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August 02, 2011, 08:20:34 AM |
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I give him a shot, what we have to lose? at list there is a try!
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hugolp
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August 02, 2011, 08:23:20 AM |
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It's kind of ironic that the community doesn't trust Joe average to back up his wallet properly but has blind faith that Bitcoin related services will keep multiple back ups of their data. Honestly, backing up your wallet.dat is not that hard. Anyone can get three cd's and make three copies. There is no excuse. Being a business is harder because new addresses are created and you have to do it regularly but still, its nothing specially complicated. For being so technologically intelligent, I think what you said is completely idiotic. This kind of naivete only adds to peoples' reluctance to join Bitcoin. Yep, everyone knows how to back-up a hidden file and recover it without risk of losing their BTC in the event something goes wrong. Sure. Sure they do. Edit: I'll give you being a business is harder. So you think copying a file (wallet.dat) into a couple of cd's or usb drivers or whatever is something only people with a computer science degree can do? How hard is to copy a file in a couple of cd's? |
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the joint
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August 02, 2011, 08:36:00 AM |
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It's kind of ironic that the community doesn't trust Joe average to back up his wallet properly but has blind faith that Bitcoin related services will keep multiple back ups of their data. Honestly, backing up your wallet.dat is not that hard. Anyone can get three cd's and make three copies. There is no excuse. Being a business is harder because new addresses are created and you have to do it regularly but still, its nothing specially complicated. For being so technologically intelligent, I think what you said is completely idiotic. This kind of naivete only adds to peoples' reluctance to join Bitcoin. Yep, everyone knows how to back-up a hidden file and recover it without risk of losing their BTC in the event something goes wrong. Sure. Sure they do. Edit: I'll give you being a business is harder. So you think copying a file (wallet.dat) into a couple of cd's or usb drivers or whatever is something only people with a computer science degree can do? How hard is to copy a file in a couple of cd's? First of all, flash drives are very unreliable. I copied mine to a flash drive and the thing broke and I didn't even have to touch it. That's what happens when a USB has a poor soldering job. Second of all, ask my mom or dad how easy it is to do. Go ahead. I dare you. Then tell them that depending on your computer's settings the file might be hidden when you search for it. Then tell them how to uncover the file. Then tell them how to retrieve the coins in the event that the original wallet is lost. See how 'easy' it is for them to understand. And these are middle class citizens who have had a computer in their home for ~ 20 years -- the 'average' population. Contrary to what you think, many people don't even own computers let alone have a clue how to begin to navigate one. You just lost most of the 50+ generation if they were to read that. |
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lacedwithkerosene
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August 02, 2011, 08:39:26 AM
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This idea was conceived on the somethingawful forums. One member outlined a plan to make this post if someone could get him a mybitcoin logo. So no, its not Tom Williams.
But there's stairs in this thread.
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petercyr
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August 02, 2011, 08:40:24 AM |
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I think the point is, if you understand bitcoin and understand how to setup a service like this, backing up the bitcoin wallet would be the least of their concern... There's simply no excuse and believing that it could actually be true is an insult to these people's intelligence.
Not that I want to give them too much credit, its still hard to believe someone would't have at least a couple backups..
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Gabi
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August 02, 2011, 08:46:20 AM |
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Luckily i have 0 bitcoins in these online services and what else.
Also if an attacker get access to wallet.dat it can simply move them to another wallet
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Departure
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August 02, 2011, 08:48:22 AM |
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Guys please... Think about the real Tom Williams skilled enough to create a website such as "mybitcoin" and has been running this site for a long time now, In other words he knows how bitcoin works and has the skills. Do you really believe there is no backup and buy into the FBI story?? come on he has probably been around bitcoin longer than most of us here going by the amount of time the site has been up and running. Sorry im not buying this at all....
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the joint
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August 02, 2011, 08:50:06 AM |
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Guys please... Think about the real Tom Williams skilled enough to create a website such as "mybitcoin" and has been running this site for a long time now, In other words he knows how bitcoin works and has the skills. Do you really believe there is no backup and buy into the FBI story?? come on he has probably been around bitcoin longer than most of us here going by the amount of time the site has been up and running. Sorry im not buying this at all....
Exactly. It's far more plausible he ran with them  |
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Gabi
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August 02, 2011, 08:51:57 AM |
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Guys please... Think about the real Tom Williams skilled enough to create a website such as "mybitcoin" and has been running this site for a long time now, In other words he knows how bitcoin works and has the skills. Do you really believe there is no backup and buy into the FBI story?? come on he has probably been around bitcoin longer than most of us here going by the amount of time the site has been up and running. Sorry im not buying this at all....
He called the CYBERPOLICE conseguences will never be the same  |
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FreeMoney
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August 02, 2011, 08:53:40 AM |
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This is not the owner of mybitcoin.
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makomk
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August 02, 2011, 09:00:29 AM |
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Is this a system you have physical access to? Chances are you could use something like recuva or encase to recover a wallet.dat file since in most cases "deleting" something doesn't really delete anything at all... Depends on the filesystem/OS/etc of course, and it certainly wouldn't count as "touching" the system since you're only reading data. As far as I know, my utility for recovering bitcoin private keys is probably still the best option - though it doesn't recover any other information from the wallet.dat like account information, and obviously it can't recover any external databases used to store account details. A lot of recovery tools are based on file magic numbers, and BDB doesn't seem to have any obvious ones. (Of course, that would only help in the unlikely event the original post isn't a troll.) This idea was conceived on the somethingawful forums. One member outlined a plan to make this post if someone could get him a mybitcoin logo. So no, its not Tom Williams.
But there's stairs in this thread.
Where? I don't remember seeing any mention of this, but I haven't looked hard and it sounds plausible... |
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lacedwithkerosene
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August 02, 2011, 09:04:03 AM |
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This idea was conceived on the somethingawful forums. One member outlined a plan to make this post if someone could get him a mybitcoin logo. So no, its not Tom Williams.
But there's stairs in this thread.
Where? I don't remember seeing any mention of this, but I haven't looked hard and it sounds plausible...
A poster on page 366 of the GBS thread came up with the idea and said to PM him the logo and he would edit out that part of the post. He apparently got the logo and the post was indeed edited. |
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Oldminer
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August 02, 2011, 09:21:58 AM |
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mods should close this thread imo
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August 02, 2011, 09:44:33 AM |
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OP is not owner of mybitcoin.com thread frozen.
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