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August 01, 2017, 04:58:32 AM |
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Hi DarkDays,
We sent you that message as a courtesy, as you've been quite vocal on here regarding what you consider improper player conduct. We don't disagree. We're working on ways to improve what we do.
I'm sorry that you feel we aren't addressing your questions to your satisfaction.
We'd rather have you on our team to help tackle multi-accounters, but you're more than entitled to express your opinions how you choose.
- Jason.
Jason, I can't help but feel that your team isn't being efficient enough at combatting collusion. I understand that the worst thing to do is to ban an innocent member that was coincidentally involved in some suspicious hands, but the hand history provided by Sadsong and I exhibited at least two dozen hands from the pairs of players. Multiple times, in fact, there was redundant information to further solidify the fact that these players were intentionally recreating the same circumstances in their hands in order to take place in the freerolls.
If you simply had one staff member looking over suspicious tables (high H/H, low avg. pot) then it would be a simple matter. I myself have already marked at least a score of players due to the fact that when I even sit down at their tables, both players instantly leave.
The frustration should be justified given that you've allowed this for so long and the fact that players are revealing (obvious) colluders left and right shows that the security team needs work. If you cannot see the basic collusion then how can players feel safe at higher stakes? Hi actmyname, Thanks for your comments. We can assure you that we ARE changing things to help ensure a better poker environment for everyone. Stay tuned. - Jason.
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August 01, 2017, 04:00:24 PM |
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Where are the poker freerolls?
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August 01, 2017, 06:47:05 PM |
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Hi DarkDays,
We sent you that message as a courtesy, as you've been quite vocal on here regarding what you consider improper player conduct. We don't disagree. We're working on ways to improve what we do.
I'm sorry that you feel we aren't addressing your questions to your satisfaction.
We'd rather have you on our team to help tackle multi-accounters, but you're more than entitled to express your opinions how you choose.
- Jason.
I've tried to be "on your team" but you ignored everything I said. You've also yet to show that you've stopped any multi accounters or given stolen money back to the players. That's not teamwork, Jason.
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August 01, 2017, 09:34:34 PM |
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Where are the poker freerolls?
Gone.
Removing the freerolls is great and all but then how about the "challenge" rolls? Get rid of the 100 Flops Bronze Challenge. Just do it. If you don't want to spew to the colluders, then you'll get rid of it and force them to play against players that have way higher skill than them. If you don't want to do this then you need to up the security against collusion and catch them. After all, most of your playerbase is in micro stakes.
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August 02, 2017, 12:21:44 AM |
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Deposits and withdrawals are now reactivated! Thank you for your patience.
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August 02, 2017, 05:28:45 AM |
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@nitrogensports
On the Security Matter.
Your “security team” has been proven worthless. No shocker here (well a bit, because not being capable of catching collusion – the easiest form of cheating to catch - on micro stakes is the worst I’ve ever heard of), most poker sites do have incompetent staff when it comes down to the integrity of the games.
Most of them don’t think it is a field worth putting money on, whereas it is the most important thing for a poker site along with keeping the players’ money safe.
That’s why poker sites HAVE TO give the players the ability to check the integrity of the games by themselves and there is only one way: let them download their HHs in a tracker compatible format.
All biggest cheating scandals in the online poker industry have been unveiled by players using HHs and trackers (UB cheating their own players, Pokerstars PLO BOTs rings, 888/Partypoker BOTs…) Even when a poker site has a competent staff, they can’t/won’t reveal everything (see again Pokerstars PLO BOTs ring).
Question: Why are you still refusing to let players double check the integrity of your games by allowing them to download HHs in a compatible tracker format ? Too afraid of what they could reveal with proper tools ?
On the Rake Matter.
Your rake is outrageous.
Let’s take some examples.
On your 100NL Table Rake HU 4% capped @1mBTC || 5+ players 4% capped @5mBTC On average on FIAT sites Rake HU 5% capped @$0.5 || 5+ players 5% capped @$3 Your rake % advantage is gimmicky when your caps are so high.
In term of units: HU cost up to 2x more to play on Nitrogensports than on most FIAT sites (1 unit instead of 0.5) 5+ players cost you up to 66.66% more on Nitrogensports (5 units instead of 3)
Now convert that into dollars (let’s take 1 BTC = $2500): HU cost you up to 5x more on Nitrogensports (caps @ $2.5 instead of $0.5) 5+players cost you up to 4.16x more on Nitrogensports (caps @ $12.5 instead of $3, $12.5 cap really ?!?)
Note: Obviously the higher you play, the “up to” becomes the actual rake you do pay since you can cap every time you enter a flop (starting around 200NL).
One of the biggest cost of a FIAT poker site is their processing fees, in comparison yours are close to none since you’re using Bitcoins. Given that + no KYC + no regulation costs, a Bitcoin poker site should always have a lower rake than any FIAT site. Yours not only is not, but at any decent stake; your rake is way higher.
Question: Apart pure greed, how can you justify such a high rake ?
Nitrogensports has a very good reputation when it comes down to sportsbook. Unfortunately, in more than 18 months timespan your poker offering has not evolved.
