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May 02, 2014, 07:50:17 PM
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From my email from an anonymous contributor:

The only thing I can add as a talking point is Martin brings up the NSA and Bush
neocons, as though the surveillance state originated with them.  Historical
documents show there was an elite ideological construct prototype of the
surveillance state in early 1900s that proponents described as the "scientific
society", widely hailed in elite intelligenstia circles that included the likes of
science fiction novelist H.G. Wells, a staunch proponent of world government and
human micromanagement who authored the draft of the UN Declaration of Universal
Human Rights with an authoritarian caveat. By the 1930s, this group formerly
transitioned into the Technocracy movement, with more 500,000 card carrying members
attending large meetings with organizers dressed in custom color gray suits driving
specially ordered matching gray GM vehicles.  Get this, a founder of
formalized Technocracy was M. King Hubbert, the geophysicist who famously calculated
US and global oil depletion rates, frequently referenced in peak oil circles.   This
brings us full circle to the current plan to change the current global economic
system into one tightly controlled centrally and operated as an "energy credit"
system.  Finally, recall that Brzezinski's book Between Two Ages; America's Role in
the Technotronic Era (1970), describes a system where every person and every
transaction and service is monitored and continuously tracked.  Brzezinski and David
Rockefeller founded the Trilaleralists who formerly seized control of the US
executive branch starting with the Carter administration (certainly, the process
itself got underway before Bush and the neocons).  The Trilateralists were not just
placed in high level political positions, they were strategically positioned in
business, finance, industry, world banking, etc.
In case you want to pass this on to Martin, here's the youtube link for a Patrick
Wood presentation.  It is the most thorough overview of Technocracy and
Trilateralists that connects ALL of the dots, including, international banking, NSA
and the surveillance state, and the methodical deep capture of economic, political,
and ecclesiastical systems (also explained in a widely cited book by the late
Senator Barry Goldwater).  Recall that Sutton mentored Wood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul5oQ3wbstQ   [If you have some downtime, this would
be well worth watching, as is the Sutton video I'm including.]
In an interview available on youtube, Sutton explains how the elite captured and
controlled all sides of every US political and social system.  He starts out by
discussing the organization of Skull and Bones and its "tap on the shoulder" style
of entry into the elite power structure.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_YWFC1HY74

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The Trilateral Commission created by David Rockefeller and Brzezinski. Anthony Sutton and Patrick Wood have documented this in great detail, but Martin Armstrong apparently refuses to review the evidence they presented. I can presume Armstrong has not watched these videos I've sent him. If he watches these, I am confident he will realize he is wrong. But apparently he doesn't don't want to review the evidence. He would rather speculate and apply a confirmation bias, because based on his blog posts he think the only possible solution is political organization. His expertise is trading and trading cycles. His modeling succeeded because he relied on extensive historic data. Whereas, on this issue of globalist control, he refuses to do the same extensive digging for the data. He bases his myopic view based on analyzing the compartmentalized actors who he thinks are the full extent of any global network.

Why is he being lazy? I just watched these videos again (had watched them long ago and forgotten them) before sending them to him. I am not being lazy. And I don't have this time to waste. I need to be programming, not doing this...

Watch these please. If he watches these in entirety, I think it is impossible with his high IQ that he will not have a personal existential philosophical crisis that will lead to great epiphanies over time and a renewal and re-growth for him (even at his advancing age).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul5oQ3wbstQ

Conspiracy PROVEN by Anthony Sutton who has the documents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_YWFC1HY74

The video above states he has proven these globalists are causing revolutions and wars. And the detailed evidence on that is as follows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3vZNSAi-QM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vftNpSXUOU8

If you do the following research (including the info above), you discover that Rockefeller et al funded the initial movement and institutionalized environmentalism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7P5cbTYXLY (Behind The Green Curtain)

http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/our-focus/our-focus/climate-environment

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/jlaksin/how-the-rockefeller-fund-killed-keystone/

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/greenpeace-confirms-rockefeller-link-as-palmer-faces-legal-action-20120321-1vj15.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUk70tfELA&index=5&list=PL47C1EE96664999BE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa05CDaN8Rs
(Maurice Strong was involved in 1972 UN conference in prior video above)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_M1V_NefnM


