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May 30, 2018, 05:20:49 AM
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A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.
Yeah maybe it's done by them, whales usually have a very large amount of bitcoin, if they sell most of their coins of course it will affect the market, so in general they can manipulate with the amount of coins they have, especially if the news support it, of course price manipulation will be successful
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May 30, 2018, 05:40:20 AM
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The whales usually manipulates bitcoin value by getting all their investment on crypto or by making a large investment in it. Regarding this, the crypto value becomes affected and goes up or down depending on what the whale do. The principle used is supply and demand.
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May 30, 2018, 06:24:56 AM
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in my opinion "whales" manipulate market price conditions by mocking prices when bad news instantly destroys bitcoin after it raise again and do it repeatedly.
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May 30, 2018, 06:52:31 AM
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I think whales has community and they work together to make the price pump or dump, usually they consist of early adopter that have athousand of BTC. Actually we can also make huge profit from it because the price will huge going up, and we need whales to do that.

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May 30, 2018, 07:12:40 AM
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A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.

Actually from what I assume, it is usually like this!

Traders are trying to look out for the direction the market is tending towards which they obviously act on and with that, the whales after buying a lot at the bottom which is called accumulation phase, they tend to use some little amount left to push the market up.

Normally, there would be response to this by traders, investors, name them, and this stage the fear of missing out starts, they let this go on and in between it all, they sell from the little pumps, and buy back at some support levels with that little to move it up the more until they get to the main part where they feel satisfied, and then they distribute, sell and repeat the same process back down, which we sometimes call correction.

For a speculative market, low cap, where we even have a lot of wannabe traders, it makes their work even easier.
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May 30, 2018, 07:25:31 AM
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If a group of whales starts manipulating the prices of a certain coin then it is highly impossible to know or understand the exact manipulation, traders will lose their money if they buy these coins in the pump.

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May 30, 2018, 10:39:09 AM
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In the marketplace the only player can manipulate the price because of his great contribution and indeed no one can know when it will happen because only the hiyu fish knows about it. In the world of cryptocurrancy this is a big advantage that has a big investment.
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May 30, 2018, 10:43:44 AM
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If a group of whales starts manipulating the prices of a certain coin then it is highly impossible to know or understand the exact manipulation, traders will lose their money if they buy these coins in the pump.
That's right, the whales have its own groups they can easily connect with each other and easy to take over, the price will simply pumped and new
comers will fomo and make their move to invest without knowing that they will be trapped, the whales will simply dumped everything when they
already feel that they've got a huge earnings.
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May 30, 2018, 05:04:23 PM
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Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins. If you can spot this id means you are also a whales too. I only have general sense of that but i have some questions about it. This is an easy way for them to jake money. Is there a way to spot it? some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of usd in btc. It will cause a dump for the market.
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May 31, 2018, 08:43:38 AM
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in my opinion "whales" manipulate market price conditions by mocking prices when bad news instantly destroys bitcoin after it raise again and do it repeatedly.
Except for a market where there is a real demand and daily life usage, there will always be whale activity driving the market. This is the reason why you see pump and dump even in some altcoins.

What they do is to play with the market in a way that would send the signals to traders or the likes, but one thing is that they know what they are doing, they already bought a lot during accumulation which makes it easy for them to drive the price up. If you are holding a huge position, it is just like eating cake, smiling as you see the chart movement and the response as it becomes so easy to rinse and repeat.
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June 03, 2018, 03:29:02 PM
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The whales usually manipulates bitcoin value by getting all their investment on crypto or by making a large investment in it. Regarding this, the crypto value becomes affected and goes up or down depending on what the whale do. The principle used is supply and demand.
Not just bitcoin. As it can be any market as long as you have the bucks. It is easier though in the cryptocurrency market. All you just have to do as a whale is to look for a market that has bottomed out and you have the bucks to play with. Buy so much at the bottom, as much as you can, and then start using the rest of the bucks to push it up, response is normal when a market is showing sign of great movement and buying momentum, and in between those, you can keep driving it up the more you want and since you already bought a lot at the bottom, you are the winner at the end.
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June 03, 2018, 06:53:11 PM
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Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins. If you can spot this id means you are also a whales too. I only have general sense of that but i have some questions about it. This is an easy way for them to jake money. Is there a way to spot it? some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of usd in btc. It will cause a dump for the market.
I think that there is not a huge arithmetic here to guess how it all happens. it is thanks to its financial condition and a large number of crypto currency in its purses that these people are very active in influencing the market, regulating in their opinion the demand and supply of the crypto currency in the market.
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June 03, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
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These whales are referred as the powerfull and rich company or individuals.These people's have loads of money and they put all there money in single coin and that makes drastic change in that particular coin.This change is Soo big and suttle that people tend to believe in them and they also start investing in them. And after that they also start putting there money to make prices increase more.After certain point these whales withdraw there whole amount and sudden dip happens...
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June 03, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
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Depending on market conditions, on average I see them (whales) coming to the market if they have good information at least without them entering the market, cryptocurrency markets will go up. So they use this opportunity to outwit the users of cryptocurrency so that their steps are not suspected. In fact it is very easy for whales to get a big advantage in cryptocurrency, it's good if you are a trader joining with community signal to decide to sell or buy bitcoin and altcoin.

