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August 03, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
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"Got paid" from Deepbit this morning (10:00am EDT) and my bitcoin client is showing the transaction as still 0/unconfirmed.  It's now 2pm EDT.  I've never seen this before.  Similarly, nothing showing in block explorer.

My client has 24 connections and is currently on block 139476.

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August 03, 2011, 06:23:07 PM
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chill and wait. it is going though, some time in the future. 

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August 03, 2011, 07:00:22 PM
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chill and wait. it is going though, some time in the future. 

Really?  I've NEVER seen it take this long.  I'm up to 5 hours now and still 0/unconfirmed.

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August 03, 2011, 07:03:18 PM
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chill and wait. it is going though, some time in the future. 

Really?  I've NEVER seen it take this long.  I'm up to 5 hours now and still 0/unconfirmed.
really.

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August 03, 2011, 07:04:41 PM
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There are 558 unconfirmed transactions (185936 bytes):

There are 484 low priority transactions.

-- You're somewhere in there...

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August 03, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
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Did you try to restart the bitcoin client?
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August 03, 2011, 07:12:33 PM
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Did you try to restart the bitcoin client?

That won't help until the TX is 'posted' into a block, which hasn't happened yet.

It seems that most pools solving blocks basically ignore most low-priority TX's (i.e. no-fee transactions) at this point.  Which is why there's so many unconfirmed transactions lately.

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August 03, 2011, 07:17:02 PM
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That won't help until the TX is 'posted' into a block, which hasn't happened yet.

It seems that most pools solving blocks basically ignore most low-priority TX's (i.e. no-fee transactions) at this point.  Which is why there's so many unconfirmed transactions lately.

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Yes, whenever I suspect something is fishy I restart, rescan if it seems necessary, then even force various -addnodes to finally see if I can get confirmations and blocks to update in a more "rational" manner.  None of this had any effect today, hence I hit the boards here.

is there a way to have Deepbit pay 0.01 BTC transaction fee when auto-payment triggers?  I'm fine paying that especially if it helps alleviate this horrible lag spike in my daily quota / payment.  My little payment is now stuck way down the low priority queue.  ;-(

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August 03, 2011, 08:02:12 PM
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That won't help until the TX is 'posted' into a block, which hasn't happened yet.

It seems that most pools solving blocks basically ignore most low-priority TX's (i.e. no-fee transactions) at this point.  Which is why there's so many unconfirmed transactions lately.

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Yes, whenever I suspect something is fishy I restart, rescan if it seems necessary, then even force various -addnodes to finally see if I can get confirmations and blocks to update in a more "rational" manner.  None of this had any effect today, hence I hit the boards here.

is there a way to have Deepbit pay 0.01 BTC transaction fee when auto-payment triggers?  I'm fine paying that especially if it helps alleviate this horrible lag spike in my daily quota / payment.  My little payment is now stuck way down the low priority queue.  ;-(
the low priority queue will be gone tomorrow. Smiley just chill and wait

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August 03, 2011, 08:05:20 PM
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A payment FROM Deepbit is unconfirmed?
As they put payments in the blocks they find, it's kinda weird...

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August 03, 2011, 08:21:49 PM
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A payment FROM Deepbit is unconfirmed?
As they put payments in the blocks they find, it's kinda weird...

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

On the other hand, nobody mining new bitcoins necessarily needs to accept the transactions and include them in the new block being created. The transaction fee is therefore an incentive on the part of the bitcoin user to make sure that a particular transaction will get included into the next block which is generated.

Basically, it's up to the people/pools in determining which TX's are accepted and put into the new blocks as they are found.  As you've noticed, those people/pools have been ignoring the low-priority/no-fee ones lately.

http://blockexplorer.com/

Check the 'Transactions' column.

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August 03, 2011, 08:26:33 PM
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A payment FROM Deepbit is unconfirmed?
As they put payments in the blocks they find, it's kinda weird...

Yup, and still unconfirmed.  Going on 6 1/2 hours now.  Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow (as per post above).