Add the globalists instigation of communism in Africa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWJplkgknL8


Add:

UN Agenda 21 plan is this Rockefeller global environmentalism slavery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykELwj1Ta8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGUU3QDn7W4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9OlVVPsYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHWsdimVO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3qW2XJZdSA

Even Hillary Clinton explains that the government is told what to do by the CFR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfpgl6NqF0I

Even the JFK assassination is a proven (and likely globalist) conspiracy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ-gC4p_lUE#t=159

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aknLrdjqKDY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1wuXrVPjo

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Last edit: May 06, 2014, 12:29:01 AM by AnonyMint
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I have debated with Martin Armstrong in private email (have not publicly shared all of this) and he continues to build a strawman argument that the rumors of a CIA plot in Ukraine are the cause of people in the West not rising up to support the freedom of the Ukrainian people. See the following blog article:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/03/comment-from-eastern-ukraine/

Whether or not the CIA was involved is irrelevant to the fact that it is not the responsibility of Americans to create freedom for Ukrainians. The Ukrainians need to fight for their own freedom, just as we had to fight for our own freedom. Only Communists and Socialists would argue that it is the responsibility of others to do the responsibility that others refused to do for themselves.

The Ukrainians are in this mess because they didn't arm themselves over the past decades and were complacent on Russian dominance of their economy.

Martin wants some sort of Communist fantasy solution where we will top-down design the structure of countries to design in the best solutions economically. This is so idiotic because it completely ignores the fact that economics begins grassroots and if the people of Ukraine have been so inept for the past decades, then we can't top-down fix their ineptness.

Martin has revealed that he is a Socialist pig. And I very disappointed as I thought he was a free market advocate.

Also he has not disproven that the USA and Russia are manipulating the outcome (ostensibly, but not necessarily for my argument to be valid, for globalist agenda).

Until Martin wises up, I have relegated him to "great modeler of timing, astute historian, but completely inept economist and political scientist".

It is normal that individuals can be very gifted in one area and completely inept in other areas.

Whereas, I am arguably a polymath (becoming more apparent to me lately) and am astute in a wide range of fields.


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Subject: Martin you are losing your sanity
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 3, 2014 6:20 am
To:      armstrongeconomics@gmail.com
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/02/lagrandes-imf-should-be-outlawed-the-real-terrorist-organization/

Quote from: Armstrong
The CIA conspiracy has worked well. Nobody will defend these people
because they assume they will be supporting the CIA. Meanwhile, the US has
usurped the democratic process and the people are denied the right to
honest free elections for nobody but professional politicians are allowed
near government. This is the real downside of the NSA – just allege a CIA
plot and you disarm the people. Absolutely brilliant!

I've never seen you write such complete nonsense before.

Have my emails caused you to have a mental breakdown?

Show some evidence that powers that are capable of intervening in the
Ukraine situation ares swayed not to by the an alleged CIA plot. That is
an incredulous assumption.

Simply put, none of us can do a damn thing. Do you expect us to write our
Congressman and demand the USA go defend Ukraine against Russia? Are you
crazy?

We should start a war with Russia because the Ukraine revolutionaries
miscalculated and started a revolution that they could not finish.

At least the Oathkeepers in the USA are armed and fully prepared to finish
what they start.

Europeans are for the most part a clueless bunch of Communist fucks. They
never did fight for gun rights and submitted to gun control. So thus they
can't defend their liberty. Exceptions to some small extent for example in
North Finland.

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Long Wave Cycle (a generational cycle)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594024.msg6551625#msg6551625

...the Long Wave Cycle (a generational cycle) which predicts the above effect. The youth will take over after 2032, and the kind of world they will create will be one of extreme idealism. This is FDR New Deal style of dangerous. This will launch big government on a bigger scale than we had ever seen before, i.e. "international cooperation" as code word for loss of local sovereignty. The youth will put in place the U.N. Agenda 21 with a gleam in their eye as they are trained and indoctrinated now to believe for example that man-made global climate change hoax is real and is a real problem.

Here follows the research, and I urge everyone to study this carefully...

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Continuing evidence in the debate with Armstrong about whether a global elite exist.

Passing along a comment I received, and I don't have time to verify it.

