Community opinion on these 2 accounts

[yahoo62278]

Normally I don't look for the communities opinion on much but in this case I would like to hear some reactions and thoughts. I was in the middle of grading Byteballs twitter campaign when I received these 2 pms within a few minutes of each other. As you can see the messages are pretty damn close to the same.

Should their neg trust stay? Are these pms enough to prove they're the same person? I'll leave this open for discussion for 24 hours

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[JustinBounty]

They are quite clearly same and if you have a rule of not allowing multiple entries from the same person then they deserve a negative feedback for trying to cheat the bounty campaign.
I am only surprised why will someone send quick messages with same body (almost) and with 177 and 178 sheet numbers respectively.

The fact that they have applied for signature campaign quite closely makes it obvious that they are same

On the other hand, I really feel bad for such guys working so hard just though doing the wrong thing.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

There is absolutely no way those two accounts can't be the same person--and this person is an extreme dumbass for doing this, though it turned out to be a good thing for the community (albeit not for him) since he's now tagged.  I reinforced your negative, Yahoo62278.  This proof is about as solid as you can get IMO.

I'm curious as to whether he's gong to show up here to defend himself and what his excuse is going to be.

[poptok1]

Those two PM's are damn similar to each other.
I think that nobody will hold a grudge against you for flagging those members. Such coincidences are rarely, truly coincidental  
Yet, as a prof of multi-account... tough nut to crack. If I were you, I would just ban them from my campaign and that's it, no extra red or accusations but that's just me. Maybe a simple PM from you with reprimand, rebuke and reprehension will make those guys behave?
You are a busy man, probably no time for a good investigation, I'm sure community will deliver  
Edit: on the other hand, calling people 'sir' in the internets deserves a BAN xD

[yahoo62278]

Those two PM's are damn similar to each other.
I think that nobody will hold a grudge against you for flagging those members. Such coincidences are rarely, truly coincidental  
Yet, as a prof of multi-account... tough nut to crack. If I were you, I would just ban them from my campaign and that's it, no extra red or accusations but that's just me. Maybe a simple PM from you with reprimand, rebuke and reprehension will make those guys behave?
You are a busy man, probably no time for a good investigation, I'm sure community will deliver  

I'm not worried about anyone holding a grudge. Many people like me as well as a few don't, life goes on either way. I have made thew accused aware that this thread is here and that he may respond.

As far as his neg goes, if the community deems these are not alts I will remove his paint. If the majority agrees as I am pretty sure will be the case, then his neg stays because IMO cheating any campaign is grounds for a neg.

[monalia]

These two accounts are using same person because merits also sharing simultaneously and PM also similar to both account. I think this merit system is easily identify the spam users in Crypto platform.

[eldrin]

Just checked their merits and they seems exchanged smerits. If only one person owns the two accounts, then he is not just abusing bounties, but merit system abuser as well.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I've joined this discussion to clear their account from having Neg Trust. Truly Satry is one of my Mentors here and she even lend me a money for my needs.[/size]

Yeah, were you in the same room with them when they sent what amounts to the exact same PM to Yahoo62278?  Why would two different people write the same message?  Why would the second message sender paraphrase the first message?

I don't buy it at all, and I've seen enough of this bullshit behavior by bounty spammers to not believe a story like you're spinning.  Let's hear what others have to say.  

Here comes the shitposting brigade to the rescue:

We cannot judge them, We can consider as coincidence or the one was copied the other post because they have a same issue.

This user deleted his/her post?

IMO these were not alts of each other but rather friends.

This user (and the one above) posts almost exclusively in the mega spam threads.  I wonder how they responded to this thread so fast.

I know you don't even give a shit on bounty spammers but this isn't the issue here.

Actuallly it very much is the issue, as I rejoice in any opportunity to paint you spamming fucks red.

[Argie021213]

I have some points to consider upon reviewing these two concerned accounts.
First: The exchanges of merit obviously shows that these people are related to each other, perhaps friends.
Second: They have different style of post, it's just that since they're friends, they copy each other message to raise concern upon reviewing about their weekly campaign result.
IMO these were not alts of each other but rather friends.

[AmoreJaz]

i try to stay out of these kind of things , But this is just a bit over the top obvious ! looking at their past posting and history = visible similarities that cannot be repeated by mere coincidence.
and i am sure that these are the same person.
this is my humble opinion!

if needed i can set up a way to prove one way or the other on my servers and do a full verification
i can set up a secured chat room and i will block all VPN and TOR networks and will run a script to scan the host and all the connection of the clients at the same time. if in-fact they are completely different they will not have any connecting IP's
but it will be two separate private chats and when i ask the same question to on they both have to answer basically the same . i have done this a few times in the past for proof and have caught each suspect in their tracts as they do not know  how i am tracing them and how deep i can scan for their connections thru their ip addresses or even how i am doing it.
certainly it is not failsafe but it hasnt failed yet!


Amore Jaz

[vinz7229]

I have some points to consider upon reviewing these two concerned accounts.
First: The exchanges of merit obviously shows that these people are related to each other, perhaps friends.
Second: They have different style of post, it's just that since they're friends, they copy each other message to raise concern upon reviewing about their weekly campaign result.
IMO these were not alts of each other but rather friends.

that's true, giving atleast 1-2 merits to a particular person is good but i know it is againts the rule. and as far as i know i only give 2 merits to satry which i think she deserved to have that merit. Satry and I know each other for the reason that she is my officemate  and we decided to create a bitcoin group so that we can help each other if someone needs helps when it comes to bitcoin matter. you can also check our BTC ADDRESS that we usually use in joining signature and bounty campaign. WE  use COINS.PH wallet address in our country which requires a one time application and also requesting for a valid identification information.  you can visit this links for future reference. https://coins.ph/user-agreement/

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I can send some proof that this accounts aren't related to ONE PERSON only.

