Account Got Negative Trust

[shezu007]

Ans: 5:   I have make a newbie account and messaged him they have given me response after long time. I am in search of my that newbie account also but still i have not find.

Try https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm ?

6:   And i have given cash to my friend and he has send BTC to them and his screen shot is here

https://snag.gy/yH68Xd.jpg

That's a terrible way to share a Bitcoin transaction. I don't see a $50 transaction going to 13Vs3Z2hn9UUp7EYkrXXTC2xi1DDjXMzQd on October 2, 2017.

Sir i have shared screen shots. Sir trust me i have paid to my friend in my currency and he has send to that wallet BTC. Sir you can see in screen shot.

[LoyceV]

https://blockchain.info/tx/4dc8f59cfdab631112602cef35bdaa7ac0784f8449a9ff1b9337c920968b7147

This transaction paid 20.75 USD.

They have demand me at that time for paying 50$ for giving account back and i have payed to them.

Which one is it? 20 or 50 dollars? Your story doesn't add up.

Sir you can see the shaded cells 
Total oinput  47$
Total output   43$
Fee                4$

So you're saying the hacker demanded $50 in 2018 prices in 2017?

[shezu007]

https://blockchain.info/tx/4dc8f59cfdab631112602cef35bdaa7ac0784f8449a9ff1b9337c920968b7147

This transaction paid 20.75 USD.

They have demand me at that time for paying 50$ for giving account back and i have payed to them.

Which one is it? 20 or 50 dollars? Your story doesn't add up.

https://snag.gy/pceFMt.jpg
Sir you can see the shaded cells 
Total oinput  47$
Total output   43$
Fee                4$

[DarkStar_alt]

It seems that the supposed hacker would be McKane, if the story checks out, though I think it could be that shezu007 is a bought account, given McKane's history?

http://archive.is/n6UKl#selection-6513.13-6513.47

Also if you PMed the account you're using right now, dig through your old PMs (unless they were deleted)

[shezu007]

It seems that the supposed hacker would be McKane, if the story checks out, though I think it could be that shezu007 is a bought account, given McKane's history?

http://archive.is/n6UKl#selection-6513.13-6513.47

Also if you PMed, the account you're using right now, dig through your old PMs (unless they were deleted)
Sir what you have said in this post i have not understand. Sir i have provide my transaction proof. now kindly remove my negative trust.

[DarkStar_alt]

It seems that the supposed hacker would be McKane, if the story checks out, though I think it could be that shezu007 is a bought account, given McKane's history?

http://archive.is/n6UKl#selection-6513.13-6513.47

Also if you PMed, the account you're using right now, dig through your old PMs (unless they were deleted)

Sir what you have said in this post i have not understand. Sir i have provide my transaction proof. now kindly remove my negative trust.
 

Still not sure enough to remove my negative trust, especially considering the discrepancies with the transaction info.

[shezu007]

It seems that the supposed hacker would be McKane, if the story checks out, though I think it could be that shezu007 is a bought account, given McKane's history?

http://archive.is/n6UKl#selection-6513.13-6513.47

Also if you PMed, the account you're using right now, dig through your old PMs (unless they were deleted)

Sir what you have said in this post i have not understand. Sir i have provide my transaction proof. now kindly remove my negative trust.
 

Still not sure enough to remove my negative trust, especially considering the discrepancies with the transaction info.
Sir if you want see my account history i can give my account password. Sir trust me i am in very tense from tomorrow. I have never think about anything wrong and trust me i have no experience in that activities.

[DarkStar_]

This story doesn't seem to check out. I searched through the seclog archives between June 15 to October 15th, and only found 2 entries:

Code:

August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - shezu007 - password changed
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - shezu007 - password changed

The campaign post was made August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM, which is almost 24 hours before the first password change, when you supposedly got hacked. It appears that you started managing/running the social media campaign for B8Ball on August 12, 2017, 06:00:28 AM, and even worse, you posted the B8Ball ANN on August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM, over a week before you got hacked.

Basic Timeline (from what I grasp)
June 20, 2017, 06:29:11 AM - Your account is created
August 04, 2017, 03:38:25 PM - You announce a signature/logo design service, and claim that the Tiger Beer logo was created by you.[1] In the time span of 3 minutes, 3 accounts vouch for your services from accounts with a username format of <insert name> <insert random numbers>
August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM - You announce B8Ball Pool, a shady ICO
August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM - You launch B8Ball Pool's signature campaign that promises payments of up to 1.1BTC for one month of the campaign
August 14, 2017, 07:39:27 AM - B8Ball Project is up for sale, because no one trusts you  
August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - Password change
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - Password change

It does not look like you got hacked, and if you need, the scam signature campaign was launched prior to getting hacked. Your post history is identical when comparing the posts after and during the period between the 2 password changes.

