Reapplying as a merit source!

[digaran]

It's me. I need immunity theymos.
I tried to comment offensively on politics and society to test the tolerance of our new mod. he didn't break. but when I got into the details of his work by showing some references, others came to aid and defamed me.

I need immunity, if there is a possibility to use a translation tool on a local board, I could also temporarily distribute a few dozens of sMerits to the highest quality posters in Japanese local board.

Bottom line, I give up. without any support I'm dead on the waters against your staff members. so I'd like to reapply. I would also remove my signature and avatar to see if that could make a change. I'm also trying to identify useful *assets for both forum and it's community. if community wants me to behave maturely, so be it.

*Refer to my merit stats.

EDIT: strikethrough above and the following:

I thought Japanese board has no mod nor any merit source otherwise I wouldn't have asked to distribute merits in there.
Also I don't need to be a source, I want to, if there are better candidates, consider them please @theymos. I just don't know why aren't people lining up to apply? anyways you should consider me as the last resort.

Another thing: read this post. you think I was trying to defend the OP? I was and I am trying to find a solution to make it cost money or time for account farmers. if you are willing to ignore that. I wont. if you think I'm here to post and get money, you are wrong. I reached my 60 required posts for 2 weeks time a long time ago. nobody is giving me extra money for posting here. if you also believe there is no mercy for sinners. I hope you never find yourself at the mercy of such person.

[suchmoon]

From what I've seen you can't possibly "behave maturely", or coherently.

What does it all have to do with immunity, or your spat with a moderator? Actually fuck that, I don't wanna know.

[DarkStar_]

From what I've seen you can't possibly "behave maturely", or coherently.

What does it all have to do with immunity, or your spat with a moderator? Actually fuck that, I don't wanna know.

I think his post is sarcastic?  

[Flying Hellfish]

From what I've seen you can't possibly "behave maturely", or coherently.

What does it all have to do with immunity, or your spat with a moderator? Actually fuck that, I don't wanna know.

LOL, I'd hardly call it a spat.  I have done exactly nothing this clown.  I have essentially ignored him except when he blatantly lies about me specifically.  All I've done is respond with facts to refute his lies about me.

I don't give him much thought lately TBH.  Then all of a sudden he gets red trust and some how it's my fault or some bullshit.

The dude has mental issues and needs medical help ASAP IMO.

[TMAN]

Op either has mental issues or narcotics issues.

[pugman]

The dude has mental issues and needs medical help ASAP IMO.

Therapy! Digaran,why did you resign from being a merit source? Scratch that,you apparently knew that you were unfit for the community. So why again reapply?
And even <insert the most fucked up person you know here except digaran> will have more chance of becoming a merit source if you keep your "weird goofy behaviour" which almost no one understands.

Look your sarcasm is definitely not intended for everyone. People still get offended by sarcasm,trust me, they can't keep themselves in their pants.

[suchmoon]

I think his post is sarcastic?  

No, I think that's digaran's default state of mind. I'd be shocked if he actually gets cleaned up and starts posting something that makes sense.

[mdayonliner]

I noticed this topic immediately after the OP published it on the board (I have notification for meta is ON). The reactions I am seeing are as I expected. I guess I just became a fortune-teller  

Digaran,why did you resign from being a merit source? Scratch that,you apparently knew that you were unfit for the community. So why again reapply?

Can anyone bring me a reference that says the resignation came from him?

By the way OP, thanks for all the entertainments which are keeping us (can not guarantee others but me for sure) engaged.
A comedian deliberately cracks his jokes but in your case unfortunately you became the joke

PS: Where are the collections of 10 posts that requires to apply for a merit source? Come on! focus on basics!!

[shahzadafzal]

What is going on? Is it only me or Meta is really one of the most entertaining sections of the bitcointalk? So much drama so much happening all the time.

It was suppose to be "Meta", referring to itself or conversation of its genre; self-referential



Somehow it's always revolving around merits.. merit complaints, merit abuse, giveways... difficult to track. Who's supporting who or who's fighting? or sarcasm?

I hope all these discussion will be fruitful at the end.

Can anyone bring me a reference that says the resignation came from him?