Your shortcomings are still the same (lack of security and no will to give players the tools to check by themselves the integrity of your games / one of the most highest rake on the market).
There is a very sad state of Bitcoin poker offerings, sadly it does not seem you are anywhere to change that fact. Far from it actually.
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August 02, 2017, 09:05:42 AM |
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any plans to add Bitcoin Cash deposits and withdrawals? It is already the 3rd biggest crypto 1 day after the launch and up over 60 % in the last 24 hours!
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August 02, 2017, 11:12:36 AM |
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any plans to add Bitcoin Cash deposits and withdrawals? It is already the 3rd biggest crypto 1 day after the launch and up over 60 % in the last 24 hours!
Nitrogen doesn't accept any altcoin, imo they wont implement Bitcoin Cash in their system. Even though Bitcoin Cash is already one of the top crypto it's still hard to trust the coin right away since it's just getting started who knows it could become dead after a year or two.
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August 02, 2017, 08:39:53 PM |
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@nitrogensports
On the Security Matter.
Your “security team” has been proven worthless. No shocker here (well a bit, because not being capable of catching collusion – the easiest form of cheating to catch - on micro stakes is the worst I’ve ever heard of), most poker sites do have incompetent staff when it comes down to the integrity of the games.
Most of them don’t think it is a field worth putting money on, whereas it is the most important thing for a poker site along with keeping the players’ money safe.
That’s why poker sites HAVE TO give the players the ability to check the integrity of the games by themselves and there is only one way: let them download their HHs in a tracker compatible format.
All biggest cheating scandals in the online poker industry have been unveiled by players using HHs and trackers (UB cheating their own players, Pokerstars PLO BOTs rings, 888/Partypoker BOTs…) Even when a poker site has a competent staff, they can’t/won’t reveal everything (see again Pokerstars PLO BOTs ring).
Question: Why are you still refusing to let players double check the integrity of your games by allowing them to download HHs in a compatible tracker format ? Too afraid of what they could reveal with proper tools ?
On the Rake Matter.
Your rake is outrageous.
Let’s take some examples.
On your 100NL Table Rake HU 4% capped @1mBTC || 5+ players 4% capped @5mBTC On average on FIAT sites Rake HU 5% capped @$0.5 || 5+ players 5% capped @$3 Your rake % advantage is gimmicky when your caps are so high.
In term of units: HU cost up to 2x more to play on Nitrogensports than on most FIAT sites (1 unit instead of 0.5) 5+ players cost you up to 66.66% more on Nitrogensports (5 units instead of 3)
Now convert that into dollars (let’s take 1 BTC = $2500): HU cost you up to 5x more on Nitrogensports (caps @ $2.5 instead of $0.5) 5+players cost you up to 4.16x more on Nitrogensports (caps @ $12.5 instead of $3, $12.5 cap really ?!?)
Note: Obviously the higher you play, the “up to” becomes the actual rake you do pay since you can cap every time you enter a flop (starting around 200NL).
One of the biggest cost of a FIAT poker site is their processing fees, in comparison yours are close to none since you’re using Bitcoins. Given that + no KYC + no regulation costs, a Bitcoin poker site should always have a lower rake than any FIAT site. Yours not only is not, but at any decent stake; your rake is way higher.
Question: Apart pure greed, how can you justify such a high rake ?
Nitrogensports has a very good reputation when it comes down to sportsbook. Unfortunately, in more than 18 months timespan your poker offering has not evolved.
Your shortcomings are still the same (lack of security and no will to give players the tools to check by themselves the integrity of your games / one of the most highest rake on the market).
There is a very sad state of Bitcoin poker offerings, sadly it does not seem you are anywhere to change that fact. Far from it actually.
Instead of answering these complaints, Nitro decided to advertise betting on the WNBA. There aren't even any WNBA games today! That's kind of telling.
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August 02, 2017, 11:33:10 PM |
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any plans to add Bitcoin Cash deposits and withdrawals? It is already the 3rd biggest crypto 1 day after the launch and up over 60 % in the last 24 hours!
It is highly unlikely they will be allowing any other coins other than bitcoin,If you are calling bitcoin cash the third biggest currency in the market then they should start accepting other currencies too,which i think wont be in their plans and that will be the case with all of the gambling sites that published their stand on the fork coin.
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August 02, 2017, 11:50:27 PM |
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I wanted to be sure about this.
If I had bitcoin on nitrogen, then I won't be eligible to get that part of bitcoin cash, correct ?
I am assuming Nitrogen will be cashing out all that cash then ?
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August 03, 2017, 01:40:36 AM |
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Can you payout parlay jackpot winners for last month.
Also a suggestion, you should make a minimum bet be something like 0.1 to qualify for the heavy weight portion. The big bettors contribute the most to the jackpot and should be able to earn more of it then small stakes players.
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August 03, 2017, 01:49:13 AM |
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@nitrogensports
On the Security Matter.
Your “security team” has been proven worthless. No shocker here (well a bit, because not being capable of catching collusion – the easiest form of cheating to catch - on micro stakes is the worst I’ve ever heard of), most poker sites do have incompetent staff when it comes down to the integrity of the games.