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Alternative Timeline:

You buy this account on October 2nd from McKane, a known account seller unaware of the history behind your purchased account.
You change the password on October 13 ()

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Either way, I'm not removing my negative trust. My apologies at the delay in response, unfortunately I was not at home earlier. I have updated my negative trust to increase it's accuracy though.

Either:

a) Offered a signature campaign that pays a ridiculously high rate, without any escrow and talks about needing crowdfunding to build their game. No one was paid from the campaign, as far as I know.

b) Bought account.

This user claims their account was hacked when the campaign was launched, however has not provided any form of proof, and their claims are rendered incorrect by the forums seclog; they were lying. Any of those 3 makes that individual untrustworthy in my opinion.

[1] That in itself is shady, in my opinion

[shezu007]

This story doesn't seem to check out. I searched through the seclog archives between June 15 to October 15th, and only found 2 entries:

Code:

August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - shezu007 - password changed
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - shezu007 - password changed

The campaign post was made August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM, which is almost 24 hours before the first password change, when you supposedly got hacked. It appears that you started managing/running the social media campaign for B8Ball on August 12, 2017, 06:00:28 AM, and even worse, you posted the B8Ball ANN on August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM, over a week before you got hacked.

Basic Timeline (from what I grasp)
June 20, 2017, 06:29:11 AM - Your account is created
August 04, 2017, 03:38:25 PM - You announce a signature/logo design service, and claim that the Tiger Beer logo was created by you.[1] In the time span of 3 minutes, 3 accounts vouch for your services from accounts with a username format of <insert name> <insert random numbers>
August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM - You announce B8Ball Pool, a shady ICO
August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM - You launch B8Ball Pool's signature campaign that promises payments of up to 1.1BTC for one month of the campaign
August 14, 2017, 07:39:27 AM - B8Ball Project is up for sale, because no one trusts you  
August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - Password change
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - Password change

It does not look like you got hacked, and if you need, the scam signature campaign was launched prior to getting hacked. Your post history is identical when comparing the posts after and during the period between the 2 password changes.

---

Alternative Timeline:

You buy this account on October 2nd from McKane, a known account seller unaware of the history behind your purchased account.
You change the password on October 13 ()

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Either way, I'm not removing my negative trust. My apologies at the delay in response, unfortunately I was not at home earlier. I have updated my negative trust to increase it's accuracy though.

Either:

a) Offered a signature campaign that pays a ridiculously high rate, without any escrow and talks about needing crowdfunding to build their game. No one was paid from the campaign, as far as I know.

b) Bought account.

This user claims their account was hacked when the campaign was launched, however has not provided any form of proof, and their claims are rendered incorrect by the forums seclog; they were lying. Any of those 3 makes that individual untrustworthy in my opinion.

[1] That in itself is shady, in my opinion

Sir on 28 June 2017 and end at 26 August my exams was started and I left forum for a month and after that I don't know exactly when I tried to join forum. But as I try to login my account unfortunately I have faced that issue.
 

[DarkStar_]

So updated timeline:

June 20, 2017, 06:29:11 AM - Your account is created
June 28, 2017 - You leave the forum to focus on exams
August 04, 2017, 03:38:25 PM - You announce a signature/logo design service, and claim that the Tiger Beer logo was created by you. In the time span of 3 minutes, 3 accounts vouch for your services from accounts with a username format of <insert name> <insert random numbers>
August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM - You announce B8Ball Pool, a shady ICO
August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM - You launch B8Ball Pool's signature campaign that promises payments of up to 1.1BTC for one month of the campaign
August 14, 2017, 07:39:27 AM - B8Ball Project is up for sale, because no one trusts you  
August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - Password change
August 26, 2017 - Exams are over and you come back
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - Password change

I find it hard to believe that a hacker hacks your account, announces a (scam) project, starts talking about it and advertising it, and waits a week until they change the password, when they conveniently cancel the project, and start trying to sell it.
I find it hard to believe that you paid $20 to recover what would have been a Newbie account, if you deleted everything that the hacker did.

Unless someone makes a reasonable argument that leads me to believe that you really are innocent, I'm pretty set that I have proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you were not hacked. Therefore, I'm not removing my negative trust. While you have provided one of what I originally asked for, the txid doesn't match your story or the timeline.


Please stop PMing asking me to remove my feedback, unless
a) You or someone else makes a good argument at why you are innocent
b) You provide proof of your communication with the hacker

[DarkStar_]

Here is more proof that you weren't hacked, and the final nail in the coffin (imo):

On August 4 2017, shawn995 vouches for your thread design service. You call him a friend. This happened 2 days before the ANN of B8Ball, and there are zero password changes between those dates.