I saw this post from @digaran and I was like ok may be it's a joke or a bluff.

As of this moment I'm no longer a merit source.  there was too much drama and clearly I wasn't trustworthy enough. I was unfit to represent this forum and the community. I have resigned.

[mdayonliner]

As of this moment I'm no longer a merit source.  there was too much drama and clearly I wasn't trustworthy enough. I was unfit to represent this forum and the community. I have resigned.

That's HIS statement. So, we actually don't know who first showed the back. Him or theymos? I am interested to see something where theymos or any other admin was saying that digaran requested for a resign.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

No, I think that's digaran's default state of mind. I'd be shocked if he actually gets cleaned up and starts posting something that makes sense.

Eh, I say screw it.  I have not looked at his merit-giving history, but assuming that he gives them out judiciously, I'd say we need a diverse crew of merit sources and glaring mental health and/or substance indulgence issues shouldn't necessarily disqualify him.  If he hasn't given them out appropriately, that's another story.  I'll take a look just for the hell of it, but in general I'll stand by my opinion.

What I definitely do not want to see is people who abuse their positions as merit sources, by selling them, giving them to friends, or what have you.  I don't think digaran was ever accused of that.

Edit:  Just looked quickly, and he seems to have sent merits to members I've sent merits to and who usually make good posts.  Seems alright to me.

Fair point but I'm sure there are other potential sources who could do the job with less drama. Appointing him as a source so that he could "resign" again when he runs out of sMerits seems like a waste.

Lol.  I wasn't arguing that he's not crazy.  He seems like he needs some sort of behavioral contract in order to be a merit source.  Either way, I have no doubt that he'll be a drama queen regardless of whether he's a merit source.  As long as he gives out merit appropriately I've no problem with him being one. 

He's just looking for attention in all the wrong ways, like many of the psychologically ill and substance abusers I've met in my life.  Also, I would say that he can hand out merits just as easily if you have him on ignore so that you don't have to read any of his ramblings.

[suchmoon]

No, I think that's digaran's default state of mind. I'd be shocked if he actually gets cleaned up and starts posting something that makes sense.

Eh, I say screw it.  I have not looked at his merit-giving history, but assuming that he gives them out judiciously, I'd say we need a diverse crew of merit sources and glaring mental health and/or substance indulgence issues shouldn't necessarily disqualify him.  If he hasn't given them out appropriately, that's another story.  I'll take a look just for the hell of it, but in general I'll stand by my opinion.

What I definitely do not want to see is people who abuse their positions as merit sources, by selling them, giving them to friends, or what have you.  I don't think digaran was ever accused of that.

Edit:  Just looked quickly, and he seems to have sent merits to members I've sent merits to and who usually make good posts.  Seems alright to me.

Fair point but I'm sure there are other potential sources who could do the job with less drama. Appointing him as a source so that he could "resign" again when he runs out of sMerits seems like a waste.

[jackg]

Something makes me think that Digaran made this thread and just left it to see how much controversy it would cause. I'm not sure why everyone here is commenting so much still since he hasn't yet returned and posted, since making the thread.

[BTCforJoe]

Something makes me think that Digaran made this thread and just left it to see how much controversy it would cause. I'm not sure why everyone here is commenting so much still since he hasn't yet returned and posted, since making the thread.

This is classic digaran, from what I've gathered in the past. But he will reference others' posts in new posts that are created in topics that are completely unrelated to the context of where he's posting, so you might want to check his post history to see if he has replied to your post elsewhere on the forums.

And if I'm being completely honest, I am not sure if this post itself is a serious one or a sarcastic one. @digaran often claims that he's joking when saying something, but only after someone calls him out about something that he just said. His negative trust is a result of that practice, except that he crossed paths with a DT member that doesn't take lightly to joking about the things that he has joked about.

Whether @digaran is fit to be a merit source isn't really the question we should be asking, in my opinion. It's whether he's cut out to be a representative of the forums. I think all would be fine and dandy having him as a merit source if he didn't blatantly announce it so often across the forums, especially when he continues to post such controversial, racist and insulting posts in the ways that he does.