Most of them don’t think it is a field worth putting money on, whereas it is the most important thing for a poker site along with keeping the players’ money safe.
That’s why poker sites HAVE TO give the players the ability to check the integrity of the games by themselves and there is only one way: let them download their HHs in a tracker compatible format.
All biggest cheating scandals in the online poker industry have been unveiled by players using HHs and trackers (UB cheating their own players, Pokerstars PLO BOTs rings, 888/Partypoker BOTs…) Even when a poker site has a competent staff, they can’t/won’t reveal everything (see again Pokerstars PLO BOTs ring).
Question: Why are you still refusing to let players double check the integrity of your games by allowing them to download HHs in a compatible tracker format ? Too afraid of what they could reveal with proper tools ?
On the Rake Matter.
Your rake is outrageous.
Let’s take some examples.
On your 100NL Table Rake HU 4% capped @1mBTC || 5+ players 4% capped @5mBTC On average on FIAT sites Rake HU 5% capped @$0.5 || 5+ players 5% capped @$3 Your rake % advantage is gimmicky when your caps are so high.
In term of units: HU cost up to 2x more to play on Nitrogensports than on most FIAT sites (1 unit instead of 0.5) 5+ players cost you up to 66.66% more on Nitrogensports (5 units instead of 3)
Now convert that into dollars (let’s take 1 BTC = $2500): HU cost you up to 5x more on Nitrogensports (caps @ $2.5 instead of $0.5) 5+players cost you up to 4.16x more on Nitrogensports (caps @ $12.5 instead of $3, $12.5 cap really ?!?)
Note: Obviously the higher you play, the “up to” becomes the actual rake you do pay since you can cap every time you enter a flop (starting around 200NL).
One of the biggest cost of a FIAT poker site is their processing fees, in comparison yours are close to none since you’re using Bitcoins. Given that + no KYC + no regulation costs, a Bitcoin poker site should always have a lower rake than any FIAT site. Yours not only is not, but at any decent stake; your rake is way higher.
Question: Apart pure greed, how can you justify such a high rake ?
Nitrogensports has a very good reputation when it comes down to sportsbook. Unfortunately, in more than 18 months timespan your poker offering has not evolved.
Your shortcomings are still the same (lack of security and no will to give players the tools to check by themselves the integrity of your games / one of the most highest rake on the market).
There is a very sad state of Bitcoin poker offerings, sadly it does not seem you are anywhere to change that fact. Far from it actually. Hi Wh0CaR3s, Thanks for taking the time to critique our new Poker changes. Our position was clearly outlined in our blog post: https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/lower-poker-rake/We've read thorough your comments. At this time we have no immediate plans to amend our position, other than to say (as mentioned in the blog post) that we will continue to investigate new ways to curb multi-accounting on Nitrogen Poker. Thanks, - Jason.
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August 03, 2017, 01:52:35 AM |
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any plans to add Bitcoin Cash deposits and withdrawals? It is already the 3rd biggest crypto 1 day after the launch and up over 60 % in the last 24 hours! Hi Samarkand, While we're aware of the emergence of BCH as a forked BTC crypto, it's still WAY too early to make assumptions as to how popular it's going to be in the long-run. However we will say that we share a common stake in the outcome of the fork, completely in-step with that of our player base, and we promise that we will make decisions moving forward with this in mind. Thanks, - Jason.
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August 03, 2017, 01:54:59 AM |
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I wanted to be sure about this.
If I had bitcoin on nitrogen, then I won't be eligible to get that part of bitcoin cash, correct ?
I am assuming Nitrogen will be cashing out all that cash then ?
Hi erpbridge, At this time, Nitrogen only deals in Bitcoin and does not currently recognize BCH as a currency on our site. Please be advised that this is a decision made based on the current state of the crypto currency market, and may be reevaluated in the future. For now, when you request a withdrawal please ensure you are using a BTC wallet address and confirm that the address you enter is correct. We cannot retrieve funds once they have been sent and if you send to a BCH address, they may be lost. Thanks, - Jason.
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August 03, 2017, 02:00:59 AM |
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Can you payout parlay jackpot winners for last month.
Also a suggestion, you should make a minimum bet be something like 0.1 to qualify for the heavy weight portion. The big bettors contribute the most to the jackpot and should be able to earn more of it then small stakes players.
Hey DT3, Thanks for the message. We are processing Jackpot payouts in the coming hours. The BTC fork caused some delays with our payout system this week. Heavyweight prizes are more of a reflection on the odds multiplier used to calculate a win, regardless of risk. We really like the idea of rewarding even small stakes players who missed a huge parlay by 1 line. And if they hit the parlay instead, all the better. Thanks for your comments, - Jason.
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August 03, 2017, 07:33:34 AM |
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Hi nitrogensports. I want to ask something, how to make a parlay on e-sports matches ? I've seen people on nitrogensports share their parlay slip with combination of esports matches and when i try it, it says error or something like that. How to make parlay on esports match or enable it ? Thank you.
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