
26.14 - 26.18: "Join us on the line is Paul, the creator and owner of BitVegas".
Also, the voice of the guy that you linked doesn't sound like him. It may be Australian, but that doesn't prove anything.

Stop making up stuff. It won't help you.

Ok is this enough proof? MURDERSCENE=BITVEGAS ADMIN https://www.facebook.com/pages/Murderscene-Productions/152198601369?sk=info.

So a guy has a Facebook page which has the same name as the BitVegas Owner Minecraft name and you instantly assume that they are the same even when I just proved that his name is not Guy? Damn.


You have no proof about anything what so ever. I rest my case.

I'm sorry but I KNOW it is. They are both from Australia and I have tons of proof.

[TheUntitled]

I was sent a message to look into this thread. If you would like to file a complaint with us at http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/file-a-complaint/ be more than happy to investigate.

Do I still need to file a complaint?

*cough* You must be extremely deaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jX_2VGdXv78#t=1570
26.14 - 26.18: "Join us on the line is Paul, the creator and owner of BitVegas".
Also, the voice of the guy that you linked doesn't sound like him. It may be Australian, but that doesn't prove anything.

Stop making up stuff. It won't help you.

Ok is this enough proof? MURDERSCENE=BITVEGAS ADMIN https://www.facebook.com/pages/Murderscene-Productions/152198601369?sk=info.

So a guy has a Facebook page which has the same name as the BitVegas Owner Minecraft name and you instantly assume that they are the same even when I just proved that his name is not Guy? Damn.


You have no proof about anything what so ever. I rest my case.

I'm sorry but I KNOW it is. They are both from Australia and I have tons of proof.

So show us this "tons of proof".

"They are both from Australia" is not sufficient evidence to back up your claim, either show us your evidence or your accusation means nothing.

Furthermore, how is the owner's identity relevant to you getting back your 7.5 BTC?

[icecube]

I was sent a message to look into this thread. If you would like to file a complaint with us at http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/file-a-complaint/ be more than happy to investigate.

Do I still need to file a complaint?

*cough* You must be extremely deaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jX_2VGdXv78#t=1570
26.14 - 26.18: "Join us on the line is Paul, the creator and owner of BitVegas".
Also, the voice of the guy that you linked doesn't sound like him. It may be Australian, but that doesn't prove anything.

Stop making up stuff. It won't help you.

Ok is this enough proof? MURDERSCENE=BITVEGAS ADMIN https://www.facebook.com/pages/Murderscene-Productions/152198601369?sk=info.

So a guy has a Facebook page which has the same name as the BitVegas Owner Minecraft name and you instantly assume that they are the same even when I just proved that his name is not Guy? Damn.


You have no proof about anything what so ever. I rest my case.

I'm sorry but I KNOW it is. They are both from Australia and I have tons of proof.

So show us this "tons of proof".

"They are both from Australia" is not sufficient evidence to back up your claim, either show us your evidence or your accusation means nothing.

http://wa-com.com/bitads.info

Guy Kilgour has registered both domains www.bitjes.us linking to www.bitvegas.com and bitads.info. This is proof that he owns bitads.info along with proof that his site was infected with malware detected http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1jo4jg/i_created_a_new_website_to_provide_a_fair/

I'm sorry he has been lying to you

[icecube]

Well I guess BitVegas' lies came back to haunt him in the end.

[Matoking]

Well I guess BitVegas' lies came back to haunt him in the end.

Yes, because 20 minutes of silence means you automatically won the argument. Go you!

Besides, I have no idea how the supposed "malware" makes him a scammer, especially since it was a short-lived issue that was only picked up by a few antivirus programs.

[BitVegas]

Yes I like to keep my personal information private. Anonymity is one of the reasons I am into Bitcoin in the first place.

Your argument seems to be that if you can find out my personal identity, somehow that means you have won the case?

The Malware thing is just silly. It was a problem that was being reported by a couple of services on launch day only which was fixed up very quickly. There was no malware on the site and any user who viewed the code could see it was plain and simple.

I'm sorry but like I said I won't be replying anymore unless there is something new brought to my attention. All this is doing is dragging out an old issue and beating a dead cat.

We are happy to undergo any investigation by a trusted firm to look into the validity of our services, or to help any of the "5" other users you claim were also stolen from that I am still waiting to hear from.

[aksplace]

Yes I like to keep my personal information private. Anonymity is one of the reasons I am into Bitcoin in the first place.

Your argument seems to be that if you can find out my personal identity, somehow that means you have won the case?

The Malware thing is just silly. It was a problem that was being reported by a couple of services on launch day only which was fixed up very quickly. There was no malware on the site and any user who viewed the code could see it was plain and simple.

I'm sorry but like I said I won't be replying anymore unless there is something new brought to my attention. All this is doing is dragging out an old issue and beating a dead cat.

We are happy to undergo any investigation by a trusted firm to look into the validity of our services, or to help any of the "5" other users you claim were also stolen from that I am still waiting to hear from.

Could you get in contact with me regarding provable fairness you claim you offer on the website? We would like to verify and add you to the provable fair page.

[BitVegas]

Could you get in contact with me regarding provable fairness you claim you offer on the website? We would like to verify and add you to the provable fair page.

Sure. We can talk via PM here on skype under "BitVegas". Is that ok?

[icecube]

Yes I like to keep my personal information private. Anonymity is one of the reasons I am into Bitcoin in the first place.

Your argument seems to be that if you can find out my personal identity, somehow that means you have won the case?

The Malware thing is just silly. It was a problem that was being reported by a couple of services on launch day only which was fixed up very quickly. There was no malware on the site and any user who viewed the code could see it was plain and simple.

I'm sorry but like I said I won't be replying anymore unless there is something new brought to my attention. All this is doing is dragging out an old issue and beating a dead cat.

We are happy to undergo any investigation by a trusted firm to look into the validity of our services, or to help any of the "5" other users you claim were also stolen from that I am still waiting to hear from.

Could you get in contact with me regarding provable fairness you claim you offer on the website? We would like to verify and add you to the provable fair page.

As I am aware, only some of his games have provable fairness.

BitVegas I have already won this case. I have been in contact with your local law and will indeed be getting my BTC back. Sorry, buddy

[Tomatocage]

I've removed my negative trust rating pending further research.

[ingrownpocket]

(ongoing) [SCAM] BitAds.net and BitVegas.net
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499972.0

[ingrownpocket]

[FULL DOX] (SCAMMER) Guy Kilgour / BitVegas / BitAds / Murderscene
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=796673.0

[eoakland]

OP, that sucks.  sorry to read you got scammed.