Vote for the removal of Mike Hearn as Chair of the Bitcoin Foundations Law & Pol

[anarchy]

Do you want Mike Hearn removed as Chair of the Bitcoin Foundation's Law & Policy commitee?

[proudhon]

I voted stay.  I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.

[bassclef]

I voted stay.  I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.

Impossible to prevent, yes. But the Bitcoin Foundation shouldn't be behind it.

[Kouye]

I voted stay.  I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.

It's not impossible to prevent, the core is basically already possible.
But problem is, he proposes a redemption system when receiving tainted coins:
- Send ID
- Sign a form allowing some kind of authority to track your bitcoin activity

[Aristoteles]

"Bitcoin is a decentralized electronic currency" Hahahahahahahahahahahaha XD 

[proudhon]

"Bitcoin is a decentralized electronic currency" Hahahahahahahahahahahaha XD 

True.

[Wary]

what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.

Death is impossible to prevent too. So let's kill ourselves!

[franky1]

bitcoin does not need identity checks supervised by the USA

while trading bitcoin for products priced in bitcoin, thats for us to supervise our own money
while trading bitcoin for altcoin , thats for us to supervise our own money
while trading altcoin for products priced in altcoin, thats for us to supervise our own money

only identity check when you want FIAT.

EG if you want to convert bitcoin into dollar to go to a bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the fincen laws.
EG if you want to convert bitcoin into pounds to go to a bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the FCA laws.
EG if you want to convert bitcoin into Yen to go to a bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the FSA laws.
EG if you want to convert bitcoin into Euro to go to a German bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the BaFin laws.
EG if you want to convert bitcoin into Euro to go to a French bank account then and only then inside the exchange do you follow the AMF laws.

you get the idea

[Aristoteles]

People do not believe in anything. "The Foundation" just wants to collect their winnings. I despise these people. Curious that the heroe members generally support the initiative, but since it began to centralize Bitcoin was obvious that this would happen, hopefully soon, Casino Tax bitcoin to end tax of 2% on each transaction.

[BittBurger]

This was the problem in making the "Bitcoin Foundation" an American organization.

They had the opportunity to take on a new representative recently and were presented with people from around the world, but chose the American Girl who spoke heartily about keeping the Bitcoin Foundation American and all other groups around the world just "satellite offices" of the USA Bitcoin Foundation.  

Clearly this pissed off many, and for good reason.

Now we have a clear example of why the Bitcoin Foundation being an American organization is a bad thing.  

Why is the "hub" for decision-making on Bitcoin... in the belly of the Lion?

That has to be the worst idea ever.  Right in the middle of "regulation central" ...

[TippingPoint]

If I didn't know better, I would conclude that he has been "compromised".

[Aristoteles]

But he said it well a member of the foundation. If you do not like make your own altcoin, to see who uses it. You even talk like politicians: D, despots.

[Carlton Banks]

I voted stay.  I think this is being blown out of proportion and what he's proposing is practically impossible to prevent anyway.

Seems like the only thing that can't be prevented is a lack of imagination.

[TheKoziTwo]

This "redlist" thing is just icing on the cake. His last shred of credibility was lost already back in october when he wrote this:

By the way - I'm amazed at how many people are surprised that a drug dealer with extreme anarcho-capitalist tendencies turned out to be not a swell guy! Imagine that!

[EFS]

He couldn't even be a chair in front of my desk.

[Skinnkavaj]

Majority has spoken! 51% united

[p2pbucks]

he is representing the interest of US gov , not bitcoin community , expel him.if they dont , we should think about to find a replacement of btc foundation

[bitjoint]

I really think the most dangerous threat to bitcoin is its "Foundation", not one of his members. The bitcoin governance system is severely broken. Bitcoin Foundation should be:

- Run by democratic principles (members should be elected in a democratic process)
- Transparent (interacting and asking the community for feedback whenever big decisions are to be made)
- Global (not based in a single country and with representatives from all the nations)

W3C and IETF are nice examples of GOOD governance.

[Carlton Banks]

I can only add that Mike Hearn has provided many a valuable contribution to the Bitcoin ecosystem as a whole, taht we are all benefiting from one way or another.

But I think we are all agreed that his tendency to conform to the broken central authority model is not one of them.

Cue Mike saying... "but government? but democracy? but rule of law?" What government? What democracy? What rule of law? All administered by the state he loves so much, and all for the benefit of their corporate friends interests (corporate interest that he no doubt loves too, and clearly benefits from with his corporate career, living in his libertarian, directly democratic Switzerland residence).

[tvbcof]

Majority has spoken! 51% united

Ultimately people vote with the codebase they choose to run.  At this point I'll be very surprised if a code fork and development team fracture does not happen.

The big questions in my mind are:

 - will the transaction rate be increased enough to block large classes of users from running full nodes in time?

 - what will be the disposition of the Chinese would-be peers?

If I were doing strategy for the Foundation, I'd be actively courting the large players in the Chinese sphere and possibly the government as well.  I'm not, and I'm very hopeful that the Foundation fails.  Thus, I hope that the Chinese operators and users think for themselves and don't necessarily let those who wish to centralized the solution dominate the direction.