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November 22, 2013, 05:03:37 PM
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Was saving myself repeated pasting/updating by waiting.

I just added the user balances.

I haven't added you yet since our exchange about your settlement/deposit Smiley

Will get around to it!

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November 22, 2013, 05:09:36 PM
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Was saving myself repeated pasting/updating by waiting.

I just added the user balances.

I haven't added you yet since our exchange about your settlement/deposit Smiley

Will get around to it!



I did not settle with TF. He sent a ~10% refund and then asked me to agree to settle. Oops.
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November 22, 2013, 05:29:58 PM
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EDIT:

I would advice not to settle. At least 1300 were written off by this "so called settlement", another 900 were donated by TF to cover the loss.
There should be enough btc to get 50%+ of your balance back.

(I will edit this post later for more info)

If you look a bit further into the numbers - JUST based on what has been returned so far. This hack is pretty much bought and paid for. Now we are dealing with CL losses which were smuggled under our noses in light of this hack, which also happened to be during the price rise.

TF only has to come clean about the true extent of the losses and fairly distribute them and he would have a lot fewer legal problems.

No more of this USD rubbish either. We bought BTC and deposited them each BTC is our share in the risk.

Not the date we happened to deposit them and the USD price for that day. This creative accounting is what led him to come up with NEGATIVE balance for some users which is quite ridiculous.
It might benefit a few, but it would be unfair to us all as a whole.

The money "saved" from CL haircuts alone in the past week would pay off more than 10% of remaining depositor balances.(4773.44956105)
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November 22, 2013, 05:41:07 PM
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To:
1. @gaston909 -
2. @DumbFruit -
3. @cobordism (reddit)
4. @thecoinjournal -
5. @chaosfox -
6. @Efflorescence

Please add my name to the list.  I'm a tech n00b, but I can write emails, or make a donation.
I can visit Washington.
I have PM'd a few of you with my email.  I would prefer to work on details via email.
Please add me to this list of those interested in class-action. 
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November 22, 2013, 07:27:37 PM
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I did post in dumbfruit's thread but here it is again. Not settled, owed 86.93779676 including interest.
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November 22, 2013, 07:31:42 PM
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Thank you for all your replies & PMs Smiley looks like we might have a team here.
If you're not added to an email thread yet, kindly pm gaston909.

For accuracy, my amount's 494.83919957 BTC in Coinlenders (2 accounts) & 77.5 BTC for 250 shares of BTCInvest.
This hasn't been added to DumbFruit or any threads. Wanted to give sufficient time to TF Smiley

1. @gaston909
2. @DumbFruit - tbc
3. @cobordism (reddit) - tbc
4. @thecoinjournal - tbc
5. @chaosfox - tbc
6. @Efflorescence
7. @TomJeff
8. @xorglub
9. @tehelsper
10. @shangata - tbc
11.

Related threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341492.0 (@posormo here raised an idea that creditors & especially debtors of Coinlenders should transfer what they owe to an escrow in the mean time)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328053.0;all
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283756.900
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336217.new
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248803.1240
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329136.msg3569337#msg3569337


You can add me to the list aswell, although I'm unsure how I'll be able to help, but I have 75.98128219 with Coinlenders so I'm all for a form of class action!

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November 22, 2013, 08:30:36 PM
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I haven't settled.  Including interest, he owes me 4.9513357 bitcoins.  (The principal is 4.5449 bitcoins.)

I should add that I am getting very tempted to settle, at least if he offers me my full initial investment back, which seems unlikely given what people have been saying.

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November 22, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
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I think we would all settle for our initial investment back. Unfortuantely, he's offering less than 20% as a settlement, which doesn't make sense because he won't show a balance sheet and is making people agree to some legalese before sending them any of THEIR money back. He's obviously scared of the lawsuits and must have some assets to lose or is afraid of a jail sentence.

Notice how he has also quit posting and responding to email... I wonder if he's retained a lawer already.
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November 22, 2013, 09:19:01 PM
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I wonder if he's retained a lawer already.

Or decided to run.

Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked. -Warren Buffett
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November 22, 2013, 09:41:21 PM
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simonsaysmine - 1.07027926BTC including interest

I have not settled or contacted TF to settle.  Entire balance is unpaid.
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November 22, 2013, 10:00:34 PM
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Its probably the longest time period I have seen where he didn't log on to bitcointalk... maybe he did decide to run
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November 22, 2013, 11:06:34 PM
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I think we would all settle for our initial investment back. Unfortuantely, he's offering less than 20% as a settlement, which doesn't make sense because he won't show a balance sheet and is making people agree to some legalese before sending them any of THEIR money back. He's obviously scared of the lawsuits and must have some assets to lose or is afraid of a jail sentence.

Notice how he has also quit posting and responding to email... I wonder if he's retained a lawer already.

Oh, I meant the USD equivalent.  Yes, it sucks, but it's a lot better than getting nothing back at all.  

Right now I figure the options are

1) Settle with TradeFortress for the USD amount of my initial investment.
2) Go with the lawsuit.
3) Hang on with the new ownership, assuming TradeFortress goes along with it, and the shares and hope he's not planning something similar.

Personally, the only way I could see sticking with the new ownership is if Inputs.io is elminated and Coinlenders is taken back to the way it was previously, ie, just doing loans, no online wallets.  I never liked the idea of Inputs.io, but unfortunately I had my money trapped in a CD when the site was taken that direction.  

Only options 2 and 3 provide any chance of recovering the full amount in bitcoins.  I don't really know which one is better, really, but I'm inclined towards thinking option 1 or 2 are likely the best available choices here.

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November 22, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
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Option 2 will happen anyway eventually unless tf makes a deal with everyone. Making option 3 less and less likely.
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November 22, 2013, 11:24:15 PM
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Option 2 will happen anyway eventually unless tf makes a deal with everyone. Making option 3 less and less likely.

Good point.  I think I'll stick around for the lawsuit then.

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November 23, 2013, 03:38:40 AM
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I am owed 9.71717801 including interest.

Have not tried to settle yet.

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November 23, 2013, 03:44:40 AM
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Its probably the longest time period I have seen where he didn't log on to bitcointalk... maybe he did decide to run

I was looking through the May 2013 emails TF sent me.
Wondering if the originating IP is real?... or spoofed.


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November 23, 2013, 04:45:11 AM
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Hi i have a original

Balance of 4 BTC

and a total balance of 4.01865378


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November 23, 2013, 05:10:23 AM
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I was BTCINVEST shareholder 130 shares and waiting for unknown refund on coinlenders  Angry 
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November 23, 2013, 05:25:43 AM
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davecoin:10.0585973 unsettled

Where are people getting settlement offers?
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November 23, 2013, 05:32:32 AM
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davecoin:10.0585973 unsettled

Where are people getting settlement offers?

TF will email you with an offer based in ur investment. It ain't pretty


You need to email him at admin@glados.cc I sent him 3-4 emails before i got a response.

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