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December 05, 2013, 07:19:34 AM
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An announcement on Bitfunder announced that there's will be an automatic share transfer on 2 DEC 2013 to direct shares. Just passed the Wednesday dividend pay out, there's no show of any dividend for our shares previously on Bitfunder to receive any dividend!  So did Ukyo really transfer the share or Friedcat didn't finish the process???  I tried to message both of them,but none of them replied. Any one can give any news,thx.
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December 05, 2013, 07:52:11 AM
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<eryxz> @ukyo, did friedcat get the AM share list from bitfunder? haven't received divs. for 3weeks now...
[11:34] <ThickAsThieves> no he hasnt
[11:35] <eryxz> kk, thx


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December 05, 2013, 08:04:10 AM
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<eryxz> @ukyo, did friedcat get the AM share list from bitfunder? haven't received divs. for 3weeks now...
[11:34] <ThickAsThieves> no he hasnt
[11:35] <eryxz> kk, thx

Then when is UKYO going to pass the list??? not on 2 DEC 2013???
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December 05, 2013, 09:00:12 AM
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were you really expecting that?

after all the "issues" that his ridiculous weexchange and bitfunder had?

it's so easy to con you, guys Sad

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December 05, 2013, 09:11:26 AM
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were you really expecting that?

after all the "issues" that his ridiculous weexchange and bitfunder had?

it's so easy to con you, guys Sad


I am expecting friedcat will involve this since his the issuer.
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December 05, 2013, 09:26:10 AM
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were you really expecting that?

after all the "issues" that his ridiculous weexchange and bitfunder had?

it's so easy to con you, guys Sad


I am expecting friedcat will involve this since his the issuer.
and what could he do?

technically those shares are ukyo's (if he really has them anyway), there's no legal ground for friedcat to arbitrarily move them elsewhere.

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December 05, 2013, 09:30:52 AM
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were you really expecting that?

after all the "issues" that his ridiculous weexchange and bitfunder had?

it's so easy to con you, guys Sad


I am expecting friedcat will involve this since his the issuer.
and what could he do?

technically those shares are ukyo's (if he really has them anyway), there's no legal ground for friedcat to arbitrarily move them elsewhere.

Friedcat has already stopped paying dividend for those shares until its settle done.
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December 05, 2013, 09:37:43 AM
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were you really expecting that?

after all the "issues" that his ridiculous weexchange and bitfunder had?

it's so easy to con you, guys Sad


I am expecting friedcat will involve this since his the issuer.
and what could he do?

technically those shares are ukyo's (if he really has them anyway), there's no legal ground for friedcat to arbitrarily move them elsewhere.

Friedcat has already stopped paying dividend for those shares until its settle done.

Do you have a source for that?

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.140
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December 05, 2013, 09:41:09 AM
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were you really expecting that?

after all the "issues" that his ridiculous weexchange and bitfunder had?

it's so easy to con you, guys Sad


I am expecting friedcat will involve this since his the issuer.
and what could he do?

technically those shares are ukyo's (if he really has them anyway), there's no legal ground for friedcat to arbitrarily move them elsewhere.
WTF are you talking about - technically? Everyone knows who owns those shares in reality.
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December 05, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
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This was said earlier on IRC channel #bitfunder

<wei> anyone know  when will Ukyo transfer the G.ASICMINER-PT share to direct share?
<Ukyo> wei: I am setting up a page for that.
<Ukyo> the announcement said that BF will force shares to issuers on dec 2nd
<Ukyo> nothign aboutg gasic

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December 05, 2013, 02:31:04 PM
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This was said earlier on IRC channel #bitfunder

<wei> anyone know  when will Ukyo transfer the G.ASICMINER-PT share to direct share?
<Ukyo> wei: I am setting up a page for that.
<Ukyo> the announcement said that BF will force shares to issuers on dec 2nd
<Ukyo> nothign aboutg gasic
He speaks in riddles. He is a f***ing oracle.
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December 05, 2013, 03:07:23 PM
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This was said earlier on IRC channel #bitfunder

<wei> anyone know  when will Ukyo transfer the G.ASICMINER-PT share to direct share?
<Ukyo> wei: I am setting up a page for that.
<Ukyo> the announcement said that BF will force shares to issuers on dec 2nd
<Ukyo> nothign aboutg gasic
He speaks in riddles. He is a f***ing oracle.
I'm not sure why he would need to setup a page, why not just send fc the list?

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December 05, 2013, 10:43:27 PM
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The div payment was stopped? Am i remembering wrong or did ukyo say he asked friedcat to stop div payments since the div payments would go into the weexchange wallet that cant be accessed. Friedcat didnt do it. Friedcat only seems to check mails with share transfer requests, no other emails.
I think the chance is high the divs are caught in weexchange wallet and owners have to wait for the problems to be solved.

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December 06, 2013, 02:14:42 AM
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I want my shares to be transferred to direct shares!!!
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December 06, 2013, 03:30:16 AM
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technically those shares are ukyo's (if he really has them anyway), there's no legal ground for friedcat to arbitrarily move them elsewhere.

Technically, there's probably a whole lot of ineffectual legal ground, but it's really not the be all and end all.

The dividends belong to the shareholders per Ukyo's promise, and the list is sitting on FC's computer, so he has de facto ownership of the numbers in the list.

