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November 14, 2013, 07:49:32 PM
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November 14, 2013, 07:50:25 PM
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Cost and availability?
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November 14, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
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November 14, 2013, 08:19:52 PM
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Fair price would be BTC0.6 each
They will price them at twice that is my bet.
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November 14, 2013, 08:25:49 PM
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Sales link:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Hot-sale-Friedcat-New-Generation-Box-Miner-38-GH-S-in-Stock-bitcoin-asic/340830_1480166646.html

$700 including shipment. Very expensive compared to other miners as listed  here:

http://decentralizedhashing.com/bitcoin-mining-equipment-table/

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November 14, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
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Fair price would be BTC0.6 each
They will price them at twice that is my bet.

and still will sell on eBay for even more. like always
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November 14, 2013, 08:31:44 PM
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Nothing to see here but a train wrecked, move along...

This is recycled Gen1 technology (110nm), 2 BTC for 38GH (overclocked) at 280-Watt is pathetic to say the least when even low-life Avalon is selling their 23GH module for 1 BTC.

This makes Avalon Gen2 HEX16A2 24GH board looks good in comparison, for the same 2 BTC, you get 48GH total hashing power.  You do need a host computer and PSU, but that's just meant the GH / BTC cost ratio is the same at much lower power usage (100 Watts?) with the Avalon Gen2.

But as I have already mentioned, the KnC 28nm (Gen3) have already far surpassed Avalon Gen2 in price and efficiency, and it is just going to get worse with HashFast (December) and CoinTerra (January).

The much deserved end is in sight for both Avalon and ASICMiner.

http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01

P.S.  I have to laugh at "New Generation"?!?  Who are they trying to fool?  Oh yeah, newbies.
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November 14, 2013, 08:33:36 PM
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Plus ships within 30 days and up to 15 more days for shipping.  You could (according to their website) be waiting up to 45 days from time of purchase.  That's a pretty long potential wait for an in stock product.
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November 14, 2013, 08:46:44 PM
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load a crap

used and now put in a box and passed on. sick people. at least put a decent price on it
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November 14, 2013, 08:56:10 PM
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overpriced, a lot Smiley

 
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November 14, 2013, 08:59:01 PM
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not fast enough
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November 14, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
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You guys were expecting it to be cheap?

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November 14, 2013, 09:13:33 PM
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You guys were expecting it to be cheap?

Yup.

That friedcatminer is priced at $18.42 per GH/s.

Other similar competitors from the list (http://decentralizedhashing.com/bitcoin-mining-equipment-table/):

Example: Technobit 40GH/s Hex16B is priced around $500 - which would be around $12-13 per GH/s.

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November 14, 2013, 09:19:38 PM
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If you expected it to be cheap, you haven't been following the asicminer product line. They have never been cheap.

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November 14, 2013, 10:09:09 PM
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If only we had digital tomatoes to throw!!

I would pay good money to throw tomatoes at asic vendors!


 Maybe we can arrange a charity event.  lol






 
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November 15, 2013, 06:24:30 AM
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well said...  Grin as zulover pointed out friedcat is getting rid of his trash to prepare for gen2 chips arrival... the brighter side of this: suckers are getting wiser and asicminer shareholders are getting more anxious  Cheesy

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Nothing to see here but a train wrecked, move along...

This is recycled Gen1 technology (110nm), 2 BTC for 38GH (overclocked) at 280-Watt is pathetic to say the least when even low-life Avalon is selling their 23GH module for 1 BTC.

This makes Avalon Gen2 HEX16A2 24GH board looks good in comparison, for the same 2 BTC, you get 48GH total hashing power.  You do need a host computer and PSU, but that's just meant the GH / BTC cost ratio is the same at much lower power usage (100 Watts?) with the Avalon Gen2.

But as I have already mentioned, the KnC 28nm (Gen3) have already far surpassed Avalon Gen2 in price and efficiency, and it is just going to get worse with HashFast (December) and CoinTerra (January).