On April 16 2018, your friend leaves you a positive trust feedback:


(unfortunately not able to be archived; if someone else could confirm it, that would be great)

I highly doubt the hacker had the same 'friends' as you, and I doubt that they would leave you a trust feedback 4 months later.

[shezu007]

So updated timeline:

June 20, 2017, 06:29:11 AM - Your account is created
June 28, 2017 - You leave the forum to focus on exams
August 04, 2017, 03:38:25 PM - You announce a signature/logo design service, and claim that the Tiger Beer logo was created by you. In the time span of 3 minutes, 3 accounts vouch for your services from accounts with a username format of <insert name> <insert random numbers>
August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM - You announce B8Ball Pool, a shady ICO
August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM - You launch B8Ball Pool's signature campaign that promises payments of up to 1.1BTC for one month of the campaign
August 14, 2017, 07:39:27 AM - B8Ball Project is up for sale, because no one trusts you  
August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - Password change
August 26, 2017 - Exams are over and you come back
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - Password change

I find it hard to believe that a hacker hacks your account, announces a (scam) project, starts talking about it and advertising it, and waits a week until they change the password, when they conveniently cancel the project, and start trying to sell it.
I find it hard to believe that you paid $20 to recover what would have been a Newbie account, if you deleted everything that the hacker did.

Unless someone makes a reasonable argument that leads me to believe that you really are innocent, I'm pretty set that I have proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you were not hacked. Therefore, I'm not removing my negative trust. While you have provided one of what I originally asked for, the txid doesn't match your story or the timeline.


Please stop PMing asking me to remove my feedback, unless
a) You or someone else makes a good argument at why you are innocent
b) You provide proof of your communication with the hacker

Darkstar why you are not understanding my words.? When i got my account from hacker it was blocked for 30 days why you have not mentioned this.? They have done something wrong and forum moderator have already given punishment for that. My account blocked for 30 days it means that was the final chance for me and after that i have worked here with full honesty.
So i am not understanding why you people are destroying such big hard work of people . with time you are creating new problems for me here. Sometime you are asking for paying proof when i provided then you are asking for a chat with hackers etc. How i can keep such a long record if i have no problem faced in one year.
I have PMed you because i have waited for your response full day and you have not leave here comments that was the reason for PMed.
Beside that you can ask from moderator about banning account for 30 days.

[DarkStar_]

I'm trying to understand you and the supposed claim that your account was hacked, but the facts contradict your claims, or render significant doubt into whether you're saying the truth.

Why am I not accepting the txid? It doesn't really prove anything. You originally started that you paid $50, but that was in 2018 conversion rates. I think if we were talking Fiat, you would be remembering the amount you actually paid, since you gave your friend cash. It does not make sense that you changed the password over a week after you paid.

Chat logs would pretty much be the only thing that would convince me otherwise at this point, I think. Unless you delete your PMs, it shouldn't be too difficult unless you messaged them outside of the forum.

I fail to see how a 30 day ban is related to this.

[shezu007]

I'm trying to understand you and the supposed claim that your account was hacked, but the facts contradict your claims, or render significant doubt into whether you're saying the truth.

Why am I not accepting the txid? It doesn't really prove anything. You originally started that you paid $50, but that was in 2018 conversion rates. I think if we were talking Fiat, you would be remembering the amount you actually paid, since you gave your friend cash. It does not make sense that you changed the password over a week after you paid.

Chat logs would pretty much be the only thing that would convince me otherwise at this point, I think. Unless you delete your PMs, it shouldn't be too difficult unless you messaged them outside of the forum.

I fail to see how a 30 day ban is related to this.

Darkstar i have already mentioned previously that i have paid through my friend. I have paid him cash because at that time i have no BTC while i have paid to hacker because that amount was not big amount and i have take that risk and when hacker has given me account back and i was logged in to my account then account was blocked for 30 days. At that time i have changed my password and when my account complete its punishment then i have start working with forum with big care because i was sure that account was on the last chance.
Beside that i have contacted to hackers through Skype i-e Andrei Coingimp.
He was added with me and given me a link that click on the link we have a great project and you can get new updates about bitcoin.

[eddie13]

I recently helped prove someone's innocence

Up until this point in this thread I was still on the fence about this guy, though I do trust DarkStars feedback..
I saw your username and felt good that someone was here to help make this guys case. You are like a court appointed attorney, for free..

I was thinking you should offer your forum related representation services but real lawyers will represent clients that they know damn well are guilty so maybe not..

6:   And i have given cash to my friend and he has send BTC to them and his screen shot is here

https://snag.gy/yH68Xd.jpg

Pretty much know the dude is guilty here with the excuse to not control the keys or account behind the tx PLUS making it as difficult as possible for you to verify the "proof" he has given by using a screenshot..