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globalist (zionist) background on Russia and Ukraine

You are so busy you may not be aware of the Holodomor, the Ukrainian famine genocide
many believe Stalin engineered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Here's something I recently stumbled on.  It's a book written by Aleksandr
Solzhenitsyn, 200 Years Together.  This book is never spoken of in the west, despite
Solzhenitsyn's status as a Nobel laureate (The Gulag Archipelago), because he
details the Russian Zionists' complicity in vast Soviet atrocities against its own
populations.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/200_Years_Together

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As Armstrong predicted that peripheral markets had peaked in 2011 and we start the global slide towards the Sovereign Debt Big Bang on Oct 2015, which I detailed in numerous posts upthread...

Indonesia is turning down. And Philippines is overheating with interest rates now starting to rise and it will turn down soon.

http://business.inquirer.net/169808/indonesian-growth-slows-in-1st-quarter
http://business.inquirer.net/169709/bsp-seen-raising-bank-reserves-anew
http://business.inquirer.net/169782/govt-rejects-bids-for-6-mo-1-yr-t-bills


All FX exchange markets topped relative to the dollar in 2008 when the debt bubble bust. Since then some tried to pull back to their highs due to $trillions injected by central banks and China's massive stimulus, but now as of 2013 all have topped and dollar getting stronger. The Euro's pattern is deceiving as it appears to be getting stronger but you see it is very weak improvement and the it really topped out in 2008 relative to the dollar.

This is exactly as predicted in this thread and by Martin Armstrong. Expect a massive dollar rally into 2015.75 and then all hell will break loose. The Euro will probably resume collapse once the IMF's suggested 10% confiscation for all EU accounts takes place. I read the implementing law is planned for this year.

http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=EUR&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0



http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=JPY&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0



http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=INR&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0



http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=PHP&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0



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Armstrong doesn't understand what is frontier now; thus his myopia on globalism

Armstrong is still exploring (attempting to refute) the contention about whether there is globalist agenda and what is/are the potential solution(s) to the enslavement of the people as fodder in geopolitical top-down control.

It amazes me that he apparently can't visualize what is obvious to me as the only potential explanation and outcome. Let me try to see if I can more convincingly elucidate the map I 'see' in my brain.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/04/complexity-in-trends/

Quote from: Armstrong
COMMENT:  Marty,

This is a European reply to the Ukraine / CIA coup etc. discussion. For me, you now hit the nail on the head for we are experiencing both: revolutions AND coups !

Yes, there is global uprising by people against their corrupt government. By the way this is happening in every country, if you ask me, just in different stages for instance in central Europe the people are only grumbling by now but they will stand up sooner or later as well.

But there are also coups where mainly Europe and the US fight against each other riding any uprising wave to bring their cronies into foreign governments. Look at Ukraine: Merkel tried to bring this boxer and supported in parallel the blond princess just that the US won this time..

I am truly sorry for the people of Ukraine seeing their people killed for nothing. But what can one win when you uprise against a corrupt president but the next is just a new crony either supported by the West -let me call this kind of coups “democratic” invasion- whereas the East is invaded military by other corrupts ?!

Now, you regret and claim that the Europeans are so diverted by conspiracy thinking that they are not willing to fight for the Ukraine people. Why don’t you see it from this angel: Every family sending a son or husband to fight as a NATO soldier in Ukraine for the people first of all fights already for the corrupt governments of the West, and, as it looks now, would only support the next corrupt crony on either side, Western and Eastern part of the Ukraine.

No, this uprise by the people country-by-country is not to win at the moment. Only once this movement is getting global and insofar coordinated by if you like the invisible hand of Adam Smith, putting all corrupt governments plus their agencies plus their military leaders under pressure all together the same time, there is a chance for us, the people to fight a successful revolution for more freedom again.

But I am afraid, it looks more like 2032 onwards – the next public wave, isn’t it ?

J

REPLY: You may be correct that the big uprising is 2032. The 2014 turning point is the beginning – not the end and by no means the peak. Yes, we have people who are getting really fed up with this corruption. This will get worse as the economy turns down. Then we have government trying to retain power. These are individual trends and that is my point. This can never be reduced to a single cause and effect. It is far more complicated than that.