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June 03, 2018, 09:28:02 PM
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The whales are the major players, who hold a large percentage of the market.
There are various ways they can manipulate the market to either create panic or restore confidence.
In that way they control the market flow, and can lower the price and buy off at the bottom and then pump it and sell off at the top
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June 03, 2018, 10:04:16 PM
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The point of their action is to simply end up with more BTC, that requires FUD to initiate panic selling. Whales simply buy new things cheaper than 99% and then sell for profit. (VC, private sale)
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June 03, 2018, 10:31:59 PM
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Whales has a power to dictate the trading market of particular coins. If you can spot this id means you are also a whales too. I only have general sense of that but i have some questions about it. This is an easy way for them to jake money. Is there a way to spot it? some of them to lose but most of the time they are winning. I think that big players either have mining farms or they invested a lot of usd in btc. It will cause a dump for the market.
I think that there is not a huge arithmetic here to guess how it all happens. it is thanks to its financial condition and a large number of crypto currency in its purses that these people are very active in influencing the market, regulating in their opinion the demand and supply of the crypto currency in the market.
Whale investors are very wealthy people in the cryptocurrency market and when they target the coins they will buy a lot since it's very low value. As the market grows they will control the value of coins for their purposes, which is how many whales are used to dominate the coins.

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June 04, 2018, 09:04:06 AM
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A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.
They have the money to play out the market as they want and when you have a lot of money to play with a market that is even more speculative, it is somewhat easy to manipulate as a whale.

Whales buy at the bottom, and when they are doing this, they do not just hold few of those coins or tokens but a lot of it and as long as they do, it makes it so easy to start giving market impression by taking it higher and this is where traders who are educated gamblers get to kick in and start investing. So imagine yourself as a whale, even while driving the market up, you are still making a lot of money from that, let alone, what you have bought at the bottom.
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June 05, 2018, 04:58:50 AM
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A group of whale inject and withdraw investment massively which effect the market and most people get panic if market suddenly falls,this is the situation to hold with patience and never panic sell.Actually no one know the next step of whale but past history and events help to save money.
Yeah maybe it's done by them, whales usually have a very large amount of bitcoin, if they sell most of their coins of course it will affect the market, so in general they can manipulate with the amount of coins they have, especially if the news support it, of course price manipulation will be successful
Obviously, it is done by them. Whales practically play with emotions and they make use of that with the technical indicators. They are vast in trading and they know what traders are always looking out for and in this way, they more like play with emotions, and let people believe exactly what they want to believe with respect to the market movement. What gives them an edge is the fact that the market is full of FUDs, speculation, and inexperienced traders, and to top it up, a decentralized market, what an easy market to play with when you have a lot of funds to do that.

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June 05, 2018, 05:26:45 AM
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I often see the word 'manipulation' in cryptocurrency world. I only have general sense of that, but I have some questions about it. How exactly do these whales do this? Is there a way to spot it? And is there any chance these whales lose money?
wHo told you that whales manipulating the market?is there any links that might support your accusations?if none better stop making discussions that has no proof

Though i have heard this alot of times that whales are the reason why prices are pumping and dumping but yet nothing to prove,theres a thread that tells US government are making action to bring to jail this crypto manipulators but it will took a long before this really happens
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