The much deserved end is in sight for both Avalon and ASICMiner.

http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01

P.S.  I have to laugh at "New Generation"?!?  Who are they trying to fool?  Oh yeah, newbies.
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well said...  Grin as zulover pointed out friedcat is getting rid of his trash to prepare for gen2 chips arrival... the brighter side of this: suckers are getting wiser and asicminer shareholders are getting more anxious  Cheesy

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems

Take the opportunity to pilfer a goat

    (順手牽羊/顺手牵羊, Shùn shǒu qiān yáng)
    While carrying out your plans be flexible enough to take advantage of any opportunity that presents itself, however small, and avail yourself of any profit, however slight.


Nothing to see here but a train wrecked, move along...

This is recycled Gen1 technology (110nm), 2 BTC for 38GH (overclocked) at 280-Watt is pathetic to say the least when even low-life Avalon is selling their 23GH module for 1 BTC.

This makes Avalon Gen2 HEX16A2 24GH board looks good in comparison, for the same 2 BTC, you get 48GH total hashing power.  You do need a host computer and PSU, but that's just meant the GH / BTC cost ratio is the same at much lower power usage (100 Watts?) with the Avalon Gen2.

But as I have already mentioned, the KnC 28nm (Gen3) have already far surpassed Avalon Gen2 in price and efficiency, and it is just going to get worse with HashFast (December) and CoinTerra (January).

The much deserved end is in sight for both Avalon and ASICMiner.

http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01

P.S.  I have to laugh at "New Generation"?!?  Who are they trying to fool?  Oh yeah, newbies.

You a forgot BFL in your Asicminer / Avalon list. Have a look at the Rules of Acquistion... I see quite a few of these tactics used by all 3.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Ferengi_Rules_of_Acquisition