Exactly! That was my prior point to Armstrong. Why should we fight for either side (Russia or West) since we only fighting for the elite and their corrupt power structure.

Now here is the very key point. Pay close attention.

If the people can't win on a local level, then it means any proposed solution will be supporting loss of local sovereignty. You simply can't amass resources collectively and avoid the corruption of the power vacuum of democracy. Understanding Mancur Olson's (in his book The Logic Of Collective Action) thesis is fundamental to understanding where we are and are headed:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics)

Thus you see the ultimate outcome of this country-by-country uprising is to turn over control to those who have the levers of control (over the power vacuum) in the wider-scale collective, e.g. the USA, EU, Russian bloc, subservient Asia bloc (China).

And you can thus see it will culminate with war and then ending war with socialist "international cooperation". I refer readers to my prior post about the Long Wave Generational Cycle, and how the youth will take control 2032ish after a widespread chaos, and they will be indoctrinated with "international cooperation" themes (from their state schools, facebook, mass media, etc) such as the man-made global warming hoax.

So the end game of all of this is reset of the global order, discrediting local sovereignty, and awarding control the wider-scale globalists who will have the youth movement in their back pocket, just as they did in the 1960s in the USA.

And so tell me there isn't a globalist agenda and it is all just random chance that such as global order outcome is inevitable?

Now is there any other possible solution? Yes there is, and that is anonymous crypto-currency to defund the globalist beast. But this won't scale fast enough to derail the beast entirely. It can displace a portion of the beast.

So what is really happening in a bigger picture perspective? I explained this is the death of passive capital. The globalist beast is moving to higher economies-of-scale, because it is being made irrelevant by the death of the Industrial Age and the rise of the Knowledge Age, see following linked explanations:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495527.msg6103426#msg6103426
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557732.msg6077596#msg6077596 (read all my posts from this one going downthread)

We have two competing yet coexistent trends. The political-industrial passive capitalists (fascists) are consolidating power because their paradigm is an economic dinosaur which is being displaced by the competing trend. The competing trend is the rise of individual knowledge and power to reach the market and produce directly from one's brain (and computer).

So on the one hand we will see a rise in consolidation of global hegemony, Orwellian technocracy, and multi-national corporate fascism and massive decline in economic production, while only the other hand we will see the 'hackers' (the broader definition meaning knowledge worker) break away in a sub-economy and we will see much chaos and rapid economic growth in this subspace.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/04/conspiracy-or-just-one-step-at-a-time/

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Yes, the CIA wanted me to build a computer for them after our model predicted the collapse of Russia That the FT broadcast in advance on its front page of the second section. True I declined. It is also true that within 6 months PEI was attacked. I have a copy of the slide presentation prepared by the lawyers for Republic National Bank that outright lied misrepresenting their illegal trading as me to hide those losses from the Japanese when I owned the accounts – not the Japanese.

Those in the Justice Department were ignorant of international currency transactions and in the criminal complaint they stated that they “have been informed by the attnorneys for Republic Bank”. The US Government did not even do the analysis. The notes were in yen which was what we owed – Japanese yen. What the dollar did was irrelevant – they were not dollar based notes. This was Safra trying to save his sale of the bank for $10 billion to HSBC. Then HSBC did its own due diligence and found the allegations were false and backed out. The allegations were all based on dollars not the currency of the note denomination – yen.

Safra then had to reduce his personal shares by $1 billion and agree to indemnify HSBC. Why? If the public got anything less, then they would have sued Republic/HSBC and the truth would come out. So Edmond took the haircut personally to prevent any lawsuit by shareholders.

I have the documents. So I know HOW this began and who did what. There was no coordinated group behind everything. It was one step at a time. Just as in Ukraine the West seizes the situation of a grassroots uprising to use it for its own benefit. This is how it always comes down – one step at a time – not some giant scheme carried out over decades. It is always the same pattern.

Martin speculates that the "Justice Department were ignorant of international currency transactions". He has no way to prove that they did not fully understand but decided to pretend they did not. This is just an example where a human is not as objective as a computer, because emotions and confirmation biases are difficult for humans to eliminate from their subjective analysis.

