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November 22, 2013, 03:30:11 AM
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No settlement received nor proposed

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November 22, 2013, 03:37:06 AM
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Still in

16.68791006 BTC
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November 22, 2013, 03:45:25 AM
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Anyone that was affected by CoinLenders, and illegal unregulated investment bank, whether you are from US or not, I highly recommend you follow this guy's advice.

More then a few victims of TradeFortress's fraud have contacted me privately about how to pursue them.  I'll just post my advice here publically.

The Securities and Exchange Commission has filed a civil suit against Trendon Shavers for a similar issue so they are certainly interested in the subject.  Trendon Shavers is a US citizen.  I don't know TF or where he lives bu if he defrauded US citizens the US can go after him.

The best advice I can give you is call or email this guy from the SEC and give him all the details.  If he can't help you maybe he can tell you who can.  And the more of you that file a complaint and the more total money lost the more likely they will pursue it.

Good luck.

Philip Moustakis
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Division of Enforcement
United States Securities & Exchange Commission
3 World Financial Center, Suite 400,
New York, NY 10281-1022
(212) 336-0542
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November 22, 2013, 03:52:31 AM
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Coinlenders Balance
  amount (from screenshot) prior to 2013-11-10:
     7.53164008
  amount since 2013-11-10 (early CD terminations modified the total):
     7.34384702

I have not settled.  Coincidentally, I have also not received any "settlement offers."  The two may be related, I'll have to check. Smiley

Emailed him 3 times, perhaps 4, over the last several weeks.  Offered to take a haircut, offered to negotiate with him regarding percentages, offered to work with him in any reasonable way so long as he responded to me or otherwise indicated he wasn't intentionally ignoring me.  No replies, no counteroffers, no settlements, no happy. Sad
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November 22, 2013, 05:40:22 AM
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Still in! No intention to settle:

Coinlenders balance (with interest): 29 btc
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November 22, 2013, 05:42:07 AM
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Still in. 1.50021415 @ Coinlenders.


I received this settlement, but have not taken it:

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Generated for email XXXXXXXXXXXXX with current balance 1.50021415
Deposit   Time   ~BTCUSD   USD amount
1.50002955 BTC   2013-10-21 00:45:09   $194.47   $291.71
1.50000000 BTC   2013-10-21 10:47:24   $196.90   $295.35
Total Deposits in USD: $587.06
Withdrawal   Time   ~BTCUSD   USD amount
1.50000000 BTC   2013-10-21 13:55:06   $197.65   -$296.48
Total Withdrawals in USD: $296.48
Balance remaining in USD: $290.59

If you accept, please respond with "I accept $290.59 USD as full settlement of my CoinLenders balance, with payment made via BTC to the address [your BTC address] using the latest MtGox ask at the time the payment is sent, or $750 USD, whichever is greater. When the payment is made to my specified Bitcoin address, I release and waive any claims with regard to, and hold CoinLenders harmless from and against any and all claims of any kind that are or could be asserted with my use of the service."

Cant believe you we're offered more for a 1.5BTC balance than I was offered for my 5.06 BTC. Completely insulting and nonsensical.

this is scousesmoker Smiley
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November 22, 2013, 05:50:05 AM
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I sent mass mail to him. No reply. Everyone can get an offer but me.

I am desperate.
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November 22, 2013, 06:21:27 AM
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I'm still in with my first BTCINVEST liquidation of 43.51560284 BTC.

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November 22, 2013, 06:39:48 AM
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I sent mass mail to him. No reply. Everyone can get an offer but me.

I am desperate.

I've emailed TF several times too.
no reply.

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November 22, 2013, 08:05:54 AM
Last edit: November 22, 2013, 08:24:18 AM by Efflorescence
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For the record, I've 494.83919957 BTC in Coinlenders and about 75 BTC in BTCInvest. They're pretty much all of my education fund there after I voluntarily dropped out of education system.
I have not settled.

In fact, I've talked to a friend at Digital Asset Transfer Authority (DATA).
http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/founding-members/

What irks me most is that:
1. This $1 million loss may not even be genuine.
2. TF may have also been gambling after the hack: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329136.msg3569337#msg3569337

Wait... WAIT... this guy has been gambling AFTER the hack?!?