Number                                Rule                                                  Source
1    "Once you have their money, you never give it back."    "The Nagus" (DS9 episode)
2    "The best deal is the one that makes the most profit."   The 34th Rule (DS9 novel)
3    "Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to."    "The Maquis, Part II" (DS9 episode)
4    "A woman wearing clothes is like a man in the kitchen."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
5    "Always exaggerate your estimates."   Cold Fusion (SCE novel)
6    "Never let family stand in the way of opportunity."    "The Nagus" (DS9 episode)
7    "Always keep your ears open."    "In the Hands of the Prophets" (DS9 episode)
8    "Small print leads to large risk."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
9    "Instinct, plus opportunity, equals profit."    "The Storyteller" (DS9 episode)
10    "Greed is eternal."    "Prophet Motive" (DS9 episode)
11    "Even if its free, you can always buy it cheaper."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
12    "Anything worth selling is worth selling twice."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
13    "Anything worth doing is worth doing for money."   Legends of the Ferengi (DS9 novel)
15    "Dead men close no deals."   Demons of Air and Darkness (DS9 novel)
16    "A deal is a deal (is a deal)...until a better one comes along."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
17    "A contract is a contract is a contract... but only between Ferengi."    "Body Parts" (DS9 episode)
18    "A Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all."    "Heart of Stone" (DS9 episode)
19    "Satisfaction is not guaranteed."   Legends of the Ferengi (DS9 novel)
20    "He who dives under the table today lives to profit tomorrow."   Ferenginar: Satisfaction is Not Guaranteed (DS9 novella)
21    "Never place friendship before profit."    "Rules of Acquisition" (DS9 episode)
22    "Wise men can hear profit in the wind."    "Rules of Acquisition" (DS9 episode)
23    "Nothing is more important than your health...except for your money."    "Acquisition" (ENT episode)
25    "You pay for it...its your idea!."   Ferenginar: Satisfaction is Not Guaranteed (DS9 novella)
27    "There's nothing more dangerous than an honest businessman."   Legends of the Ferengi (DS9 novel)
29    "What's in it for me?"   Highest Score (DS9 novel)
30    "A wise man knows that confidentiality equals profit."   The Badlands, Part IV (DS9 novel)
31    "Never make fun of a Ferengi's mother."    "The Siege" (DS9 episode)
32    "Insult something he cares about."    "Elite Force II"
33    "It never hurts to suck up to the boss."    "Rules of Acquisition" (DS9 episode)
34    "War is good for business."    "Destiny" (DS9 episode); The 34th Rule (DS9 novel)
35    "Peace is good for business."    "Destiny" (DS9 episode); The 34th Rule (DS9 novel)
37    "The early investor reaps the most interest."   ST novella: Reservoir Ferengi
40    "She can touch your lobes but never your latinum."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
41    "Profit is its own reward."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
43    "Feed your greed, but not enough to choke it."   The Buried Age (TNG novel)
44    "Never confuse wisdom with luck."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
45    "Expand or die.*"    "Acquisition" (ENT episode)
47    "Never trust a man wearing a better suit than your own."    "Rivals" (DS9 episode)
48    "The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife."    "Rules of Acquisition" (DS9 episode)
52    "Never ask when you can take."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
53    "Never trust anybody taller than you."   Mission Gamma: Twilight (DS9 novel)
54    "Rate divided by time equals profit." (Also known as "The Velocity of Wealth.")   Raise the Dawn (Typhon Pact novel)
55    "Take joy from profit, and profit from joy."   Worlds of Deep Space Nine: Bajor: Fragments and Omens (DS9 novel)
57    "Good customers are almost as rare as latinum...treasure them."    "Armageddon Game" (DS9 episode)
58    "There is no substitute for success."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
59    "Free advise is seldom cheap."    "Rules of Acquisition" (DS9 episode)
60    "Keep your lies consistent." The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
62    "The riskier the road, the greater the profit."    "Rules of Acquisition" (DS9 episode)
63    "Work is the best therapy-at least for your employees."    "Over a Torrent Sea" (TTN novel)
65    "Win or lose, there's always Hupyrian beetle snuff."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
69    "Ferengi are not responsible for the stupidity of other races."   Balance of Power (TNG novel)
74    "Knowledge equals profit."    "Inside Man" (VOY episode)
75    "Home is where the heart is, but the stars are made of latinum."    "Civil Defense" (DS9 episode)
76    "Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the Hell out of your enemies."    "The Homecoming" (DS9 episode)
77    "If you break it, you bought it."   Star Trek Online
79    "Beware of the Vulcan greed for knowledge."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
82    "The flimsier the product, the higher the price."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
85    "Never let the competition know what you're thinking."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
87    "Learn the customer's weaknesses, so that you can better take advantage of him."   Highest Score (DS9 novel)
88    "It ain't over 'til its over."   Ferenginar: Satisfaction is Not Guaranteed (DS9 novella)
89    "Ask not what you can do for your profits, but what your profits can do for you."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
92    "There are many paths to profit."   Highest Score (DS9 novel)
94    "Females and finances don't mix."    "Ferengi Love Songs" (DS9 episode)
95    "Expand or die.*"    "False Profits" (VOY episode)
97    "Enough...is never enough."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
98    "Every man has his price."    "In the Pale Moonlight" (DS9 episode)
99    "Trust is the bigest liability of all."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
102    "Nature decays, but latinum lasts forever."    "The Jem'Hadar" (DS9 episode)
103    "Sleep can interfere with..."    "Rules of Acquisition" (DS9 episode)
104    "Faith moves mountains...of inventory."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
106    "There is no honor in poverty."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
109    "Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack."    "Rivals" (DS9 episode)
110    "Exploitation begins at home."   Star Trek Online