Any way, Armstrong has demonstrated nothing above about whether a global agenda exists or not. One can envision that to keep all the parties vested in a global agenda involves a lot of corruption and that corruption can't always be contained in predictable ways, and the system AUTONOMOUSLY adjusts to sustain the corruption (because corruption binds them together otherwise they could all be jailed). The evidence of that effect is the corrupt system put Armstrong in the slammer for 7 years on a bogus contempt of court charge.

Quote from: Armstrong
The case was steered to Judge Owen by the SEC to ensure they could control the case and moved to make sure there were no lawyers allowed even though corporations cannot be represented by a director. Nobody bothers with the law because they know it will take you years to get to the Supreme Court and the Second Circuit Court of Appeals is in the pocket of the Justice Department. So there is no possible way to obtain a fair trial in New York City. It will NEVER happen.

Goldman Sachs then hired Alan Cohen and put him directly on the board. This has never been done before. I believe because Cohen then seized all the evidence documenting the manipulation of markets to protect the other banks including files and many taped phone calls including with people at Goldman. The Princeton office was raided and Socrates was unplugged and taken to a special lab in NYC located in the World Trade Center – the old Saloman Brother’s building. They turned it on and discovered it had self-destructed. They then in writing demanded I turnover the source code or PEI would be shut down. I said go ahead, you will never get the code.

And with all the coorperation amongst a large group, amazingly Armstrong thinks the "NY Club" is isolated and not part of any larger globalist agenda. And he presents absolutely no proof to support such an incredulous position, given the volumes of evidence I have presented to show not only is there a globalist agenda, but there is actual laws and actions occurring that implement that agenda globally in every country on earth. Is Martin blinded to the Agenda 21 activities against farmers in Latin America?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Agenda+21+activities+against+farmers+in+Latin+America

Is Armstrong blind to the manipulation of Greece's economy done by Goldman Sachs, and then appointments of Goldman Sachs persons as leaders all over Europe recently.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/what-price-the-new-democracy-goldman-sachs-conquers-europe-6264091.html

Quote from: Armstrong
First Republic pleads guilty to $700 million. The the head prosecutor Richard D. Owens explains to the court on January 9th, 2002 that in reality the notes were in yen not dollars and now Republic only needs to pay $650 million but the yen remained the same. Then 30 days later, it is now $606 million. Owens handed HSBC $400 million in profits belonging to Princeton.

Amazingly, when it comes to the banks, suddenly the government lawyers understand the transactions were in yen not dollars

Duh Martin, then why did you write that assumption above.

Quote from: Armstrong
Now, this is the sequence of events. Yes, you can create a conspiracy and say Goldman, CIA, and Safra all coordinated together to accomplish this. But the more likely than not truth, it is a sequence of independent events one step at a time that cascades into a mess they never foresaw.

Then please explain why Goldman has its tentacles throughout the EU fuckfest. You even noted that the creation of the EU was designed to be flawed. Is that random? No! It was by design.

Quote from: Armstrong
This is where the conspiracy buffs go wrong. They create false images of all-powerful groups that mysteriously manipulate the world for purposes that vary between world dominance to just greed. They cannot see that these are separate groups colliding and at times fighting among each other.

Martin you understand statistics. What is the probability of that level of integration by Goldman due to random orthogonal events and greed. ROUGHLY ZERO.

I am tired of this nonsense. Armstrong is smarter than this. I don't know why he can't do some actual research and overcome his confirmation bias. Obstinance?

Quote from: Armstrong
I do not see how it is possible to have some unified secret group that everyone agrees and extended for hundreds of years. This is inconsistent with human nature.

Because there is a power vacuum of democracy and it must be filled. You should understand thermodynamics.

This vested interest binds them together, because they can't win control of that power vacuum otherwise.

This is entirely consistent with nature.

Quote from: Armstrong
Now look at Ukraine. These conspiracy theorists just have to denigrate the people and presume it is some CIA plot so nobody cares about them. The people are incidental to them and incapable of rising up on their own. They deny human nature exists yet yell there is some all-powerful group to which I am blind. To them, the American Revolution and French Revolution are propaganda and the people were never capable of rising up on their own. They not only fail to understand politics yet claim to know everything about it without ever stepping behind the curtain to witness anything.

