Why is it complicated to get merits

[ibininja]

Hey guys

I understand that the merit system is meant to illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc
Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

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[TMAN]

Hey guys

I understand that the merit system is meant to illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc
Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

You want to light up some shitty posts?

I would start reading and stop bitching, plenty of threads about merit, all at the click of the search button

[BitProNews]

Hey guys

I understand that the merit system is meant to illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc
Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

But why you (like many other users) want to rank-up?? and as you fail to reach next rank, why you claim the forum rules (described as it's unfair) and look for advices? Keep focusing on making good quality posts and collect more knowledge. You need to be a good person in this forum that people can trust you and attracted to your posts with good quality.

[theyoungmillionaire]

Hi,ibininja,

I can see that you're lucky to have 10 merits, some users started with none. I do not think lowering merit requirements can help us, consider it as our grading system in a University, you need to gain more informations to have higher grades or to move to your senior years. In addition, considered yourself lucky cause in Universities you need to pay them for your additional knowledge, while here, you do not need to pay bitcointalk to learn, you just need to help yourself earn knowledge not merit. My tip is just easy: learn to earn. Good luck and see you around.

[mdayonliner]

Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high.
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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements?

Your sales speech is not strong enough IMO to change the merit structure. You are thinking while wearing your own shoes

...any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

I suggest Instead of commenting on everything create some good contents that will benefit the members. It's not that complected at all to receive merits. Examples are all around your. You chose which side to take... Stay the way you are or with those who are receiving merits constantly?

...consider it as our grading system in a University you need to gain more information to have higher grades or to move to your senior years. In addition, considered yourself lucky cause in Universities you need to pay them for your additional knowledge,

I disagree comparing with grading system. It's not any institution that you have a curriculum/syllabus  to follow. Merit awarding view for two persons is not the same. Receiving merit depends on few things...
# Someone with having sMerits reading your posts
# His mood on that specific time while s/he reading
# Their taste of reading etc

There are no certain rule to spend sMerits which turns to merit for you. I certainly agree with other views you provided. It's a place of seeking knowledge and hanging out with the community.

[theyoungmillionaire]

I disagree comparing with grading system. It's not any institution that you have a curriculum/syllabus  to follow. Merit awarding view for two persons is not the same. Receiving merit depends on few things...
# Someone with having sMerits reading your posts
# His mood on that specific time while s/he reading
# Their taste of reading etc

What I mean about grading system=motivation in my reply, don’t take it literally.

[ilcapitano]

Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

Welcome to the Meta board, which has likely changed to be a place for merit complains.
Honestly, please tell me how many activities will you need to meet to rank up from Member to Full Member.
60 activities, right? I don't see anything uncomfortable here. 120 activities to reach Full member rank and 90 merit points. It is possible task.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

It is tough to gain Merit yes, I’m a Legendary Member & I only have 62 Merit points (not counting the other 1000, I had them to start with just by being Legendary).

I’ve seen a lot of people complaining that lower ranked accounts don’t receive many Merit points. It’s total rubbish because I’m Legendary & have been here since 2014 yet I only have 62.

The fact is that Merit is & always will be handed out based on quality of posts. If you make a high quality post it stands a great chance of being deemed Merit worthy by others. It doesn’t matter if you’re black, brown, white, yellow or green, Legendary or a total Noob.

Make high quality, clear & concise posts and you’ll be rewarded with Merit. I appreciate it must be frustrating fighting to rank up but hang on in there. You’ll get there in the end OP.

[bitmover]

 when you make a history of good post quality, you will be receiving merits slowly but constantly from your old posts.

Make good quality content and wait.
It's hard to get merit, but good quality content is now something you must do before being able to rank up.

You do not need to rush. Make few good posts per week, and you will get merits.

Good quality posts require some research and reflexion.
You can earn some merit by luck without any research, but I think you'll not get much.

[Sony.UK]

Hey guys

I understand that the merit system is meant to illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc
Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

Please learn more about to make the quality posts on this forum. I did not mean about the grammar skills, firstly you need to prepare yourself you can assist the person with the details what needed for op.
If simply replies the continuous answer the tail unwanted answers, there is no sense to ask for merits mate.
I hope my reply does not hurted you better make better posts ask to billgator he doing this meriting service for long time.

[joniboini]

Just like what has been told by a few posts above me, basically, you just need to create a good post and that's it. The definition of a good post might be subjective to some point, but keep in mind that it will always be contributive, interesting, or meaningful for others.

Btw, I join this forum around November, so when this merit system is introduced, I was in Member rank with 10 merits as a starting point just like you. My merits mostly come from my contribution to my local board. There's a lot of users there that created a useful and great thread with the purpose of helping my local community while at the same time trying to solve the problems that arise in my local boards, and they too got a lot of merits.

Other than that, I choose to post in a thread mainly in serious discussion, meta, and some others because in those boards, the 'spam virus' isn't that bad as what happens to the other boards. Engage in an active discussion that will benefit yourself. After taking a look at your post history, I suggest you decrease your habit of doing a quote pyramid.

[stompix]

I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

So basically even if the limit would be lowered to 11 merits for the next rank you would still be unable to rank up.

Hey guys

I understand that the merit system is meant to illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc
Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

1. Use the search feature more often, for example
2. Stop posting 99% in the shitcoin section. Nobody is giving merit for two liners there an that is the only board where you're active.