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December 06, 2013, 12:20:23 PM
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I think the chance is high the divs are caught in weexchange wallet and owners have to wait for the problems to be solved.
I think by now its quite clear that there are no technical issues with WeEx's wallet.
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December 06, 2013, 02:19:40 PM
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Although got my coins stuck in weexchange, but priority is get my shares out now.
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December 06, 2013, 02:59:18 PM
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technically those shares are ukyo's (if he really has them anyway), there's no legal ground for friedcat to arbitrarily move them elsewhere.

Technically, there's probably a whole lot of ineffectual legal ground, but it's really not the be all and end all.

The dividends belong to the shareholders per Ukyo's promise, and the list is sitting on FC's computer, so he has de facto ownership of the numbers in the list.
are you serious?

do you really think friedcat has received the list and not updated it?

really?

I think the chance is high the divs are caught in weexchange wallet and owners have to wait for the problems to be solved.
I think by now its quite clear that there are no technical issues with WeEx's wallet.
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December 06, 2013, 07:56:40 PM
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I think the chance is high the divs are caught in weexchange wallet and owners have to wait for the problems to be solved.
I think by now its quite clear that there are no technical issues with WeEx's wallet.

I was informed there is a reason that ukyo cant speak more than he did and that he still is working with NEOBEE to solve this all. At least he isnt running. Thats something i would await from a scammer.
Only hope remains... slightly drifting away...

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December 06, 2013, 08:22:17 PM
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The dividends belong to the shareholders per Ukyo's promise, and the list is sitting on FC's computer, so he has de facto ownership of the numbers in the list.
are you serious?

do you really think friedcat has received the list and not updated it?

really?



I was talking about the list of who earns the direct AM dividends.

As for the pass-through list, wasn't that available for anyone to download?


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December 06, 2013, 08:43:51 PM
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The dividends belong to the shareholders per Ukyo's promise, and the list is sitting on FC's computer, so he has de facto ownership of the numbers in the list.
are you serious?

do you really think friedcat has received the list and not updated it?

really?



I was talking about the list of who earns the direct AM dividends.

As for the pass-through list, wasn't that available for anyone to download?




In fact, right now we can access that list, json format:

https://bitfunder.com/assetlist.json

I have downloaded this list.
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December 07, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
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bitfunder website is back online and says

G.ASICMINER-PT (Claiming information will be listed soon. Check back here.)
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December 11, 2013, 02:31:42 PM
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one week passed what is Ukyo doing???  a page to collect will cost one week???
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December 12, 2013, 09:05:11 AM
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finally friedcat replied me:

Hi kirawei,

We already stopped paying to g.asicminer.pt's dividend address. The former payments are recorded as credits. After the direct shares show up from g.asicminer.pt, we will pay all missing dividends along with that week's.

Best regards,

friedcat
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December 17, 2013, 11:43:38 AM
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got one reply from Ukyo just now:


[21:27] <@Ukyo> where the system forces txn fees due to transaction size etc, we are covering the fe
[21:27] <@Ukyo> wei: your am transfer portal is coming soon
[21:28] <Red_Wolf_2> ahh awesome
[21:30] <wei> finally!
[21:30] <wei> but when you say coming! is how long??



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December 17, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
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<@Ukyo> hopefully a few days
[21:44] <@Ukyo> at most
[21:44] <@Ukyo> did i break teh forums?
[21:45] <@Ukyo> stopped loading
[21:45] <@Ukyo> for me
[21:46] <wei> OK
[21:46] <wei> thanks
[21:46] <wei> thats all i want to know
[21:46] <wei> appreciate for your hard working. hope everything will go right
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December 17, 2013, 11:52:13 AM
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post from another thread -->https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg4006582#msg4006582
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Hello Everyone,

I would like to say thank you to everyone for being patient and understanding during these difficult times.

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Fifth, G.AsicMiner-PT:
A few weeks ago, I sent FriedCat an email and asked him to hold dividends for the AM shares being held. He still
sent that weeks dividends which I currently hold in a separate wallet apart from WeExchange. At that point
all shares were accounted for by dividend payout calculation. (The only method to track shares directly held.)
No transfers have been made since so all shares should be 100% accounted for. I spoke to FriedCat and he agreed
to hold the future dividends and will disperse them as he processes the transfers. Many users have asked to not
use their email address, or public bitcoin address, etc for the transfer and dividends. So it was decided
to use the same portal as the loan shares or a third portal for transfer management so users can decide what
bitcoin address to send the held dividends to, and what email/bitcoin address to list with FriedCat.
FriedCat will get a weekly lists of transfers and will payout the remaining held dividends he is holding.

I want to make one thing very clear. We are working very hard trying to do everything we can to ensure all
users will be able to claim a full 100% of the amount stuck.  No one set out with or currently has the
intention to scam anyone. That is why we are here and doing all this. The available bitcoin issue is not due
to me spending other peoples bitcoins or accidentally deleting the wallet. It is your choice to believe it or not.
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Once again, I would like to extend my deepest apologies for the situation and thank everyone for their patience and
understanding. We will continue to work towards all solutions that will help to correct for this.

Thank You,
Jon Montroll / Ukyo

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December 21, 2013, 11:27:11 AM
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Any news on how to claim the shares yet?

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Any news on how to claim the shares yet?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg4071275#msg4071275
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