YES. I can actually prove it.

some of us on our Group would possibly send proofs.

So post this proof you have, or send it to Yahoo62278.

[Satry]

Normally I don't look for the communities opinion on much but in this case I would like to hear some reactions and thoughts. I was in the middle of grading Byteballs twitter campaign when I received these 2 pms within a few minutes of each other. As you can see the messages are pretty damn close to the same.

Should their neg trust stay? Are these pms enough to prove they're the same person? I'll leave this open for discussion for 24 hours

Vinz7229 and Satry is different people but we are in the same group and he is my officemate. I asked him for help on what he did in twitter campaign because we have same remarks and he told me that he message yahoo in personal. If a person has an alt account that was both trying to get paid and message you with same message thats stupid. Thats why I only asked him for help on what he did, and I copied it and send it through pm because were the same issues. I have worked hard to earn this rank and I would not risked my name just to have a negative reputation due to false accusation.

[AmoreJaz]

I can send some proof that this accounts aren't related to ONE PERSON only.

YES. I can actually prove it.

some of us on our Group would possibly send proofs.

So post this proof you have, or send it to Yahoo62278.

IMHO if this is up for  Community Scrutiny ... then it should be public. public for the community to judge
but even if offered only to yahoo im sure he could then make  his thoughts on it also. but remember one small very old saying....
'where there are 2 --there are 3"

Amore Jaz

[vinz7229]

here are some proof of our conversation between SATRY and I, showing that we are not an alt account!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Thats why I only asked him for help on what he did, and I copied it and send it through pm because were the same issues.

But you didn't copy/paste it exactly.  It's a paraphrasing of what vinz7229 wrote, which makes it highly suspicious.

If a person has an alt account that was both trying to get paid and message you with same message thats stupid.

I agree.  That's why it's astounding when people get caught doing this sort of shit--and they're usually shitposting bounty farms or alt accounts, and they usually rationalize, lie, and otherwise shift suspicion about their acts.  That's exactly what this reeks of.  Or as we say in the States:  Your syphillis looks like it's caught gonorrhea.

here are some proof of our conversation between SATRY and I, showing that we are not an alt account!

I can't read any of that, and I don't know what it's supposed to be anyway.  I'll leave it to the gearheads to interpret it and see what they have to say.

DONE.

I question what your interest is in this matter and why you're being so vocal about it.

We cannot judge them, We can consider as coincidence or the one was copied the other post because they have a same issue.

I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to notice that this ^^^ post was deleted seconds after it was posted.  This is something else that's suspicious about what's going on here.

[AmoreJaz]

Thats why I only asked him for help on what he did, and I copied it and send it through pm because were the same issues.

But you didn't copy/paste it exactly.  It's a paraphrasing of what vinz7229 wrote, which makes it highly suspicious.

If a person has an alt account that was both trying to get paid and message you with same message thats stupid.

I agree.  That's why it's astounding when people get caught doing this sort of shit--and they're usually shitposting bounty farms or alt accounts, and they usually rationalize, lie, and otherwise shift suspicion about their acts.  That's exactly what this reeks of.  Or as we say in the States:  Your syphillis looks like it's caught gonorrhea.

here are some proof of our conversation between SATRY and I, showing that we are not an alt account!

I can't read any of that, and I don't know what it's supposed to be anyway.  I'll leave it to the gearheads to interpret it and see what they have to say.

DONE.

I question what your interest is in this matter and why you're being so vocal about it.

We cannot judge them, We can consider as coincidence or the one was copied the other post because they have a same issue.

I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to notice that this ^^^ post was deleted seconds after it was posted.  This is something else that's suspicious about what's going on here.

i can confirm that it was posted and only a few moments it was removed
BUT , that was NOT the only one posted and removed very quickly

[cryptoatomic]

Yahoo > the pharmacist

very considerate,unlike this idiot self centered pussy pharmacist ~ there are only two types of DT members here in this forum.The one who thinks a lot before acting stupid these are the people who deserve their positions,second privilege abusers who wont give a shit to anyone but himself

two different people.

[suchmoon]

here are some proof of our conversation between SATRY and I, showing that we are not an alt account!

I can't read any of that, and I don't know what it's supposed to be anyway.  I'll leave it to the gearheads to interpret it and see what they have to say.

Looks like a screenshot of some chat that has two users named "satry" and "vinz7229". I don't know if that proves anything. It doesn't show that one of them sent the text of the yahoo PM to the other and these screenshots can't be independently verified.

[2girls]

I question what your interest is in this matter and why you're being so vocal about it.

Nothing. Sorry I'm still working on some edits on the replies and it happened that I didn't change it back to normal I apologize for that.

AND FOR:

We cannot judge them, We can consider as coincidence or the one was copied the other post because they have a same issue.

I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to notice that this ^^^ post was deleted seconds after it was posted.  This is something else that's suspicious about what's going on here.

I didn't see that here, and we don't know that account. I think it's just a shitposter don't mind it.

The two infected accounts then this "cabalism13" supporting more than usual and "queennathalia " writing and deleting posts. This seems to be another bitcoin office where people are hired to write posts and participate in bounty's.  Some of you may remember such a office was negative tagged a few months before. This might be another similar case