Solution to stop Newbie-Jr.Member spamming

[max2607]

uhmm, don't know if this is the solution and I think it will not solve the problem. Scammers are everywhere and they are persistent also

The only thing we can do is report them to the Admins as soon we will se them posting scammy topics. Maybe we will discourage them for one day... 

That irony though 

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[lotfiuser]

there is already merit system who stop spammers so youdont have to care about it anymore

[d5000]

I think manual approval for every newbie will be too much work for moderators. But I support Jet Cash's proposal:

Just block posting by them on most of the boards.

In other word you are saying to close new registrations  

Curious to know which boards should be open for them  

It's not "closing new registrations", it's a practice which is common in many popular web forums. Beginners & Help (and similar sections in the Local boards) would be the most natural "cage" for newbies - in other sub-forums they should only be able to post on threads created by others.

Maybe one could also create a minimum length - for example, 100 words - for newbie posts (at least in the on-topic boards). While they could try to circumvent this restriction with copy & paste, that would be clearly a violation of the forum rules and so these people can then be instantly banned.

[nakamura12]

Nope this will never solve the problem there are daily so many users joining the forum and overtime users will get bored of it and stop verifying it, i was also a newbie at a point and i would never love to wait for several hours or even days just to get my post approved, yes there is lot of spamming going on in ico threads but only solution is hiring more moderators and we reporting more and more posts

To me this just looks like another unnecessary thread made you are saying 100+ members can be hired right who has the sufficient time to first check if they are worth to be hired and then after they are hired checking his accuracy is again a waste of time

A perfect solution for this is time, all these threads made are just looking for a quick solution but we a solution which works in the long run as i have said in past we just need few more moderators and instead of spending time on writing such long and useless posts go and report them , nowadays there is no second chance i have moderators are straight away banning users which are spamming

Edit : See this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats daily 400+ newbies are joining and let's say each of them make 1-2 posts daily just imagine how much time it will waste just to review their posts

It not will be a thread. More like "show waiting approval posts"
100+ members, plus admins, mods, DT members. everyone to check 10 posts daily it is 1000+ possible posts less in the air.
Do you think that this 400+ newbies daily, 400 new different persons?
If they know that his post needs to be approved, and maybe can wait few hours publish probably they will stop trying.

I agree, I'd rather stop posting rather than waiting for approval. Admins, mods, and other members won't bother checking your post. For me your solution is not the right solution for problem bitcointalk facing, merit system lessen spam a bit already as we all know there's still spammers in this forum.

[audaciousbeing]

Now we have a problem with Newbie -great project- spammers and only options are is to report them to the moderator. Then mods going to delete those post but that has already happened. This is a suggestion how to prevent spam emerging.
With limiting the number of posts which Newbie(i think Jr.members need to be in this group) can post daily, it is necessary to get approval for each post before publishing. So it can't be published any post without approving from forum moderators. Yes there can be a problem it is a lot of job for forum admins and mods, but this can be facilitated if more members are included in the moderation.
How does it look? By default, moderators, admins and DT members can approve or deny publishing new posts from Newbie and Jr.members  plus there is need to add for example +100 other verified members which can vote/approve post to be published.
So, all of the new posts must have 5 votes to be approved or 2/3 of quotas set. In this way, the ability to manipulate multi-accounters would be reduced. Multi accounts owner if they pass verification can't manipulate to publish their alternative accounts posts.
Allowed posts going to be published, denied going to trash. Accounts with 30 posts and 90% denied posts going to be banned(numbers and percents is just for example)
Verified spam-catcher members would be interested in moderate and vote for post-approval, maybe they can get some benefit here. Something like merit but can be named Karma points. this points can be used as a multiplier which can help them to improve his forum rank. Also, they have a limit how much votes can do it daily, then he can't improving rank only in that way. Verified users need to have 80% accuracy rate of his votes or will be removed from this list.
This would make it much more difficult for airdrops, ANN bumps, Bounty account farmers and I think from there comes the most of this shitty posts

I read your recommendations and while I must commend the thought put into it, its going to be more difficult to implement than the way we are seeing it. The forum is a large platform  with several complex issues to add this to it would mean more complexities. We have Mods but they are not machines, we have DT members but they are also human, we equally have high ranking members too but they are not infallible to mistakes.

