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May 08, 2018, 11:12:35 AM |
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Daneel bounty campaign thread was managed by mazzer. However, there's another guy involve in the bounty management who I believe is the community manager for Daneel, his name is Cryptoofox and here you can see him as an Admin in Daneel main group and bounty grouphttps://t.me/daneel_bountyAfter checking the copy of the final spreadsheet I came across many suspicious activities been done by the community manager Cryptoofox. First case, he participated with his alt and reported with his own account Example: his report: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2667581.msg29941451#msg29941451Archival: http://archive.is/FZbqtWhen you search with his FB and Twitter name in the spreadsheet, you can see it's registered under a different username (bluhori) with no link to his alt profile. Reference: FB #274 Twitter #42 Telegram #601 Second case, The same username (bluhori) registered for the signature campaign #153 and the profile link takes you to Cryptoofox profile. Okay, here what's wrong with this: - He's registered under a different name - He's registered on a different rank: - In the spreadsheet it says (Senior Member) - where the username (bluhori) doesn't exist and Cryptoofox is a (member rank)
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May 08, 2018, 05:20:05 PM |
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Wow looks like I am famous now. Let me explain the situation here.
First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.
Second Why would I cheat for couple of thousand DAN tokens? for few hundred buck?. I have my own investment funds. And I have been investing in many ICOs as a early adopter. Plus check my twitter for god's sake.
Third, Anyone is eligible for bounty program as long as he/she follow the rules. The story line is My brother used my bitcointalk account to register in the bounty program since he didn't have one. I encouraged him to do it as a stepping stone for the jungle of bounty. He used my BCT account to register and hence the entry highlighted above. This screenshot was taken from the first version of the excel sheet. There were few errors in the sheet which we have rectified. Final sheets reflects the correct amounts and status. You can go to the proof link and see it for your self. The work is being done regardless of BCT account being mine. Hence the token amount is allocated accordingly.
Hope this reply clarifies everything.
cheers CF
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May 08, 2018, 05:50:42 PM |
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Third, Anyone is eligible for bounty program as long as he/she follow the rules. The story line is My brother used my bitcointalk account to register in the bounty program since he didn't have one.
Yeah, we hear this "brother/sister/mother/dog" story all the time. I like the way you tried to say you didn't cheat with your first two reasons, then admitted you cheated with the third. :/
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May 08, 2018, 06:09:57 PM |
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Personally I believe participating in a bounty campaign you manage is a conflict of interest. You're already being paid to do the work, so there's no reason for you to chase tokens as well and open yourself up to bending rules to make sure you qualify for the bounty pay as well. It's called "double dipping"
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May 08, 2018, 06:43:15 PM |
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First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.
I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori)
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May 08, 2018, 07:01:18 PM |
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Personally I believe participating in a bounty campaign you manage is a conflict of interest. You're already being paid to do the work, so there's no reason for you to chase tokens as well and open yourself up to bending rules to make sure you qualify for the bounty pay as well. It's called "double dipping"
Not necessarily. Most of the good bounty managers are paid in ETH/BTC and not the tokens for the bounty. Should they wish to participate in the bounties, they should be applying through the same rules as created for the other participants.For instance, if the campaign manager wishes to write a good blog post for some tokens,he should be allowed to do that provided he should judge his stuff rationally which is not the case here.
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May 08, 2018, 07:23:47 PM |
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<snip>
I tagged this user for dishonestly giving his "brother" (I don't believe that) a spot in the campaign and for the other accusations. He's clearly not being honest and should never be involved in managing a bounty or in any other high-level position in same. Looks like he'll do whatever he needs to do to siphon money out of bounties, and it isn't fair to other participants. Good call on posting this, OP. Edit: magisterr just deleted his post that I just quoted but snipped. Not sure why.
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May 08, 2018, 07:29:55 PM Last edit: May 08, 2018, 09:02:22 PM by magisterr |
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This project (Daneel) together with this bounty manager (not Sylon, I mean cryptobox) scammed investors and bounty hunters. Sylon is a honest manager I think. And everyone know him. But they (Daneel team kick out him, and hired new and started scam people. Investors - because they dumping price, and bounty, because just stealth their tokens. Look how they selling tokens One of their adress https://ethplorer.io/address/0x09d30d57b096ac4c16371cf124b67a1fb9f419c0At 26th and 28th of April (when price was highest) a lot of tokens from this adress gone to this adress (just for 1 adress several transactions! So this is not an advisors etc tokens). https://ethplorer.io/address/0xbb8e6d03f1640b2d89990fdcdd4e328a97007d98and than to this Exchange adress (Idex) https://ethplorer.io/address/0xa12431d0b9db640034b0cdfceef9cce161e62be4After this price started down... But wtf? Which right they have for selling tokens just after ICO? Every ICO have vesting period for developers tokens (at last half of year or more) Price was 44 cent before they started selling tokens.. and now... its going to zero, because this "developers" and bounty manager selling tokens.