[TheUltraElite]

It is tough to gain Merit yes, I’m a Legendary Member & I only have 62 Merit points (not counting the other 1000, I had them to start with just by being Legendary).

I’ve seen a lot of people complaining that lower ranked accounts don’t receive many Merit points. It’s total rubbish because I’m Legendary & have been here since 2014 yet I only have 62.

I have got 2 less than you have after 500 default merits for being Hero and I am quite happy with the points I have earned.

The fact is that Merit is & always will be handed out based on quality of posts. If you make a high quality post it stands a great chance of being deemed Merit worthy by others. It doesn’t matter if you’re black, brown, white, yellow or green, Legendary or a total Noob.

Technically speaking a newbie making a merit crybaby post will never get any merits. Be it well written or poorly written. Again a known and popular member of the forum making a general comment might actually get some merits from even non-merit sources might give them merits (pseudo-asslicking/trying to attract their attention).

Make high quality, clear & concise posts and you’ll be rewarded with Merit. I appreciate it must be frustrating fighting to rank up but hang on in there. You’ll get there in the end OP.

It depends on the merit source. Not all posts written in the way you speak will get merits.

[BTCeminjas]

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Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

As what have TMAN's said you light up those shitty posters and spammers if you lowered that merit required even though farmers account.
You're not alone here mate even I stuck on this rank but I still enjoy reading and posting in the forum, just forgot for a while those merit system and keep up the good post just like a genuine post. Probably after you do that without knowing you, your post was merited to merit source or un merit source as long as they like your thought.

Be it well written or poorly written. Again a known and popular member of the forum making a general comment might actually get some merits from even non-merit sources might give them merits (pseudo-asslicking/trying to attract their attention).

Yes, precisely this is must you should do OP, don't waste your time asking or trying to change what our admin implemented.

[eddie13]

I tried the signature thing, I really didn't like how I felt pressured to post someone elses way.. I decided screw it..

This merit thing.. Once again I feel pressured to post a cretin way..
Oh man now I am going to have to try to make these these big posts that stand out as being of excelent content, oh and better make sure to post it in just the right spot so it will get good visibility..

Blah.. Screw merit chasing.. I'm going to post whatever I want..
Maybe when I have like 1500 activity and am still not ranked up I'll reassess the situation..

That's how I feel about it personally, and I do not expect to get many merits with my normal posting behavior, so it's whatever..

I am glad the merit system is here though, I think it is doing very well, and with the amount of accounts getting destroyed with red these days, as time goes on their will be more merit to go around for those who deserve it and those who deserve it will stand out easier without so much background noise..

So I think if you aren't a spammer/scammer/untrustable/just out to make money, just chill out, do your thing, be you, and soon enough you will get your merit..

Right now it looks like you have to be all special and do great things to get merits, but soon I think that just casually being a non-negative user will be enough to get noticed and get ranked up...

I think Theymos said something about sources just going ahead and ranking up accounts that they think deserve it, that time will come, just be a good dude and I think sources will eventually rank you up..

[The Sceptical Chymist]

illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc

You meant to write "eliminate" I'm sure, right?

It's supposed to be tough.  If it wasn't, then we'd basically go back to where we were prior to January, and most people who've been on bitcointalk a while and have seen how toxic the shitposting problem is would argue that that would be regressing.  I'm among those. 

What's your rush to rank up, anyway?  You don't need to answer that, because it's rhetorical.  You want to increase your earnings and need a higher rank to do so.  We've heard this before, many times.  I'd suggest locking the thread.

[colkcolk]

I've found lot of merit topic in this forum, perhaps now I am not considering and paying lot of attention for this merit as can be seen also in my profile without merit at all . For me, just still to learn a lot and also reading. But perhaps for you with much longer than me in this forum, merit is now a problem because of getting it is not easy. Hmm I am thinking also someday to know how creating good/high quality post in this forum.

[nidacoinlove]

Where you are complaining about merit to be high, there are people who got it and have been ranked up. It's all about who deserves it. Stop crying for merit and work hard for it if you want to get promotion.

[LogitechMouse]

Hey guys

I understand that the merit system is meant to illuminate/minimize the number of crappy posts...etc
Honestly I find it really complicated jumping up a rank; the merit gap between ranks is really high. I mean I have 10 merits I need 90 to jump up a rank it has been really really long and not even a single merit scored.

Any consideration of lowering the merits required for the rank up requirements? or any tips you good guys have on how or where do I have to be to get them merits?

I understand that you are a member right now and you need 90 merits to become a full member. Don't you know that most SHITPOSTERS in the forum are ranked jr. member and member. Maybe there are some low ranked users here that are contributing but most as in MOST of them are just contributing nothing here in the forum but just do some shitposts, one liner posts etc.

Regarding to  your question, there is no consideration of lowering of merits right now because rank here is useless. If you want to learn something, rank is useless.

Oh I know now, you are complaining because you want to gain higher stakes in the signature campaign right . You can get merit by contributing here. As my observation, people who know the complex things about bitcoin like mining, transaction, wallets, nodes etc. are the ones who got the most merits. Maybe you can learn them too

[CryptoAssasin]

Many don't realize what is the positive huge impact of Merit system. Imagine those multiple alternative accounts ranking up by just being active, replying unrelated post, meeting the number of activity every 2 weeks using the old ranking system. Today's ranking system is different. Since merits are hard to achieve, those alternative accounts and have higher ranks are now afraid getting a negative trust and very careful on not to spam the forum and not joining the same bounties and airdrops.