What I am trying to say is the problem won't just go away like that but a gradual push by move us closer to what we want. The merit system is still the best thing to happen and if we can plug all of those people exploiting this policy, I am sure the community will be better of which it has been doing since the commencement of this era.

[radar19]

Now we have a problem with Newbie -great project- spammers and only options are is to report them to the moderator. Then mods going to delete those post but that has already happened. This is a suggestion how to prevent spam emerging.
With limiting the number of posts which Newbie(i think Jr.members need to be in this group) can post daily, it is necessary to get approval for each post before publishing. So it can't be published any post without approving from forum moderators. Yes there can be a problem it is a lot of job for forum admins and mods, but this can be facilitated if more members are included in the moderation.
How does it look? By default, moderators, admins and DT members can approve or deny publishing new posts from Newbie and Jr.members  plus there is need to add for example +100 other verified members which can vote/approve post to be published.
So, all of the new posts must have 5 votes to be approved or 2/3 of quotas set. In this way, the ability to manipulate multi-accounters would be reduced. Multi accounts owner if they pass verification can't manipulate to publish their alternative accounts posts.
Allowed posts going to be published, denied going to trash. Accounts with 30 posts and 90% denied posts going to be banned(numbers and percents is just for example)
Verified spam-catcher members would be interested in moderate and vote for post-approval, maybe they can get some benefit here. Something like merit but can be named Karma points. this points can be used as a multiplier which can help them to improve his forum rank. Also, they have a limit how much votes can do it daily, then he can't improving rank only in that way. Verified users need to have 80% accuracy rate of his votes or will be removed from this list.
This would make it much more difficult for airdrops, ANN bumps, Bounty account farmers and I think from there comes the most of this shitty posts

my friend, I do not think that it will help to change situation. This forum is living organism with it's own rules and now it is on stage of stabilizing after new rules (merit) appeared. Give it some time.

[Micorpy]

Newbies should not be prevented from the forum because they will also later become a *big fish to learn from their contributions.

[jvdp]

Newbies should not be prevented from the forum because they will also later become a *big fish to learn from their contributions.

There is not any prevented steps against newbies. You can see the good investors and and learning in your rank only most of the time. If you do the good quality posts then you do not need to worry about the spamming and all.
I think you may take the merit system is against you guys but factor it will regulate the quality posters to the forum.

[pugman]

Newbies should not be prevented from the forum because they will also later become a *big fish to learn from their contributions.

Don't worry this will never happen, even if it did, there will be exceptions to this like buying a copper membership or any other membership or something. theymos believes in free speech. He won't let innocent people pay for some scumbags.

[Muzika]

Newbies should not be prevented from the forum because they will also later become a *big fish to learn from their contributions.

pioneer here in forum knows what newbie does, that is why forum give solution to that, they put merit system so that forum wont be abused by spammers and farmers.

If you know forum well you can post with a quality and by that many can help you to become a big fish by sending you merit.

[icalical]

I think your suggestion is a lot of work to do, even though it might work. Here is my suggestion, I think limiting their access to certain section will give more impact, it will also prevent them from spamming because of bounty. For example, we can limit Newbies account so that they may only post on Beginner and Help section. Then we can add Local Boards and Other for Jr. Member. All section will be available when account reach Full Member. Member account can access the whole forum except Marketplace.