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May 08, 2018, 11:33:52 PM |
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Third, Anyone is eligible for bounty program as long as he/she follow the rules. The story line is My brother used my bitcointalk account to register in the bounty program since he didn't have one.
Yeah, we hear this "brother/sister/mother/dog" story all the time. I like the way you tried to say you didn't cheat with your first two reasons, then admitted you cheated with the third. :/ Have funny to this. That why have so much project using bounty platform for make promoting at this time. I think we can change the trending for make bounty program at 2018.
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May 09, 2018, 01:38:08 AM Last edit: July 24, 2023, 01:27:59 AM by sabotag3x |
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Hello there fellas, You can include @mazzer in it as well.. What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign.. Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:
On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:
And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation. I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys.. I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either. Have a good one.
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May 09, 2018, 02:45:09 AM |
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Hello there fellas, You can include @mazzer in it as well.. What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign.. Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:
On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:
And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation. I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys.. I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either. Have a good one. Dude calm your horses down, you have been already added to the list.
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May 09, 2018, 02:45:57 AM |
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This project (Daneel) together with this bounty manager (not Sylon, I mean cryptobox) scammed investors and bounty hunters. Sylon is a honest manager I think. And everyone know him. But they (Daneel team kick out him, and hired new and started scam people. Investors - because they dumping price, and bounty, because just stealth their tokens. Look how they selling tokens One of their adress https://ethplorer.io/address/0x09d30d57b096ac4c16371cf124b67a1fb9f419c0At 26th and 28th of April (when price was highest) a lot of tokens from this adress gone to this adress (just for 1 adress several transactions! So this is not an advisors etc tokens). https://ethplorer.io/address/0xbb8e6d03f1640b2d89990fdcdd4e328a97007d98and than to this Exchange adress (Idex) https://ethplorer.io/address/0xa12431d0b9db640034b0cdfceef9cce161e62be4After this price started down... But wtf? Which right they have for selling tokens just after ICO? Every ICO have vesting period for developers tokens (at last half of year or more) Price was 44 cent before they started selling tokens.. and now... its going to zero, because this "developers" and bounty manager selling tokens. This proves nothing I am afraid
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May 09, 2018, 02:48:14 AM |
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<snip>
I tagged this user for dishonestly giving his "brother" (I don't believe that) a spot in the campaign and for the other accusations. He's clearly not being honest and should never be involved in managing a bounty or in any other high-level position in same. Looks like he'll do whatever he needs to do to siphon money out of bounties, and it isn't fair to other participants. Good call on posting this, OP. Edit: magisterr just deleted his post that I just quoted but snipped. Not sure why. I have told you the truth. I have been paid much more than that too risk myself to put my name in the bounty program. That little bugger did it wrong. It's not ethical, I understand. At the same time he did his job and got paid for it.
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May 09, 2018, 02:50:00 AM |
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First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.
I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori) Because This is his first bounty campaign. I encouraged him to do it just using my BCT link.
