Do you think it is fair to save merits for high-quality, low-ranked members?

[celtic99]

Personally I would rather hand out merit to the newbies-member accounts.  Giving merit to legendary is just like handing money to billionaires.  They don't need it and other people  would appreciate it more.

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[Don Pedro Dinero]

It's not fair. Higher-ranked users still need sMerits to reward other users. You should merit posts that deserve it, regardless of rank.

Lower ranked members also need sMerits to reward other users and, most, if not all, merits sources are higher ranked members.

I’m only giving merits to posts that deserve them, so, in my opinion, your objections don’t hold.

I think the sole criterion should be the benefit the post brings to the forum and its members.

I’m only giving merits to posts that benefit the forum, so, your objection doesn’t hold.

As you can see, I have awarded merits to two legendaries in this thread.

Yeah! I’m not surprised that those complaining about what I say are higher ranked members and those who agree are lower ranked ones, lol!

[Kim Ji Won]

I would do that if I had unlimited smerits and, in fact, that was what I was doing before.

The problem with that is that I find interesting posts soon, and I run out. So, when I find more interesting posts, I don’t have merits to send. With limited smerits, I consider awarding posts written by a Legendary member a waste. With Hero members is not so much of a waste, but they get them easily.

One problem could arise with that kind of mindset. You will surely find an interesting post from a lower rank member but because you are running out of smerit, you will probably think that you will encounter an even more interesting post from other members and you will end up hoarding your sMerits although not intentionally.

I reviewed the sMerits I sent to members and found out that most them went to higher ranking members tho I merited one jr.member whose posts really piqued my interest. My point is, I will still merit posts regardless of ranks.

[paxmao]

I am in favour to consider positively good questions from newbies to Juniors for their first merits to motivate them staying in the forum. After that, I have no conscious bias regarding the rank.

[dogtana]

Well, I think you seem like a really nice person.

[Vannie12]

Well I agree that merits are not for charitable reasons but for the sake of keeping this forum healthy with good quality posts. That would only be possible if we will not let alts and abusers spam and shitpost.

Giving sMerits is not based on their ranks but their posts.
If you think low-ranked accounts give a valuable point and idea then good for them.
I know that observing for quality is a bit crucial because of high standards of some merit sources but that is why we, average-ranked users are here to give good judgement too. We have an opportunity to do that.


Saving is not really necessary but let your sMerits count for a greater purpose.

If you will give you sMerits to a spammer and alts, then it is useless because your sMerits will not produce a quality member.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I don’t  get enough smerits to spend as often as I would like to. This has made me decide that I am only going to give merits to lower ranked members; I won’t give any for Legendary members and maybe not to Hero members either.

I think it is better due to scarcity to save them for people who have a long way to rank up rather than for those who are at the top already and get merits easily.

What do you think about? Do you do the same? Do you think it is fair?

You made a nice point, also put into consideration to merit only lower rank members that contributes positively to the community, that why we will avoid spamming post and the rest.

The merit system was introduced to take care of spamming post as users look for it to be ranked up while doing so they post only relevant post in order to be merited . Also kindly not, if a legendary member post something meaningful also consider meriting the post that way we share the merit round and make bitcointalk better and fair

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Note: I've edited the title and the OP to make my case even clearer. I thought it was petty clear but after seeing some replies I wanted to emphasize: I'm only talking about giving merits to high-quality posts.

[Tarek4080]

I think, you may skip legendary members regardless of their posts... They are already established and everyone knows what it mean...

Instead I believe,, Newbies to Hero must enjoy this merit system based on their posts... They have yet chance to improve themselves with due evaluation & rewards..

(Note: Extremely high level & beneficial post must be awarded no matter what rank the poster has)

[Trofo]

When the merit was introduced I had a policy of simply awarding best posts or posts that are helpful to me personally. Since than I have somewhat amended in a way that I favor lower ranks and local forum where I am most active. It was necessary because I simply don't have enough merit to award all the post I deem worthy.

I try to always keep few merits in hand to award great posts which are beneficial to me personally and probably useful to community as whole.

[thorexs]

hii all, i think its fair enaught that you give merit for those who had constructive post in BCT. but not easy for people like us who hard to says in english and  create constructive post.because english languange is not our daily languange. most uf us join this community becouse of altcoins and while we in it, will learning this language and try to undestand it. sorry if my english not good enaught..thanks.

[Jet Cash]

I got you, but in my own opinion there is a difference between equality and justice.
So, if you treat others equally you mean that regardless of the rank you will give merit to those who have quality post.
But if you choose justice you will give merit to those in need of merit but also deserving to have merit and who posts quality posts.
In other words prioritize lower rank users who are also deserving to have merit.

So if I buy a chair that has been made by an apprentice carpenter, and it collapses when I sit on it, should I pay the same price as a chair from a master carpenter that will last for 200 years?

