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February 11, 2011, 07:23:44 PM
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O.k - i already said sorry countless times - so enough of that and i should prove i am sorry.

This is the deal, i owe quite a few of you a "bit" of bitcoins - especially noagendamarket and bitlex. This is what i can offer in exchange for the trouble and stupidiness i have caused.

- PHP work - i can design sites related to bitocin and bitcoin automation.
- Mobile Minutes - i currently can buy $50 worth of mobile minutes.
-  Data Input - Im pretty good at database work.
- Motorla Q phone - with page plus cellular.


Thats what i currently i have/can do. This list will be updated as soon as i can get more "stuff".

As many of the people i have hurt said "I dont trust you", "you might run away" ect.. i may be a lier and a gambler but i still have some pride and i want to prove i want to make things right.  I am a idiot gambler that is selfish - i know that, but i want to make things right.
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February 11, 2011, 07:26:14 PM
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Why can't you just pay them back?

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February 11, 2011, 07:28:13 PM
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Why can't you just pay them back?
I would if i could, but i gambled everything they lent me - noagendamarket himself lent me 3,000 bitcoins on around oct. kinda hard to pay back over 4,000 bitcoins in debt with no income i have.
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February 11, 2011, 07:31:25 PM
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Why can't you just pay them back?
I would if i could, but i gambled everything they lent me - noagendamarket himself lent me 3,000 bitcoins on around oct. kinda hard to pay back over 4,000 bitcoins in debt with no income i have.
Just go bankrupt buddy

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February 11, 2011, 07:32:36 PM
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Just go bankrupt buddy

Bankrupt?  Huh

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February 11, 2011, 07:36:36 PM
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To me that means, "ok guys, I'm broke, obviously no way that I'm going to repay you all, here's my stuff, now let's have a fresh start"
Guess it doesn't sound very funny if he owes yo money...

Also to me it somehow raises the whole question of lending in a deflationary currency.

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February 11, 2011, 07:38:18 PM
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Why can't you just pay them back?

If he has spent all the bitcoins, and no one trusts him to do business with him he cant. His only option is to either buy bitcoins with cash ( which he may or maynot have, and considering the price increase of bitcoims that could turn out to be quite a lot) or he can just give to his creditors the goods and services he would have otherwise traded for bitcoins, of course before doing so both agree on how much this will knkock off the debt.

I think noagenda shouod be paid back first since he is owed the largest amount( as far as I know), perhaps steve could give us the details of exactly who and how much he owes to.

This is kind of the bitcoin version of bankruptsy.

Also people should not lend more than they can afford to lose( to the lenders, including me)

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February 11, 2011, 07:39:43 PM
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Why can't you just pay them back?

If he has spent all the bitcoins, and no one trusts him to do business with him he cant. His only option is to either buy bitcoins with cash ( which he may or maynot have, and considering the price increase of bitcoims that could turn out to be quite a lot) or he can just give to his creditors the goods and services he would have otherwise traded for bitcoins, of course before doing so both agree on how much this will knkock off the debt.

I think noagenda shouod be paid back first since he is owed the largest amount( as far as I know), perhaps steve could give us the details of exactly who and how much he owes to.

This is kind of the bitcoin version of bankruptsy.

Also people should not lend more than they can afford to lose( to the lenders, including me)

Good idea - i will update the thread a bit later on who i owe and how much. thanks.
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February 11, 2011, 07:40:18 PM
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To me that means, "ok guys, I'm broke, obviously no way that I'm going to repay you all, here's my stuff, now let's have a fresh start"
Guess it doesn't sound very funny if he owes yo money...

Well, I have not see yet any negotiation between the parties about how to erase his debt.  I thought he's offering his free services to the people who owe him.

Plus, didn't he supposed to do some promised works?

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February 11, 2011, 07:41:24 PM
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> Also to me it somehow raises the whole question of lending in a deflationary currency

Yeah, it seems the result is that the chance a lender will not recieve back the amount is higher.

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February 11, 2011, 07:44:46 PM
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Also people should not lend more than they can afford to lose( to the lenders, including me)
And not lend for the purpose of gambling. What were you guys thinking?

When you lend money, you're gambling that you'll get it back. I find it funny that stevenbucks lost the funds to gambling himself.

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February 11, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
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And not lend for the purpose of gambling. What were you guys thinking?

When you lend money, you're gambling that you'll get it back. I find it funny that stevenbucks lost the funds to gambling himself.

We live and learn...

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February 11, 2011, 07:56:23 PM
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We live and learn...
Indeed. Unfortunately it seems that stevenbucks crossed the only folks he ever worked for, so now he'll have trouble with references.

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February 11, 2011, 08:03:34 PM
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I would say that whenever he's doing some work for someone from now on, the payment should be sent directly to the people he owes money.

On the other hand, letting him give it back himself could be a good exercise for him.

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February 11, 2011, 08:04:37 PM
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I would say that whenever he's doing some work for someone from now on, the payment should be sent directly to the people he owes money.

That's a good idea, actually.

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February 11, 2011, 08:09:06 PM
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I would say that whenever he's doing some work for someone from now on, the payment should be sent directly to the people he owes money.

That's a good idea, actually.

could be made a part of the bail bond system.

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February 11, 2011, 08:24:56 PM
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Proposal:

I will pay 8 BTC for a $10 T-Mobile To Go refill code as offered in the other thread, under the following terms:

1. You must send the code first.  Once I receive it and successfully apply it to my account, I will send the bitcoins.
2. I will send the bitcoins directly to someone that you owe bitcoins to.

This requires agreement by both stevenbucks and someone who is owed bitcoins.  Any volunteers?  The bitcoin receiving address should be posted to the thread so anyone can verify that the payment was made.
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February 11, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
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Proposal:

I will pay 8 BTC for a $10 T-Mobile To Go refill code as offered in the other thread, under the following terms:

1. You must send the code first.  Once I receive it and successfully apply it to my account, I will send the bitcoins.
2. I will send the bitcoins directly to someone that you owe bitcoins to.

This requires agreement by both stevenbucks and someone who is owed bitcoins.  Any volunteers?  The bitcoin receiving address should be posted to the thread so anyone can verify that the payment was made.


I agree to this, but im not sure who get it first - i owe noagendamarket and bitlex the most and for the longest persiod of time, should i pay the ones who i owe the least "to take care of them" first, im not sure what to do
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February 11, 2011, 08:37:46 PM
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Proposal:

I will pay 8 BTC for a $10 T-Mobile To Go refill code as offered in the other thread, under the following terms:

1. You must send the code first.  Once I receive it and successfully apply it to my account, I will send the bitcoins.
2. I will send the bitcoins directly to someone that you owe bitcoins to.

This requires agreement by both stevenbucks and someone who is owed bitcoins.  Any volunteers?  The bitcoin receiving address should be posted to the thread so anyone can verify that the payment was made.


I agree to this, but im not sure who get it first - i owe noagendamarket and bitlex the most and for the longest persiod of time, should i pay the ones who i owe the least "to take care of them" first, im not sure what to do

noagenda first, bitlex second. I;m probably last.

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February 11, 2011, 08:40:02 PM
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noagendamarket - is not online atm, and i want to see if i can do some php work for him for free.'

I have contacted bitlex but no reply from them, so i dont know what to do but wait till they reply.

I just want the people i owe to say what they want so i can begin working on repairing the situation im in.
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