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August 02, 2011, 12:00:51 AM
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Passes out of committee.

Think of the Children!

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/01/house-approves-data-mongering-isp-snooping-bill-and-what-that-means-for-you/

Those "small-government conservatives", always looking out for your best interests.....(to be fair, I recognize that most conservatives in this forum don't see the Republican Party as being legitimately conservative. But some do.)

(Seriously, this is a scary fucked up bill.)
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August 02, 2011, 05:42:16 PM
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Aren't you glad there are VPN companies that accept BTC  Cheesy

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August 04, 2011, 05:38:58 PM
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According to one of these articles this has already passed the house, according to the other it has not yet.  Do you know which is the case?

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August 04, 2011, 06:57:34 PM
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It has not passed the house, it has passed out of committee though.

Still fairly far away from becoming a law, but could get fast tracked and attached to "must pass" legislation at any time, just like the UIGEA did

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1981
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August 05, 2011, 04:23:11 AM
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At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...
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August 05, 2011, 01:31:28 PM
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Unfortunately there is no reason to really expect much privacy on the internet (or talking on a phone) anyway. Meanwhile, the bad guys who are not idiots are likely just using other people's internet connections to do their dirty deeds.

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August 05, 2011, 01:39:21 PM
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For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.

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August 05, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
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At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

When?  back during the Civil War?

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August 05, 2011, 05:20:54 PM
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For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.
While you have the time machine warmed up you may as well go back to 2001 too and thwart the hijackers.

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August 05, 2011, 05:23:17 PM
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The issue, for me, is not privacy.  I understand that the government is filtering pretty much all internet traffic.  My issue is with storing info in fairly unsecure areas.  I don't want my credit card number being held by my ISP where Lulzsec can get at it much more easily.

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August 06, 2011, 12:08:07 AM
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The issue, for me, is not privacy.  I understand that the government is filtering pretty much all internet traffic.  My issue is with storing info in fairly unsecure areas.  I don't want my credit card number being held by my ISP where Lulzsec can get at it much more easily.

Screw Lulzsec getting it look directly at your ISP and their minimum wage employees. Story after story of employees accessing and using private data stored my ISPs, cell providers to banks. Second off I am willing to bet that although it's not in the bill there is some immunity somewhere that says if the ISP lost your data that was required to be stored by the FEDS you can't sue them.

Time for everyone to start moving back to cash, cash to prepaid debt, using various mail drops that you change yearly, closing and re-opening what bank accounts you do have yearly, etc, etc, all to avoid having live data stored by these folks.
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August 17, 2011, 08:01:40 AM
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For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.

When I was 10 years old? 
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August 17, 2011, 08:08:16 AM
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Passes out of committee.

Think of the Children!

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/01/house-approves-data-mongering-isp-snooping-bill-and-what-that-means-for-you/

Those "small-government conservatives", always looking out for your best interests.....(to be fair, I recognize that most conservatives in this forum don't see the Republican Party as being legitimately conservative. But some do.)

(Seriously, this is a scary fucked up bill.)

Its only "logical" since they already spy the phone calls...

Here in Europe they are trying to pass very similar laws. Its very sad.
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August 17, 2011, 04:45:25 PM
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For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.

When I was 10 years old? 
lol No, you get a pass.

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August 17, 2011, 05:40:19 PM
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At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

That's what gets me the most. Look at Michelle Bachmann, Tea Party Head in Congress. How can you be for smaller Gov't, a limited Gov't and then support The Patriot Act? Of course this Bill with the whole protect the kids meme will get votes because nobody in D.C. will want to be seen as being against protecting the children. Thankfully some big business is against this so they will put their money were their mouth is and tone the bill down or get it sent back.
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August 17, 2011, 05:58:36 PM
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At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

That's what gets me the most. Look at Michelle Bachmann, Tea Party Head in Congress. How can you be for smaller Gov't, a limited Gov't and then support The Patriot Act? Of course this Bill with the whole protect the kids meme will get votes because nobody in D.C. will want to be seen as being against protecting the children. Thankfully some big business is against this so they will put their money were their mouth is and tone the bill down or get it sent back.

Come on, saying that the republicans are for small government is like saying democrats care for the people. Since when a republican president has decreased the size of government? Ronald Reagan, "the last republican hero", raised taxes, created the department of education, increased the debt, etc... Republicans are a joke.
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August 17, 2011, 09:47:40 PM
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At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

That's what gets me the most. Look at Michelle Bachmann, Tea Party Head in Congress. How can you be for smaller Gov't, a limited Gov't and then support The Patriot Act? Of course this Bill with the whole protect the kids meme will get votes because nobody in D.C. will want to be seen as being against protecting the children. Thankfully some big business is against this so they will put their money were their mouth is and tone the bill down or get it sent back.

Come on, saying that the republicans are for small government is like saying democrats care for the people. Since when a republican president has decreased the size of government? Ronald Reagan, "the last republican hero", raised taxes, created the department of education, increased the debt, etc... Republicans are a joke.

I did not say that republicans are for smaller Gov't. I said the Tea Party standard is smaller Gov't, limited Gov't and Bachmann who is a Republican that says she is head of the Tea Party Caucus also supports The Patriot Act. Are most Tea Party members Republican, yes, are all Republicans Tea Party members no. Bachmann however is, or says she is, so you have a Republican, Tea Party member who supports letting the FBI sneak into your home, bug your phone lines, copy your papers yet never file a single charge or get a "real" judge to ok the whole thing.
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