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August 01, 2011, 07:37:05 PM
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Your signature:

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mybitcoin lost all my money ;-(
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Web Application and Server Security Auditing, message me for info.

Uhm, i mean, "security auditing" and you trusted all your money to mybitcoin?  Huh

Are you, like, serious? Or is this some really funny signature and i just didn't get it?  Grin

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August 01, 2011, 07:58:25 PM
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In defense of xcooling, having a skill or merely a knowledge of exploitable environments and how to make them safer does not necessarily translate to good judgement in personal finances. Wink

Agreed, i have an education in telecommunication systems, and my phone doesn't even work at home  Grin

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August 01, 2011, 08:04:30 PM
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@qwk .. its a joke. I can imagine allot of people have lost all theirs though.

The amount I have lost in mybitcoin is around the cost of a steak dinner.

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August 01, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
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All I see is an empty estate. Maybe he just built his home and now needed some money to pay the bills?
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August 02, 2011, 08:58:27 PM
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lol.. legally.. they have stolen nothing
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bitcoin is not legal tender, so no laws apply to it.. best you can do.. is harass and ddos the isp, until they take action (eg. disclose the billing information) , then you can go an kneecap the guy.

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August 02, 2011, 09:03:33 PM
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He tried to warn you.


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August 02, 2011, 09:10:31 PM
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lol.. legally.. they have stolen nothing
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bitcoin is not legal tender, so no laws apply to it.. best you can do.. is harass and ddos the isp, until they take action (eg. disclose the billing information) , then you can go an kneecap the guy.

Well obviously you are a natural in the law department, but I'd just like to remind you that theft is accountable when it comes to more than just your precious paper money.

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August 02, 2011, 09:34:41 PM
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lol.. legally.. they have stolen nothing
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bitcoin is not legal tender, so no laws apply to it.. best you can do.. is harass and ddos the isp, until they take action (eg. disclose the billing information) , then you can go an kneecap the guy.

It may not be legal tender, but if I were to run a website where people uploaded WoW Gold and I were to use that gold myself for any reason, you would have legal grounds for a lawsuit based on an implied contract of privacy and ownership. You'd obviously need a lot of evidence to both prove Bitcoin's value and the intentions of the owner of the site to conduct such fraud, but it's not an impossible case. Saying that authorities can do 'nothing about it' is immature at best. They can investigate fraud in general, regardless of in what form it is perpetrated.

WOW Gold is a horrible example people keep using w\ different topics relating to bitcoin.

WOW Gold is owned by Blizzard entertainment.  If you're trying to sell THEIR property, they have a problem.  Bitcoin is not owned by a company and is not subject to the same copyright terms that WOW gold falls under.
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August 02, 2011, 10:02:58 PM
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WOW Gold is owned by Blizzard entertainment.  If you're trying to sell THEIR property, they have a problem.  Bitcoin is not owned by a company and is not subject to the same copyright terms that WOW gold falls under.

Don't be mistaken to think that something needs to be copyrighted to constitute theft.
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August 02, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
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honestly are you going to spend us$100 000 to investigate and launch a civil suit against the owner ?

Move on and work on your own ideas, you have some good ones.

next thing.. you realize bitcoin income is taxable ? and most likely you have broken tax and foreign exchange laws ?

Revenue services would love a bunch of affidavits from bitcoiners

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August 02, 2011, 11:29:57 PM
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WOW Gold is owned by Blizzard entertainment.  If you're trying to sell THEIR property, they have a problem.  Bitcoin is not owned by a company and is not subject to the same copyright terms that WOW gold falls under.

Just for the record, Blizzard is setting up an official auction house which will allow its users to sell their in-game assets for cash, starting with Diablo 3.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2011/08/01/diablo-3-to-allow-trading-gold-and-items-for-real-world-cash


All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 02, 2011, 11:44:58 PM
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a private investigator and lawyers cant do anything except gather information and write letters.

Case would have to go before a judge before anything can happen.

Next.. under the eyes of the law.. mybitcoin is innocent until proven otherwise.

The contract/tos/eula will then have to be examined by a contract lawyer, and then you have to prove the contract was violated etc etc.

Lawyers are pay per an hour, every expert is pay per hour, judge, court, etc.. it ads up fast.

btw: nice projects

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August 03, 2011, 12:24:52 AM
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The contract/tos/eula will then have to be examined by a contract lawyer, and then you have to prove the contract was violated etc etc.

Lawyers are pay per an hour, every expert is pay per hour, judge, court, etc.. it ads up fast.

btw: nice projects

It's even more complicated than that.  You're talking about a niche area of the law across multiple jurisdictions.  Your average "first consultation free" lawyer isn't likely to have expertise in the area of digital goods and services, let alone be familiar with the inner workings of contract law in other countries.  You'd literally need to hire a local lawyer to assess the merits of the case in each jurisdiction where you're considering taking action.  Even if you did somehow manage to find a lawyer willing to take the case on contingency and you did prevail in court, enforcing a judgment is another matter entirely.

From a lawyer's point of view, it's not going to be an attractive case to take on contingency, both because there's no 'deep pockets' defendant and because it's highly likely that the company's assets are located in a safe haven which won't domesticate the orders of a foreign court.

While I'm sure a private investigator can be found who's willing to take money for trying to track down the location of "Tom Williams", I question whether they're any more likely to come up with concrete, usable information than 4 chan would given the same starting point.


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August 03, 2011, 01:13:38 AM
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Let me offer the names of two lawyers, Trace Mayer and Bill Rounds, who are the proprietors of Howtovanish.com
  (takes you to their contact page)
There is a good chance they may be familiar with the ins and outs of Nevis corporations. After all, they know how to vanish!  Also, they accept bitcoin.  How cool is that?


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