[TheEconomists]

Well i don't believe that spamming is only limited to newbies and Jr Members who don't have much to say in the forum but higher ranks do more of spam post as they are always in paid campaign and they need to meet up with their minimum post required for the week.
I think it will be better for the campaign Managers to reduce the minimum post per week and the pay out but increase the number of participants which i think will help reduce spamming since the participants will not be desperate to meet up with the minimum post and deadline.

[dionisi]

With limiting the number of posts which Newbie(i think Jr.members need to be in this group) can post daily, it is necessary to get approval for each post before publishing. So it can't be published any post without approving from forum moderators. Yes there can be a problem it is a lot of job for forum admins and mods, but this can be facilitated if more members are included in the moderation.

1) This is not a good suggestion. A newbie might be joining here to ask some doubt and delay in approval will make him go to alternative forums.

2) Problem 1 can be solved with the suggestion you gave, having a lot of members in moderation team. Are we prepared for that ? The staff might be having an idea  based on how many members participate in such activities already like reporting posts here.

[athanz88]

Lets be honest here. Who want to log in to the forum and must review posts which probably they dont like? Well i dont want to , especially if it is happen everyday, and if it is free, because not everybody has a lot of free time in this world and even if they do i guess they will be using it in another great way.

[Shamie1002]

I think not only Newbies and Jr. Members are the possible and spammers already. Let us face it, everyone can be spammers and shit posters.
Limiting the number of posts will not be beneficial at all. Some newbies or low rank members can be like nullius (praising him ) as of knowledge and information.
I think the merit system along with the reporters and moderators are already doing great job.

[RealMean55]

Just block posting by them on most of the boards.

Well, I don't think Blocking Newbies and JRs out of certain boards will be of much help. They will simply post the trash in the boards where they are allowed to post. This is to say that the areas they are allowed to post in are of less importance to the forum that anything is acceptable in it. Besides, some of these Newbies and JRs. may be very knowledgeable  in the blocked boards and restricting their posts will not only deny them the chance to share their rich knowledge, but also deny forum members of a probably helpful information.
Having a newbie account doesn't necessarily mean that the owners are new to crypto matters

[cakmabokgot]

Interesting.
So what is the next step?
Newbies paying 0,1 btc per post in 2019?

[Roboabhishek]

Now we have a problem with Newbie -great project- spammers and only options are is to report them to the moderator. Then mods going to delete those post but that has already happened. This is a suggestion how to prevent spam emerging.
With limiting the number of posts which Newbie(i think Jr.members need to be in this group) can post daily, it is necessary to get approval for each post before publishing. So it can't be published any post without approving from forum moderators. Yes there can be a problem it is a lot of job for forum admins and mods, but this can be facilitated if more members are included in the moderation.
How does it look? By default, moderators, admins and DT members can approve or deny publishing new posts from Newbie and Jr.members  plus there is need to add for example +100 other verified members which can vote/approve post to be published.
So, all of the new posts must have 5 votes to be approved or 2/3 of quotas set. In this way, the ability to manipulate multi-accounters would be reduced. Multi accounts owner if they pass verification can't manipulate to publish their alternative accounts posts.
Allowed posts going to be published, denied going to trash. Accounts with 30 posts and 90% denied posts going to be banned(numbers and percents is just for example)
Verified spam-catcher members would be interested in moderate and vote for post-approval, maybe they can get some benefit here. Something like merit but can be named Karma points. this points can be used as a multiplier which can help them to improve his forum rank. Also, they have a limit how much votes can do it daily, then he can't improving rank only in that way. Verified users need to have 80% accuracy rate of his votes or will be removed from this list.
This would make it much more difficult for airdrops, ANN bumps, Bounty account farmers and I think from there comes the most of this shitty posts

Most of the SPAM is done in Altcoins & Bounty section by these users, there had been a case in which 1 person was having more than 50 accounts Jr-Member and spamming the forum for the sake of bounty.
But yea if you can limit the accounts ranging Newbie-Member from posting in Altcoin bounty section of the forum then it will definitely help to reduce the SPAM caused for the sake of bounties.