[PRE-ANN] Wisp Project [WISP] Alternative SpectreCoin wallet - Community driven

[hroub]

i better comment here to keep ups what is going on

You could have just clicked on the watch or notify buttons in the bottom right of the thread  

[Gandalf86]

Wisp News

The current development state of the wallet implementing the fork has been put online: https://github.com/wispproject/wallet

We welcome any contributors who can check the recent commits for errors or would like to help finishing the fork implementation! You can make pull requests, which will be reviewed and merged by JBG. Contributors who continue to send in high quality commits over a period of time will receive the "Contributor" status on Discord and may be granted push access to the code repository.

[sirsplashalot]

if anyone feels like doing some code review, the BUIP-HF Digest work is in https://github.com/wispproject/wallet/commit/b0cf334cdaebfe22635d87ca79ddb40733d5f9ff

[Nebell]

How is this progressing?

[p3ngu1n]

Need more infomation(Roadmap,whitepaper etc)

[Gandalf86]

How is this progressing?

Very slowly. Read on Discord about what is being discussed please. Everything is fully transparent.

Need more infomation(Roadmap,whitepaper etc)

https://github.com/wispproject/doc/wiki/Roadmap

This project is still in its infancy, we haven't even started the fork yet. You will get more information like the greater vision, goals etc. in the real ANN that announces the fork.

[Gandalf86]

Wisp News

Attention all developers please! We are looking to increase the size our development team, because JBG doesn't want to be the only one coding on this. Having a large group of developers is vital for a project like this. So if you are a C++ developer and would like to help and do some interesting coding tasks for this project, please get in touch with @jbg in the #development channel of our Discord! Recurring contributors will receive the "Contributor" role in Discord and will be able to chat in #contributor_chat , and some Github issues have bounties attached to provide an financial incentive. Looking forward to hearing from you!  

I think your project gives us less information. Could you give us more information about it? I want to ask about the purpose of this project?

The Pre-ANN post on the first page should give you a good picture, if there is anything still unclear please ask!

[stonesourcery]

here's another possibility for an exchange to get WISP listed on - voting is going on now for dev's to gauge popularity of projects

https://altcoin.io/      exchange

https://altcoinexchange.featureupvote.com/?      suggest coin

looking forward to WISP launch and enjoying all the incremental developments on the website & in GithHub etc.
keep up the good efforts team

[stonesourcery]

a bit of light relief found on another forum

Question:   "Any update on this update?"


coin whisperer "Its getting closer to release month after month."

[CleanCutKid]

Wisp (the parasitic twin of Spectrecoin)

We all knew this was coming. More delays, excuses. Wisp is an alternative wallet for Spectrecoin. No new coin, no clone or fork or anything. Let's just parasite onto Spectre and hope that they fork at some point and in the mean time we will live off their work.

Parasite: "an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense."
Translated to crypto world (strictly speaking Wisp universe): "a crypto-project-in-thought which lives off another real crypto-project (it's host network) and benefits by deriving exposure at the other's expense"

Parasitic Twin: "the smaller and less completely developed member of a pair of unequal conjoined twins, often consisting of an amorphous mass of tissue attached to or within the larger twin."
Translated to crypto world (strictly speaking Wisp universe): "the smaller and not at all developed self-proclaimed member of a pair of unequal crypto-projects, often consisting of a shapeless mass of incompetence attached to the larger proper crypto-project"

Consider this: now, our all fav dev jbg has updated the Wisp repo from the updated Spectre repo after Spectre has been hard at work over the last weeks. jbg, a fav dev of unfathomable capacity to wait and wait until someone else does what he promises. jbg is now waiting for someone else to make something that he can pass off as stealth staking.

WTF is he doing all day. Please disregard this farce of a so called "project".  What we all knew all along 

[Gandalf86]

Wisp News

I am happy to announce that we managed to refine our vision for Wisp and found a way to continue this project in a more reasonable technical manner! When this project started, we found that Wisp would need to split off of Spectrecoin because of incompatible development philosophies. The original plan was to fork the blockchain artificially, so that we would have our own blockchain (and with it our own "coin") to work with. Unfortunately this approach would have come at the cost of coherency, because from a technical point of view, a blockchain is only forked by a consensus disagreement, i.e. when different clients ("wallets") carry out incompatible protocols. By introducing an artificial incompatibility, we would continuously have to defend our right to exist, because technically it wouldn't be necessary.

For that reason, we decided on a better way to continue this project, that is technically coherent and still allows us to turn our vision of Wisp into reality. This idea may require some time to wrap your head around if you are new to cryptocurrencies, but actually makes a lot more sense. The idea is that we will consider Wisp to be an alternative wallet for Spectrecoin! That means that we will NOT fork the Spectrecoin blockchain artificially, and will NOT make a coin called WISP right now.

Instead, we will leave it an option to fork into an independent coin IF at some point in the future there will be a consensus disagreement, e.g. if the Spectrecoin team decides to integrate forced development fees into the protocol. In that case, a hardfork would occur, and Wisp would maintain the original protocol without such a fee. The same thing would happen if the Wisp developers introduce a change that the Spectrecoin team does not agree with.

If there is no consensus disagreement, i.e. if the Spectrecoin consensus protocol is perfectly usable for realizing our vision of Wisp, we will not need a fork. Instead, we will be offering an alternative wallet for Spectrecoin users, called Wisp Wallet, that does not contain a so called "minimum donation" and allows the users to access the Spectrecoin blockchain in the way envisioned by us.

