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November 15, 2013, 12:27:15 AM |
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Do you want Mike Hearn removed as Chair of the Bitcoin Foundation's Law & Policy commitee?
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November 15, 2013, 12:37:01 AM |
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I voted stay. I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.
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Bitcoin Fact: the price of bitcoin will not be greater than $70k for more than 25 consecutive days at any point in the rest of recorded human history.
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November 15, 2013, 12:41:23 AM |
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I voted stay. I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.
Impossible to prevent, yes. But the Bitcoin Foundation shouldn't be behind it.
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November 15, 2013, 12:44:00 AM |
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I voted stay. I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.
It's not impossible to prevent, the core is basically already possible. But problem is, he proposes a redemption system when receiving tainted coins: - Send ID - Sign a form allowing some kind of authority to track your bitcoin activity
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[OVER] RIDDLES 2nd edition --- this was claimed. Look out for 3rd edition! I won't ever ask for a loan nor offer any escrow service. If I do, please consider my account as hacked.
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November 15, 2013, 12:44:43 AM |
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"Bitcoin is a decentralized electronic currency" Hahahahahahahahahahahaha XD ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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November 15, 2013, 01:05:43 AM |
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"Bitcoin is a decentralized electronic currency" Hahahahahahahahahahahaha XD ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) True.
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Bitcoin Fact: the price of bitcoin will not be greater than $70k for more than 25 consecutive days at any point in the rest of recorded human history.
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November 15, 2013, 01:06:49 AM |
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what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway. Death is impossible to prevent too. So let's kill ourselves!
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Fairplay medal of dnaleor's trading simulator. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 15, 2013, 01:09:36 AM |
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bitcoin does not need identity checks supervised by the USA
while trading bitcoin for products priced in bitcoin, thats for us to supervise our own money while trading bitcoin for altcoin , thats for us to supervise our own money while trading altcoin for products priced in altcoin, thats for us to supervise our own money
only identity check when you want FIAT.
EG if you want to convert bitcoin into dollar to go to a bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the fincen laws. EG if you want to convert bitcoin into pounds to go to a bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the FCA laws. EG if you want to convert bitcoin into Yen to go to a bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the FSA laws. EG if you want to convert bitcoin into Euro to go to a German bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the BaFin laws. EG if you want to convert bitcoin into Euro to go to a French bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the AMF laws.
you get the idea
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I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER. Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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November 15, 2013, 01:12:14 AM |
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People do not believe in anything. "The Foundation" just wants to collect their winnings. I despise these people. Curious that the heroe members generally support the initiative, but since it began to centralize Bitcoin was obvious that this would happen, hopefully soon, Casino Tax bitcoin to end tax of 2% on each transaction.
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November 15, 2013, 01:14:01 AM |
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This was the problem in making the "Bitcoin Foundation" an American organization.
They had the opportunity to take on a new representative recently and were presented with people from around the world, but chose the American Girl who spoke heartily about keeping the Bitcoin Foundation American and all other groups around the world just "satellite offices" of the USA Bitcoin Foundation.
Clearly this pissed off many, and for good reason.
Now we have a clear example of why the Bitcoin Foundation being an American organization is a bad thing.
Why is the "hub" for decision-making on Bitcoin... in the belly of the Lion?
That has to be the worst idea ever. Right in the middle of "regulation central" ...
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November 15, 2013, 01:15:13 AM |
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If I didn't know better, I would conclude that he has been "compromised".
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November 15, 2013, 01:15:23 AM |
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But he said it well a member of the foundation. If you do not like make your own altcoin, to see who uses it. You even talk like politicians: D, despots.
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November 15, 2013, 01:19:14 AM |
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I voted stay. I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.
Seems like the only thing that can't be prevented is a lack of imagination.
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November 15, 2013, 01:26:41 AM |
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This "redlist" thing is just icing on the cake. His last shred of credibility was lost already back in october when he wrote this: By the way - I'm amazed at how many people are surprised that a drug dealer with extreme anarcho-capitalist tendencies turned out to be not a swell guy! Imagine that!
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November 15, 2013, 01:29:24 AM |
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He couldn't even be a chair in front of my desk.
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November 15, 2013, 01:32:09 AM |
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Majority has spoken! 51% united
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November 15, 2013, 01:45:59 AM |
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he is representing the interest of US gov , not bitcoin community , expel him.if they dont , we should think about to find a replacement of btc foundation
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November 15, 2013, 01:46:30 AM |
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I really think the most dangerous threat to bitcoin is its "Foundation", not one of his members. The bitcoin governance system is severely broken. Bitcoin Foundation should be:
- Run by democratic principles (members should be elected in a democratic process) - Transparent (interacting and asking the community for feedback whenever big decisions are to be made) - Global (not based in a single country and with representatives from all the nations)
W3C and IETF are nice examples of GOOD governance.
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November 15, 2013, 01:53:35 AM Last edit: November 15, 2013, 02:25:26 AM by Carlton Banks |
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I can only add that Mike Hearn has provided many a valuable contribution to the Bitcoin ecosystem as a whole, taht we are all benefiting from one way or another.
But I think we are all agreed that his tendency to conform to the broken central authority model is not one of them.
Cue Mike saying... "but government? but democracy? but rule of law?" What government? What democracy? What rule of law? All administered by the state he loves so much, and all for the benefit of their corporate friends interests (corporate interest that he no doubt loves too, and clearly benefits from with his corporate career, living in his libertarian, directly democratic Switzerland residence).
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Vires in numeris
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November 15, 2013, 02:20:52 AM |
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Majority has spoken! 51% united
Ultimately people vote with the codebase they choose to run. At this point I'll be very surprised if a code fork and development team fracture does not happen. The big questions in my mind are: - will the transaction rate be increased enough to block large classes of users from running full nodes in time? - what will be the disposition of the Chinese would-be peers? If I were doing strategy for the Foundation, I'd be actively courting the large players in the Chinese sphere and possibly the government as well. I'm not, and I'm very hopeful that the Foundation fails. Thus, I hope that the Chinese operators and users think for themselves and don't necessarily let those who wish to centralized the solution dominate the direction.
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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