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August 03, 2011, 09:27:15 PM
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A payment FROM Deepbit is unconfirmed?
As they put payments in the blocks they find, it's kinda weird...

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

On the other hand, nobody mining new bitcoins necessarily needs to accept the transactions and include them in the new block being created. The transaction fee is therefore an incentive on the part of the bitcoin user to make sure that a particular transaction will get included into the next block which is generated.

Basically, it's up to the people/pools in determining which TX's are accepted and put into the new blocks as they are found.  As you've noticed, those people/pools have been ignoring the low-priority/no-fee ones lately.

http://blockexplorer.com/

Check the 'Transactions' column.

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Deepbit is a pool. Is it really smart to refuse its own tx's?

A payment FROM Deepbit is unconfirmed?
As they put payments in the blocks they find, it's kinda weird...

Yup, and still unconfirmed.  Going on 6 1/2 hours now.  Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow (as per post above).
Did you check your transaction in blockexplorer? The link is the date column in the Deepbit payments page
You have all the 139497 blocks? If so, you should contact them

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August 03, 2011, 09:43:08 PM
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Did you check your transaction in blockexplorer? The link is the date column in the Deepbit payments page
You have all the 139497 blocks? If so, you should contact them

I'm not seeing anything sent in blockexplorer to my address.  On bitcoincharts I was able to see it a while back under "low priority" the site is down for maintenance apparently atm.

I've sent Tycho a PM about another issue (on the db forum sticky) I guess I should add this too.

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August 03, 2011, 10:02:32 PM
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Deepbit is a pool. Is it really smart to refuse its own tx's?

You're assuming DB uses the same bitcoind as the bitcoind that [Tycho] issues payments.  I highly doubt they are the same and if it is, that's a huge security risk as far as setting up pools and issuing payments to pool members.  [Tycho] has already confirmed that he only keeps a 'minimal' amount of BTC's on-hand for payments so I'm sure he's running at least a few different wallets/bitcoind's.

Did you check your transaction in blockexplorer? The link is the date column in the Deepbit payments page
You have all the 139497 blocks? If so, you should contact them

For the OP, it won't show up in Blockexplorer yet.  OP verified it's still an unconfirmed transaction (TX) via http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/ (which is down right now).  He has all the blocks on his client I believe.

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August 03, 2011, 10:27:18 PM
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You're assuming DB uses the same bitcoind as the bitcoind that [Tycho] issues payments.  I highly doubt they are the same and if it is, that's a huge security risk as far as setting up pools and issuing payments to pool members.  [Tycho] has already confirmed that he only keeps a 'minimal' amount of BTC's on-hand for payments so I'm sure he's running at least a few different wallets/bitcoind's.
I never thought about it that way
But it's still strange, he could use a modified bitcoind that accepts all tx's from his node processing payments
There's a reason he doesn't do that, I must forget something

For the OP, it won't show up in Blockexplorer yet.  OP verified it's still an unconfirmed transaction (TX) via http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/ (which is down right now).  He has all the blocks on his client I believe.
Sorry I didn't read post#8 carefully

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August 04, 2011, 04:01:52 AM
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I have 2 transactions stuck in 0/unconfirmed.

1 receiving, and 1 sending.  I see both of them in "Low Priority" at bitcoincharts.

I've never had this happen before, not for several hours like this.  Did all the pools, just today, stop accepting TX's with no fee?

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August 04, 2011, 04:04:23 AM
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OK, 5 seconds after I post this, I get 1 confirm on each.


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August 04, 2011, 04:06:25 AM
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OK, 5 seconds after I post this, I get 1 confirm on each.


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Not me, still unconfirmed, and my client is fully updated to (currently block 139537 now).  Here's the transaction, btw:

http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/#4af75cff1604f0de8abf07c2ab90be0f64403a2801e59778fd53006b297404a9

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August 04, 2011, 06:14:16 AM
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i happen to have the same problem with a deepbit transfer with now more than 12 hours.
i'm on block #139544 .


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