By going this way, we have the full freedom to develop Wisp in the way we like, while at the same time offering Spectrecoin users an alternative to the software produced by Mandica & Co.. This will also strengthen the Spectrecoin ecosystem overall, because development will no longer depend on one single team of developers! Which results in reliability improvements and should increase the trust in the future of this project.

Sorry if this announcement has become a little too lengthy or too technical for you.  Please feel free to ask if there are any further questions!  A short summary can be found here: https://github.com/wispproject/doc/wiki/About-Wisp I will update the PRE-ANN here and make a new ANN thread for the Wisp wallet soon. Stay tuned. 

[Beachguy2]

You've got to be kidding me.  

footnote:
I'm on a new account because my original "legendary" one Ive had for many years was hacked and I immediately locked it...only to realize that BCT accounts can only be recovered if it includes a btC address to assist in recovery.

[blockchainbits26]

LOL. All these "updates" over the last month and a half and the end result is... nothing. Easy to see why the XSpec community grew tired of JBG, it's just one empty promise after another.

To be clear, I don't mind that there's no fork, since nobody had high hopes for WISP anyway, but since buying into XSpec in January I haven't seen JBG accomplish much of anything despite making promises several times. Maybe he shouldn't have been so defensive when he was called out, since the XSpec community continues to be proven correct.

Thanks for the updates Gandalf, truly, but even if XSpec does somehow fork, I can say confidently I will simply sell my WISP coins immediately.

[Zer0Sum]

You've got to be kidding me.  

footnote:
I'm on a new account because my original "legendary" one Ive had for many years was hacked and I immediately locked it...only to realize that BCT accounts can only be recovered if it includes a btC address to assist in recovery.

Ya man, the last "WISP News" is complete bullshit and "technically incoherent"...
They simple do not even have the most basic Dev chops to do a trivial fork.

Gandolf always seemed like a standup guy...
So maybe he's being held hostage and suffering from Stockholm Syndrome...
And it's reassuring that realBeachGuy has has called home... from the beach, of course.

[Gandalf86]

Ya man, the last "WISP News" is complete bullshit and "technically incoherent"...
They simple do not even have the most basic Dev chops to do a trivial fork.

A "trivial fork" does not make any sense. A real blockchain fork is not something desirable, it is unfortunately necessary when there is a consensus disagreement within the community of users and developers of that project. For example when changing block sizes, making procedural protocol changes etc.. Many people have called for a fork even if they didn't know what it means. It always felt a little weird to me, and now I am happy that we were able to agree on going the rational path and not trying to split the blockchain artificially.

Instead, what is currently required is to provide an alternative to the wallet being produced by the official Spectrecoin team, since they are trying to force development fees from their users via the stake rewards, which is an alarming tendency. The Wisp Project now has a stronger foundation than ever, and we're continuing to develop Spectrecoin like originally envisioned. We hope that this alone will motivate the Spectrecoin team find more reasonable ways of collecting funding from their users, and we will always maintain the blockchain protocol that respects the freedom of its users. 

[jeankinkadekia]

So, this is the fork of the Spectrecoin? The Spectre is one of the successful ICO in which the coin is now very valuable. Can Wisp Project follow the success?

[oxb]

wisp short for:

Wait
Insanely long for
Shit that will never be
Produced

[Gandalf86]

It looks like Spectrecoin is indeed going to implement forced development fees into the protocol: https://github.com/spectrecoin/spectre/pull/43

So that means, if this hardfork happens, Wisp would maintain the original SpectreCoin chain, so then there would be two independent chains. Wisp would be "Spectre Classic" so to say, as it is the version of the blockchain that does not change the protocol.

We believe that every user should have the freedom to decide on himself whether to donate money to a project or not. Nobody should be forced to give money away. Instead of hiring developers, Wisp is aiming to build a community of open source developers who work on improving the Wisp wallet.

If you are a developer, please join our Discord that is linked in the ANN.  

[oxb]

Blah blah blabberdieblah.
 
People please look at the timeline of wisp and the promises made, even a retard will see its toplevel bullshit.
And every time the same marketing propaganda is beeing spread "spectrecoin has forced donation".

Although the whole tree hugging enviromental save the world from big brother idea is actually not bad , it will never be.
You will keep hearing the same shit over and over again until youre stomach turns and you can feel the vomit coming up.

And offcourse i will be labeled a troll because that will be the end of the discussion.

USE YOURE MIND READ UP ON THIS PROJECT AND ESPECIALLY THE GREAT DEV JBG.

And then you will see it is a load of bs.

Invest youre money in things you can actually see or touch and dont be misled by lambo comments.
Goodluck and stay clear from wisp.

[Gandalf86]

It's important to understand how blockchain projects work. Forking or not forking is not a matter that does solely depend on a few people. It's a matter of consensus. We're just a group of people who have our own ideas and ideals of what Spectrecoin should be, and about how users should be treated. Whether a fork happens or not depends largely on the degree to which the official Spectrecoin team is trying to enforce development fees. This has nothing to do with our development effort or the size of the team, nor the size of the community. Right now there seem to be only a few people who see development fees as being a problem, but the situation might change in the future.

We're currently looking for a Qt developer who can spice up our copy of the Spectrecoin wallet a bit (changing logos etc.), but it doesn't really matter. What matters are the NODES that are run by the different parts of the Spectrecoin community, that run certain versions of the protocol.