[DefDope66]

Whatever bitcointalk is trying to achieve with merit-based ranking is failing.

1. The number of posts drops off over time. After submitting roughly 50 posts, bitcointalk is counting 32 of them. I do not make spammy or irrelevant posts and they are not off-topic. So I spend time contributing more posts which leads to more time on site with 0 merit, which on the surface will make it look like a spammer account.

2. Bitcointalk is not giving members enough merit to give to others (see the rest of the thread on this topic.)

3. Bitcointalk doesn't seem to care and hasn't done anything to address the issue.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think the sole criterion should be the benefit the post brings to the forum and its members. As you can see, I have awarded merits to two legendaries in this thread.

You are very generous and I do see your point.  However, I see merits as a valuable and scarce commodity and if all else is equal (which it usually isn't), I'd give my smerits to lower-ranked members over Legendaries.  Hero members still need them, but Legendaries can't rank up any more than they have.  The problem has always been finding those low-ranked members who make decent posts.  Often I find myself doing what you and Vod do, which is giving out merits without regard to rank or need.  It so happens that I find posts made by older members a lot more interesting.

Foxpup, for some reason, has given me quite a bit of merit and though I don't "need" it, it is always nice to have some smerit to give out. 

Anyway, since smerits are very limited--especially if you're in the lower ranks--it's understandabe that you'd want to be selective about who you give it out to.  I think that's perfectly acceptable.

[joebrook]

Whatever bitcointalk is trying to achieve with merit-based ranking is failing.

1. The number of posts drops off over time. After submitting roughly 50 posts, bitcointalk is counting 32 of them. I do not make spammy or irrelevant posts and they are not off-topic. So I spend time contributing more posts which leads to more time on site with 0 merit, which on the surface will make it look like a spammer account.

2. Bitcointalk is not giving members enough merit to give to others (see the rest of the thread on this topic.)

3. Bitcointalk doesn't seem to care and hasn't done anything to address the issue.

It’s not really you, now the moderators here are really working hard and they mostly deleting most threads on this forum and because of that our posts just keep on dwindling from the forum. But I can testify that due to the merit system, not a lot of posts are being made and am talking about spamy posts.

[Foxpup]

1. The number of posts drops off over time. After submitting roughly 50 posts, bitcointalk is counting 32 of them. I do not make spammy or irrelevant posts and they are not off-topic.

Posts do not "drop off over time". Your posts were deleted for being spammy, irrelevant, or off-topic, and you are likely to be banned if you continue making such posts.

So I spend time contributing more posts which leads to more time on site with 0 merit, which on the surface will make it look like a spammer account.

That none of your 50 32 posts were merited is a further clue that your posts are not contributing to the forum.

2. Bitcointalk is not giving members enough merit to give to others (see the rest of the thread on this topic.)

17800 merits every 30 days ought to be plenty.

3. Bitcointalk doesn't seem to care and hasn't done anything to address the issue.

If the issue is that shitposters keep complaining that they can't get merit, then yes, it indeed seems that not enough is being done about it.

Foxpup, for some reason, has given me quite a bit of merit and though I don't "need" it, it is always nice to have some smerit to give out. 

My reason is simple enough. Take my generosity and pay it forward.

[paxmao]

Well, I think you seem like a really nice person.

Believe me, I am not.

[paxmao]

Whatever bitcointalk is trying to achieve with merit-based ranking is failing.

1. The number of posts drops off over time. After submitting roughly 50 posts, bitcointalk is counting 32 of them. I do not make spammy or irrelevant posts and they are not off-topic. So I spend time contributing more posts which leads to more time on site with 0 merit, which on the surface will make it look like a spammer account.

2. Bitcointalk is not giving members enough merit to give to others (see the rest of the thread on this topic.)

3. Bitcointalk doesn't seem to care and hasn't done anything to address the issue.

I have taken a look at your posts. I expected the typical one-liners, which I found, but from time to time there is a decent one. Have one merit for that one.

I have also observed that Bitcointalk does not count all posts, I believe it is based on posts on the same thread or those that have little time between them. I will ask for an explanation in Meta, since I am an older member and yet still don't know it.

[paxmao]

1. The number of posts drops off over time. After submitting roughly 50 posts, bitcointalk is counting 32 of them. I do not make spammy or irrelevant posts and they are not off-topic.

Posts do not "drop off over time". Your posts were deleted for being spammy, irrelevant, or off-topic, and you are likely to be banned if you continue making such posts.

They don't drop, it is just that sometimes they don't appear on the post count. Even if they are not deleted nor classified as spam.

[_Miracle]

I would have liked to have been flush with Smerit. It had been awhile since hanging out here. I had 20 and gave them away quickly still wishing to give about 60 more out.
I think it's fair for people to give them as they see fit. Shooooot if someone makes me laugh that's a +merit -)