He has also stated that he wants to use his merit source status as some sort of "immunity"? That, to me, shows irresponsibility.

I say there are other qualified applicants for the merit source position. It's a "nay" from me (not that it matters).

[digaran]

It's whether he's cut out to be a representative of the forums. I think all would be fine and dandy having him as a merit source if he didn't blatantly announce it so often across the forums,

This is the mentality of people like you, that's why I say I need immunity because you all are too afraid to say anything when somebody in a position of power is doing something wrong. when I was a source, you were insulting theymos by saying that making me a source was a mistake.
I resigned to achieve not one but a few things, first I was offended by having 0 sMerits for days, because I didn't become a source for my own benefit.

Second, I wanted to show you that I'm not in your way, didn't you and LoyceV say that I should be replaced with better candidates? you are saying it now.

Third reason, I thought there are better choices than me. it was a mistake. all of you people are here for your own benefit. you are hypocrites.
I will remove my signature on wednesday whether I'm a source or have no negative trust, I'm going to stay here and help this community to show
Who you really are. @all of you hypocrites.

I say there are other qualified applicants for the merit source position. It's a "nay" from me (not that it matters).

It matters (to me but to theymos? I think he has his reasons), I did care and I proved it to you by resigning. I do care about your signatureless campaign, I requested to move your thread back in services section. if that is what it takes for you to contribute, I'd say we should let you to get paid per post by Chipmixer, we should let you to help in distributing merits even if people are selling their accounts after getting merits. I'd say we should also ban account sales.

except that he crossed paths with a DT member that doesn't take lightly to joking about the things that he has joked about.

Except he wasn't a DT before crossing path with me. I say that we should also let him stay on DT now that he is helping and we should also hold him accountable for his actions. if theymos is moderating merit sources, if he is reducing or increasing their source merits. he should also care about DT members and their actions. if that DT member is only a DT member because he crossed path with me, he should know that.

He has also stated that he wants to use his merit source status as some sort of "immunity"? That, to me, shows irresponsibility.

You are a hypocrite. do you want to know what is really irresponsibility? when you see me doing something wrong, if you know that I could benefit this community given the chance. you should discuss with me to help me improve myself. you should think about what I'm suggesting. red tagging me just because you can and just because you know nobody would question you is the definition of irresponsibility.

[petyang12]

If that's what you think that you are unfit to be a merit source then why did you reapply to be a merit source again? As far as I have read in this thread there are positive and negative comments about you. To be honest you shouldn't resign if you just reapply again, you just made the admins or staffs getting busy. Maybe they're right that you're mentally ill, you just show them an example/sign that you're mentally ill by do these things,
1. Creating threads that you resigned as merit source.
2. Create thread that you want to reapply as merit source.

[Theb]

The dude has mental issues and needs medical help ASAP IMO.

Therapy! Digaran,why did you resign from being a merit source? Scratch that,you apparently knew that you were unfit for the community. So why again reapply?
And even <insert the most fucked up person you know here except digaran> will have more chance of becoming a merit source if you keep your "weird goofy behaviour" which almost no one understands.

Look your sarcasm is definitely not intended for everyone. People still get offended by sarcasm,trust me, they can't keep themselves in their pants.

Now I know the reason why we got down from 80 to 79 Merit Sources in the forum, if he resigned voluntarily as a merit source I don't think he has the right to be one again. Because he personally knew that he has wrong doings and stepping down is the right solution at that time. And the only reason I see why you want to have your merit source job back is for you to feel good about yourself, you want to see that you still somewhat have an authority in the forum which I personally don't think you need, especially when you resorted to attempted to extort money out of people just to remove your red tag for them. Tagging persons with the option to remove it for money makes the trust system worthless in the forum.