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May 09, 2018, 04:42:32 AM Last edit: July 24, 2023, 01:27:44 AM by sabotag3x |
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Hello there fellas, You can include @mazzer in it as well.. What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign.. Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:
On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:
And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation. I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys.. I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either. Have a good one. Dude calm your horses down, you have been already added to the list. I did not receive my tokens: https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe777f32d5c4e5066fac032f2a64bed18d2c16513Meanwhile, other translators have received it.. https://ethplorer.io/address/0x680a9a682e4a7d900fa54177543afb0451631843https://ethplorer.io/address/0x11b4b2fe83deb9484e88ee9920b2bb75129001a9https://ethplorer.io/address/0x1b67d7f7700acd6d5ad543b5fab35a7e4007b9a7https://ethplorer.io/address/0x5be07fbf4bfef358e4dbde8a66f6d917178d601fhttps://ethplorer.io/address/0x18c7a972a58b2112c1ba3eb51c6100e856a70619https://ethplorer.io/address/0x0dac4d0b46de7ea2e9c0cd16b7d21540b18ef33ahttps://ethplorer.io/address/0x6e045b05208bd7a20bdfda90bac3428be0e1cbfehttps://ethplorer.io/address/0x3ec8013fd3089482834a7e044b72c3c5d4725041https://ethplorer.io/address/0xd390ca23ffa2bf1b112d3ede5356eb41a62991e1https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe6452d03ff1e3cadfee97f9d793a6fe4fc822ea2https://ethplorer.io/address/0x15486b58ed09a5fb42334e5c79fd05f9299ea9c3https://ethplorer.io/address/0x6f11b10186d8644b15669f565a94f130e5acd640
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May 09, 2018, 05:02:03 AM |
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Hello there fellas, You can include @mazzer in it as well.. What happened: Daneel's campaign was managed by Sylon and (I don't know why) these 2 guys started to manage the campaign.. Some info on the WP was in French and than I delayed the delivery because I was waiting for a response from anyone who could fix that on the English WP.. as you can see here:
On that time Sylon was no longer managing the campaign and I sent the Portuguese WP link to @cryptoofox via PM on Jan, 30th as you can see here:
And I posted the Portuguese WP's link on the local Daneel's thread on the same date, as you can check here(the post wasn't edited as you can see): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592713.msg29271654#msg29271654So, luckily, I opened the bounty thread and checked the spreadsheet and my WP link wasn't there.. And it ocurred before the bounty distribution, I contacted @mazzer directly and on Telegram group to find out if he could add my WP on the sheet and re-count the stakes (you can do it in 3 minutes, literally).. I provided the same proofs that I'm presenting here and @mazzer said that my work wasn't on Sylon sheet and that I did not deliver the translation. I have no fuckin ideia about how Daneel team hired these guys.. I hope to see you in jail, as happened with Centra guys who didn't pay me either. Have a good one. Dude calm your horses down, you have been already added to the list. I did not receive my tokens: https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe777f32d5c4e5066fac032f2a64bed18d2c16513Meanwhile, other translators have received it.. https://ethplorer.io/address/0x680a9a682e4a7d900fa54177543afb0451631843https://ethplorer.io/address/0x11b4b2fe83deb9484e88ee9920b2bb75129001a9https://ethplorer.io/address/0x1b67d7f7700acd6d5ad543b5fab35a7e4007b9a7https://ethplorer.io/address/0x5be07fbf4bfef358e4dbde8a66f6d917178d601fhttps://ethplorer.io/address/0x18c7a972a58b2112c1ba3eb51c6100e856a70619https://ethplorer.io/address/0x0dac4d0b46de7ea2e9c0cd16b7d21540b18ef33ahttps://ethplorer.io/address/0x6e045b05208bd7a20bdfda90bac3428be0e1cbfehttps://ethplorer.io/address/0x3ec8013fd3089482834a7e044b72c3c5d4725041https://ethplorer.io/address/0xd390ca23ffa2bf1b112d3ede5356eb41a62991e1https://ethplorer.io/address/0xe6452d03ff1e3cadfee97f9d793a6fe4fc822ea2https://ethplorer.io/address/0x15486b58ed09a5fb42334e5c79fd05f9299ea9c3https://ethplorer.io/address/0x6f11b10186d8644b15669f565a94f130e5acd640Let me cross check with the final sheet and the distributor. Could you send me a DM in telegram @cryptoofox
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May 09, 2018, 10:45:35 AM |
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First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.
I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori) Because This is his first bounty campaign. I encouraged him to do it just using my BCT link. This doesn't say anything about the random username in the spreadsheet! If he used your BTC link, then why it's not in the spreadsheet!!
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May 09, 2018, 03:22:09 PM |
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First of all, If I wanted to cheat I would have used a different name and totally different bitcointalk account for that. Why would a cheater use his own bitcointalk account in order to cheat knowing the fact that he is gonna get caught anyway. That doesn't make any sense at all.
I actually think it's okay for a bounty manager to participate in his own campaign as long as it's transparent and clear. .. However, I am wondering why didn't you add your username in the spreadsheet then? What's the need of adding a random username like (bluhori) Because This is his first bounty campaign. I encouraged him to do it just using my BCT link. This doesn't say anything about the random username in the spreadsheet! If he used your BTC link, then why it's not in the spreadsheet!! Rookie mistake from him as this was his first bounty
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May 09, 2018, 07:20:10 PM |
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Gentlemen, I would like to draw your attention to the twitter table. The campaign rules for Twitter are as follows: Above 10000: 25 bets / week. I observe the following: basically those accounts that were put on 25 steaks per week do not have so many followers.
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it seems that they also took the initiative to reduce the allocation to bounty of old campaigns for personal gain.
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