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November 14, 2013, 07:15:48 AM
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Can you guy share your ideas on how to implement off-chain games that are provably fair. I'm looking more at the provably fair part. If it helps, consider a dice game.

As an unrelated question: On-chain games like satoshidice and likes have bloated the chain from 2gb to 13gb in a year. What is the future? Are we looking at 1 TB in a few years?

EDIT: posted in wrong forum. Wanted to do in "Dev and tech support". Can mods move?

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November 14, 2013, 10:26:33 AM
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There are several provably fair off-chain dice games already. What are you thinking of that these don't already have?
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February 05, 2014, 10:50:01 AM
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There are several provably fair off-chain dice games already. What are you thinking of that these don't already have?

I want to make a game, so looking for ideas. Think of simple dice game like satoshidice but the multiple tosses are done off the chain and finally amount is withdrawn. (I think new satoshidice works like this).

Basically want to generate a sequence of random numbers connecting an "initial" transaction and a "final" transaction, such that users and public can verify fairness.

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February 05, 2014, 12:19:21 PM
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Again, this already exists and is used to gamble millions of BTC already. What's wrong with copying one of the existing ones?

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February 05, 2014, 12:55:06 PM
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Amitabh, See primedice.com

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February 05, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
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i have a few ideas for some games but i know  little to nothing on making a site with the whole bitcoinPHP
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February 05, 2014, 06:44:04 PM
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I think that you are imagining creating a DAC (Decentralized Autonomous Community/Corporation) or in this case a DAG (Decentralized Autonomous Game). Basically the game itself will have a blockchain but not necessarily an ever-expanding or persistent blockchain. It will just serve to provably verify the correct state of the game amoungst the players involved (like the state of a chessboard at a given time). The DAC can then interface with bitcoind to handle any monetary transactions or financial rewards for winning games or for demonstrating excellent play for example.

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