He actually was gambling after the hack:
https://blockchain.info/address/13VXUBDBd6Jwsz7euG59BmanHEMA5EkcA1?sort=0

Notice the LuckyBit bets and the dice bet.

So, it is an important precedent for accountability, for Bitcoin/crypto's sustainability, for those who've been harmed or who will be, and for the future.  
My friend from the network also sees this is an important case in point / important precedent to set.

But we will not achieve anything if we continue "running/clucking around like amateur headless chickens" (paraphrased from conversation).

There are resources, professionals, connections, authorities, and possibilities to pursue this that I can help to connect.

[The only thing holding me back is that I've to be on-the-go/at countries probably without internet of late; so practically, I can't oversee this.]

I know some of you are thinking of pursuing individual legal actions, but really, we could be more effective with a concerted group/class actions. There are also grounds for authorities to look into this. "Every contact leaves a trace."

I've not concluded that this is a crime yet. Of course, I'd like a full settlement. But a comprehensive & honest disclosure from TF will earn compassion.  

Moving forward:

A) Who is interested to pursue something collectively (regardless of whether you've settled or not)?
1. @gaston909 -
2. @DumbFruit -
3. @cobordism (reddit)
4. @thecoinjournal -
5. @chaosfox -

6. @Efflorescence - Yes

7. (Reply with your name below/there's so many people who've voiced concern - chat with them to ask if they'd like to join the force)

B) Crowdsourced Fact-Gathering
There are information laying around, for those that you've read of & anything else you could dug up, can you post some pertinent facts (timestamp, messages, IPs, BTCs, etc)

Here's a wiki I created where everyone could edit (but I'm not the best at it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/TradeFortress_(Bitcoin)

C) Who can volunteer to pilot this precedent-setting collective community effort?

D) Community cause donation address
A tentative donation address for this cause: 12EuhPGiDkSSGeyPxdDaT4hJvTStYRicpY
I'll pass on any amount collected to the new community organizer.


I hope you see this cause to be as important as I do in setting a notable precedent to move bitcoins above shameful/shady businesses - towards what we see and envision in Bitcoin.


For our actions echo in 'eternity',
V Smiley
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November 22, 2013, 09:08:01 AM
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I am up to here... just need to establish if Efflorescence was listed on dumbfruits old thread.

For the record, I've 494.83919957 BTC in Coinlenders and about 75 BTC in BTCInvest. They're pretty much all of my education fund there after I voluntarily dropped out of education system.
I have not settled.

In fact, I've talked to a friend at Digital Asset Transfer Authority (DATA).
http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/founding-members/

What irks me most is that:
1. This $1 million loss may not even be genuine.
2. TF may have also been gambling after the hack: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329136.msg3569337#msg3569337

Wait... WAIT... this guy has been gambling AFTER the hack?!?

He actually was gambling after the hack:
https://blockchain.info/address/13VXUBDBd6Jwsz7euG59BmanHEMA5EkcA1?sort=0

Notice the LuckyBit bets and the dice bet.

So, it is an important precedent for accountability, for Bitcoin/crypto's sustainability, for those who've been harmed or who will be, and for the future.  
My friend from the network also sees this is an important case in point / important precedent to set.

But we will not achieve anything if we continue "running/clucking around like amateur headless chickens" (paraphrased from conversation).

There are resources, professionals, connections, authorities, and possibilities to pursue this that I can help to connect.

[The only thing holding me back is that I've to be on-the-go/at countries probably without internet of late; so practically, I can't oversee this.]

I know some of you are thinking of pursuing individual legal actions, but really, we could be more effective with a concerted group/class actions. There are also grounds for authorities to look into this. "Every contact leaves a trace."

I've not concluded that this is a crime yet. Of course, I'd like a full settlement. But a comprehensive & honest disclosure from TF will earn compassion.  