111    "Treat people in your debt like family... exploit them."    "Past Tense, Part I" (DS9 episode)
112    "Never have sex with the boss' sister."    "Playing God" (DS9 episode)
113    "Always have sex with the boss."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
121    "Everything is for sale - even friendship."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
123    "Even a blind man can recognize the glow of Latinum."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
125    "You can't make a deal if you're dead."    "The Siege of AR-558" (DS9 episode)
139    "Wives serve; brother inherit."    "Necessary Evil" (DS9 episode)
141    "Only fools pay retail."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
144    "There's nothing wrong with charity... as long as it winds up in your pocket."   Legends of the Ferengi (DS9 novel)
147    "People love the bartender."   Fearful Symmetry (DS9 novel)
153    "Sell the sizzle, not the steak."    "Deep Space Mine" (DS9 comic)
162    "Even in the worst of times, someone turns a profit."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
168    "Whisper your way to success."    "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River" (DS9 episode)
177    "Know your enemies... but do business with them always."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
181    "Not even dishonesty can tarnish the shine of profit."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
183    "When life hands you ungaberries, make detergent."   Hollow Men (DS9 novel)
184    "A Ferengi waits to bid until his opponents have exhausted themselves."   Balance of Power (TNG novel)
188    "Not even dishonesty can tarnish the shine of profit."   Star Trek Online
189    "Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
190    "Hear all, trust nothing."   DS9 episode: "Call to Arms"
192    "Never cheat a Klingon... unless you're sure you can get away with it."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 novel)
193    "Trouble comes in threes."   Star Trek Online
194    "It's always good business to know about new customers before they walk in your door."    "Whispers" (DS9 episode)
199    "Location, location, location."   The Soul Key (DS9 novel)
200    "A Ferengi chooses no side but his own"    (DS9 novel: Ferenginar: Satisfaction is Not Guaranteed)
202    "The justification for profit is profit."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
203    "New customers are like razor-toothed gree worms. They can be succulent, but sometimes they bite back."   DS9 episode: "Little Green Men"
208    "Sometimes, the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer."   DS9 episode: "Ferengi Love Songs"
211    "Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success, don't hesitate to step on them."   DS9 episode: "Bar Association"
212    "A good lie is easier to believe than the truth."   Star Trek Online
214    "Never begin a business transaction on an empty stomach."   DS9 episode: "The Maquis, Part I"
216    "Never gamble with a telepath."   DS9 novel: The Laertian Gamble
217    "You can't free a fish from water."   DS9 episode: "Past Tense, Part I"
218    "Always know what you're buying."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
218    "Sometimes what you get free cost entirely too much."   Baby on Board (DS9 Malibu Comics)
219    "Possession is eleven-tenths of the law!"   TNG novel: Balance of Power
223    "Beware the man who doesn't take time for Oo-mox."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
227    "If that's what's written, then that's what's written."   Star Trek Online
229    "Latinum lasts longer than lust."   DS9 episode: "Ferengi Love Songs"
235    "Duck; death is tall."   Mission Gamma: Twilight (DS9 novel)
236    "You can't buy fate."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
239    "Never be afraid to mislabel a product."   DS9 episode: "Body Parts"
240    "Time, like latinum, is a highly limited commodity."   Star Trek Online
242    "More is good...all is better."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
255    "A wife is [a] luxury... a smart accountant a neccessity."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
257    "When the messenger comes to appropriate your profits, kill the messenger."   Star Trek Online
261    "A wealthy man can afford everything except a conscience."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
263    "Never let doubt interfere with your lust for Latinum."   DS9 episode: "Bar Association"
266    "When in doubt, lie."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
272    "Always inspect the merchandise before making a deal."   Star Trek Online
280    "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."   DS9 novel: Ferenginar: Satisfaction is Not Guaranteed)
284    "Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi."   The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (DS9 reference book)
285    "No good deed ever goes unpunished."   DS9 episode: "The Collaborator"
not given    "Always get somebody else to do the lifting."    "N-Vector" (DS9 comic)
not given    "Never get into anything that you can't get out of."    "N-Vector" (DS9 comic)
not given    "A man is only worth the sum of his possessions."    "Acquisition" (ENT episode)
not given    "An angry man is an enemy, and a satisfied man is an ally.."   Antimatter (DS9 novel)
not given    "The less employees know about the cash flow, the smaller the share they can demand."   Betrayal (DS9 novel)
not given    "Only a fool passes up a business opportunity."    "Elite Force II"
not given    "The more time they take deciding, the more money they will spend."   Stowaways (DS9 novel)

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November 15, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
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I've added this to my list, as a reputable source said it was on the way.  I'll be watching to see if any changes happen as they announce.

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November 15, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
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The market has moved on,

These will sell about as well as the Surplus Avalons and the Chips at auction.

The ASIC market is such now that if you are too greedy, almost no one will buy.

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February 11, 2014, 03:38:13 PM
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I found it now here:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/In-stock-38GH-S-bitcoin-miner-BTC-miner-machine-Bitcoin-Miner-BOX-Bitcoin-Minning-machine-38GH/1637443390.html

Can be connected thru USB to host PC? What are the requierements of this device?
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