[digaran]

I don't think he has the right to be one again. Because he personally knew that he has wrong doings and stepping down is the right solution at that time

Currently Japanese board has no merit source, I'm still not sure if I could effectively distribute merits, but nobody else has offered something better. I think you ignored my last post and my reasons.

resorted to attempted to extort money out of people just to remove your red tag for them

Typical reaction. do you see anybody care about my red tags? are people lining up to pay me for red tag removal? did I ask for money for myself?
Typical reaction of account farmer/seller, are you farming accounts and cheating bounties with multiple accounts? because you'd think of me as
Extortionist and would accuse me because you don't want to pay a fine or report thousands of garbage posts. of course I'm racist, lier, extortionist.
Because if I'm to be taken seriously, you all would have to pack and leave, no more cheating for you guys.

Tagging persons with the option to remove it for money makes the trust system worthless in the forum.

What makes the trust system worthless is allowing people to abuse their positions, when they see a long term signature campaign, they would use their influence to apply as many alt accounts as they can. bribing campaign managers with merits and DT2 status. using merits on threads of their own trades with other people. oh this guy just bought a physical Bitcoin from me, let me return the favour by giving him some merits.

[suchmoon]

Lol.  I wasn't arguing that he's not crazy.  He seems like he needs some sort of behavioral contract in order to be a merit source.  Either way, I have no doubt that he'll be a drama queen regardless of whether he's a merit source.  As long as he gives out merit appropriately I've no problem with him being one.  

He's just looking for attention in all the wrong ways, like many of the psychologically ill and substance abusers I've met in my life.  Also, I would say that he can hand out merits just as easily if you have him on ignore so that you don't have to read any of his ramblings.

I don't care much about his ramblings in the forum posts, which of course I can ignore or just scoff at, but this muppet is posting his "jokes" in the trust ratings as well... so I'm not sure his "mental illness" wouldn't affect his abilities as a merit source. Actually I'm quite sure it would, seeing how he perverts the other forum tools (trust, mod reports). He's now claiming he can merit Japanese posts using translation software. What could possibly go wrong with that

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=806776


Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

[jackg]

It's whether he's cut out to be a representative of the forums. I think all would be fine and dandy having him as a merit source if he didn't blatantly announce it so often across the forums,

This is the mentality of people like you, that's why I say I need immunity because you all are too afraid to say anything when somebody in a position of power is doing something wrong. when I was a source, you were insulting theymos by saying that making me a source was a mistake.
I resigned to achieve not one but a few things, first I was offended by having 0 sMerits for days, because I didn't become a source for my own benefit.

Second, I wanted to show you that I'm not in your way, didn't you and LoyceV say that I should be replaced with better candidates? you are saying it now.

Third reason, I thought there are better choices than me. it was a mistake. all of you people are here for your own benefit. you are hypocrites.
I will remove my signature on wednesday whether I'm a source or have no negative trust, I'm going to stay here and help this community to show
Who you really are. @all of you hypocrites.

I say there are other qualified applicants for the merit source position. It's a "nay" from me (not that it matters).

It matters (to me but to theymos? I think he has his reasons), I did care and I proved it to you by resigning. I do care about your signatureless campaign, I requested to move your thread back in services section. if that is what it takes for you to contribute, I'd say we should let you to get paid per post by Chipmixer, we should let you to help in distributing merits even if people are selling their accounts after getting merits. I'd say we should also ban account sales.

except that he crossed paths with a DT member that doesn't take lightly to joking about the things that he has joked about.

Except he wasn't a DT before crossing path with me. I say that we should also let him stay on DT now that he is helping and we should also hold him accountable for his actions. if theymos is moderating merit sources, if he is reducing or increasing their source merits. he should also care about DT members and their actions. if that DT member is only a DT member because he crossed path with me, he should know that.

He has also stated that he wants to use his merit source status as some sort of "immunity"? That, to me, shows irresponsibility.

You are a hypocrite. do you want to know what is really irresponsibility? when you see me doing something wrong, if you know that I could benefit this community given the chance. you should discuss with me to help me improve myself. you should think about what I'm suggesting. red tagging me just because you can and just because you know nobody would question you is the definition of irresponsibility.

I was wrong, you returned digaran.

If you can be a merit source... Anyone can.

Can you also post evidence you were once a merit source as I don't know if you were or not and am considering it unlikely.

@btcforjoe, to be a merit source you have to be able to analyse others' posts. You don't technically have to post well yourself though it helps if you are a " good" member of the forum.