Moving forward:

A) Who is interested to pursue something collectively (regardless of whether you've settled or not)?
1. @gaston909 -
2. @DumbFruit -
3. @cobordism (reddit)
4. @thecoinjournal -
5. @chaosfox -

6. @Efflorescence - Yes

7. (Reply with your name below/there's so many people who've voiced concern - chat with them to ask if they'd like to join the force)

B) Crowdsourced Fact-Gathering
There are information laying around, for those that you've read of & anything else you could dug up, can you post some pertinent facts (timestamp, messages, IPs, BTCs, etc)

Here's a wiki I created where everyone could edit (but I'm not the best at it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/TradeFortress_(Bitcoin)

C) Who can volunteer to pilot this precedent-setting collective community effort?

D) Community cause donation address
A tentative donation address for this cause: 12EuhPGiDkSSGeyPxdDaT4hJvTStYRicpY
I'll pass on any amount collected to the new community organizer.


I hope you see this cause to be as important as I do in setting a notable precedent to move bitcoins above shameful/shady businesses - towards what we see and envision in Bitcoin.


For our actions echo in 'eternity',
V Smiley
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November 22, 2013, 09:30:47 AM
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For the record, I've 494.83919957 BTC in Coinlenders and about 75 BTC in BTCInvest. They're pretty much all of my education fund there after I voluntarily dropped out of education system.
I have not settled.

In fact, I've talked to a friend at Digital Asset Transfer Authority (DATA).
http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/founding-members/

What irks me most is that:
1. This $1 million loss may not even be genuine.
2. TF may have also been gambling after the hack: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329136.msg3569337#msg3569337

Maybe this is not a scam: just a big "just-dice" loss.

It's near an evidence that money deposited in CL was used to gamble, not to lending.

Leave the force be with you...
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November 22, 2013, 09:31:48 AM
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still in with 2.08111701 BTC including interest (original investment was 2 BTC) at coinlenders.
I really don't want to agree to those offered, in my opinion inacceptable refund rates.
I appreciate any assistance or suggestions in getting at least some of my hard earned BTC back.
Thank you for putting this updated list together!
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November 22, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
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To:
1. @gaston909 -
2. @DumbFruit -
3. @cobordism (reddit)
4. @thecoinjournal -
5. @chaosfox -
6. @Efflorescence

Please add my name to the list.  I'm a tech n00b, but I can write emails, or make a donation.
I can visit Washington.
I have PM'd a few of you with my email.  I would prefer to work on details via email.
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November 22, 2013, 01:34:25 PM
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10.15BTC@Coinlenders
I sent TF several emails and ask for settlement option, but he didn't reply me.
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November 22, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
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You listed 15.15 on the old thread. Please can you confirm.
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November 22, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
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My current CL balance is 10.24722147

I have received a settlement offer and made slight modifications to it but have not received a reply yet.
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November 22, 2013, 02:45:04 PM
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Thank you for all your replies & PMs Smiley looks like we might have a team here.
If you're not added to an email thread yet, kindly pm gaston909.

For accuracy, my amount's 494.83919957 BTC in Coinlenders (2 accounts) & 77.5 BTC for 250 shares of BTCInvest.
This hasn't been added to DumbFruit or any threads. Wanted to give sufficient time to TF Smiley

1. @gaston909
2. @DumbFruit - tbc
3. @cobordism (reddit) - tbc
4. @thecoinjournal - tbc
5. @chaosfox - tbc
6. @Efflorescence
7. @TomJeff
8. @xorglub
9. @tehelsper
10. @shangata - tbc
11.

Related threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341492.0 (@posormo here raised an idea that creditors & especially debtors of Coinlenders should transfer what they owe to an escrow in the mean time)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328053.0;all
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283756.900
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336217.new
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248803.1240
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329136.msg3569337#msg3569337
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November 22, 2013, 03:55:04 PM
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In fact, I've talked to a friend at Digital Asset Transfer Authority (DATA).
http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/founding-members/

Same here, I have a friend at DATA too.
They are trying to find out who TF is.

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November 22, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
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I am up to here.

Sorry, what does this statement mean exactly?

That he has incorporated data up until this point in his spreadsheet/first post.

Where is the spreadsheet?
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