@DarkStar
I noticed the other day that you popped onto my DT view and I want to say congratulations! Now you have to deal with this kind of drama crap for the remainder of your DTship, aren't you lucky.. I wonder how many of these old negs will pop out of the woodwork to appeal..

[LoyceV]

On April 16 2018, your friend leaves you a positive trust feedback:


(unfortunately not able to be archived; if someone else could confirm it, that would be great)

I can confirm this for reference.

I was thinking you should offer your forum related representation services but real lawyers will represent clients that they know damn well are guilty so maybe not..

Lol no thanks I just jump in when I think some red trust is undeserved, but I see no reason to help someone get rid of legit red trust. Besides, if I would do that, my word doesn't mean anything anymore when someone is innocent.

[HCP]

Was re-reading some of the posts in this thread... and spotted this:

Pharmacist Sir my account was not directly active in that month i was in touch with that account from start. And i have paid for my account as i know that in forum only one account is allowed to used.  

Well OP, apparently, you DON'T "know"... Users ARE allowed multiple accounts! Look at Darkstar... he has "Darkstar_" and "Darkstar_alt". What users are NOT allowed to do is use their Alts to try and cheat/scam by creating false trust, enrolling multiple Alts in campaigns, merit farm, trust farm etc...

Why on earth would someone pay $50 for such a low level account that could just be abandoned without any real sacrifice... and a new account started without any issue?

You should have simply created a new account, tagged the old one as "hacked" and provided a signed message from a staked address to backup your claim that you were the original owner and that it got hacked. Then, none of this would have been an issue.

Now, it just looks like you're trying to save your account so you don't get kicked from sig campaigns and can continue to shitpost for pennies...

[shezu007]

Was re-reading some of the posts in this thread... and spotted this:

Pharmacist Sir my account was not directly active in that month i was in touch with that account from start. And i have paid for my account as i know that in forum only one account is allowed to used.  

Well OP, apparently, you DON'T "know"... Users ARE allowed multiple accounts! Look at Darkstar... he has "Darkstar_" and "Darkstar_alt". What users are NOT allowed to do is use their Alts to try and cheat/scam by creating false trust, enrolling multiple Alts in campaigns, merit farm, trust farm etc...

Why on earth would someone pay $50 for such a low level account that could just be abandoned without any real sacrifice... and a new account started without any issue?

You should have simply created a new account, tagged the old one as "hacked" and provided a signed message from a staked address to backup your claim that you were the original owner and that it got hacked. Then, none of this would have been an issue.

Now, it just looks like you're trying to save your account so you don't get kicked from sig campaigns and can continue to shitpost for pennies...
I don't want to give you any ans as your words are showing your personality, level and behavior. I think your parents have not given any knowledge about how to behave with people.
Is any real human being can used these type of words for another human being.?
(Now, it just looks like you're trying to save your account so you don't get kicked from sig campaigns and can continue to shitpost for pennies... )

[shezu007]

I'm trying to understand you and the supposed claim that your account was hacked, but the facts contradict your claims, or render significant doubt into whether you're saying the truth.

Why am I not accepting the txid? It doesn't really prove anything. You originally started that you paid $50, but that was in 2018 conversion rates. I think if we were talking Fiat, you would be remembering the amount you actually paid, since you gave your friend cash. It does not make sense that you changed the password over a week after you paid.

Chat logs would pretty much be the only thing that would convince me otherwise at this point, I think. Unless you delete your PMs, it shouldn't be too difficult unless you messaged them outside of the forum.

Here is chat logs
https://snag.gy/hev9lN.jpg
https://snag.gy/oSwpLN.jpg
https://snag.gy/N0I4vS.jpg
https://snag.gy/xG1JU4.jpg
https://snag.gy/RHQKTb.jpg


I fail to see how a 30 day ban is related to this.
I also fail to see how my account was blocked.? But when they given me account back account was blocked and surely that was the reason that they have done something wrong from here due to which moderator have given a last warning but not block or given negative trust forever.

[stompix]

This is too much to be just a coincidence

It seems that the supposed hacker would be McKane, if the story checks out, though I think it could be that shezu007 is a bought account, given McKane's history?
http://archive.is/n6UKl#selection-6513.13-6513.47

Here is more proof that you weren't hacked, and the final nail in the coffin (imo):

On August 4 2017, shawn995 vouches for your thread design service. You call him a friend. This happened 2 days before the ANN of B8Ball, and there are zero password changes between those dates.

So we have McKane "the hacker", shawn995 "the friend", but the first guy that vouches for in that thread is Pakar11220

And how can we bring those account together....simple !!!