Armstrong is conflating orthogonal issues again. I am empathizing with the plight of the Ukrainians, but there is nothing we can do to help them, because we would be merely fighting for the elite and helping the manipulation. The only way for Ukrainians to win is either to have armed themselves with a gun under every blade of grass like in the USA, or for some technological solution to come which enables them to side-step (opt-out) of the power vacuum of democracy, i.e. defund the taxation and political-industrial complex.

And those prior revolutions were also manipulated for outcomes which favored the elite. We would need to get into a deep study of history to debate that, and I don't have time right now. I do believe there was more chaos at that time, because communication and travel was slower thus the chance we see now with anonymous crypto-currency was instead at the time taking the form of distance from the powers-that-be in Europe in the case of the American Revolution.

Quote from: Armstrong
These people project nothing but speculation connecting dysfunctional groups and linking them to statements of David Rockefeller to justify as proof. This idea of a one world government would eliminate war is stupidity. But it was behind the drive to create a Federalized Europe. Nevertheless, that is not proof that some group controls the world.

Armstrong also has nothing but speculation, at least I have provided volumes of evidence.

The difference now is that global technocracy is a reality and they can track everything. You bring the idealistic youth onboard and they will create an EU style fuckfest "international cooperation" for the entire world. And Rockefeller et al will have achieved their Agenda 21 consolidation of control and power over taxation and issuance of debt.

Quote from: Armstrong
There is no political system that has ever lasted intact because there is a correction process that comes from the grass-roots that we call – REVOLUTION.

The only effectual physical revolution you will be seeing are the zombie idealistic youth for "international cooperation", after the global war and chaos from 2016 to 2024 or 2032.

This globe has been shrunk by technology. The only remaining frontier for freedom is cryptography. Armstrong has a dinosaur perspective and he needs to correct this pronto!



"Protester Paul Connor sits on the lawns of Parliament House on day 34 of his hunger strike calling for climate change action, on Dec. 10, 2009, in Canberra, Australia."

Quote from: Armstrong
Rockefeller. His net worth of $2.8 billion is not very much in the scheme of things.

Rockefeller's true networth is in the $trillions and is hidden behind NGOs, corporations, etc..

Quote from: Armstrong
I have even sat at a Washington Dinner at the table with environmentalists who thought I and a friend Dick Fox being associated with Temple University were kin to their thinking. Their agenda is to reduce population growth using the environmental issues as the weapon to hide their true motives. This is the agenda behind global warming and the argued UN Article 21. We let them talk and then my friend Dick Fox who was Chairman of Temple University and the Fox Business School is names after him finally sprung the question on them. Whose grandchild are we trying to prevent from being born? Your’s or mine?

The Democrats have been sold on this environmentalist agenda, but I guarantee they have never heard what I heard that night. Obama is not into depopulation; he is just stupid and believes in global warming blaming cars and factories for the past 120 years being capable of changing the planet long-term. Obama is using the environmental movement not to depopulate, but to raise money and tax using the same theory of cigarettes just calling it the carbon taxes. The conspiracy theorists would then link Obama to depopulation as the secret agenda rather than agreeing further tax collection

Whether Obama is stupid or not is irrelevant because he isn't the mastermind. He could be (and is likely) compartmentalized. You again speculate. The reality is the agenda is being put into action, and the youth will be indoctrinated and ready to embrace it as "international cooperation".

Quote from: Armstrong
These people remain blind to the motives behind such taxes and cannot grasp that politicians are only about money.

No politicians are about sustaining the cooperation that keeps their brethren in control of the power vacuum of democracy.

That is a fundamental myopia of Armstrong. He must correct this.

Quote from: Armstrong
These conspiracy theorists connect everything as if some single mind controls everything. They cannot point to a single thing this group has done without speculation or bold statements they were behind it.

It doesn't even matter if there is a mastermind or not, the reality is Armstrong doesn't even identify the main trend in place, which is not just taxation but rather subjugating sovereignty to the collective on a wider scale as I have explained.

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They refuse to consider what if there is nobody actually in charge? What happens when all of these conflicting self-interests collide? Historically, you get revolution. That is the only way this will be resolved.

And now finally I understand why Armstrong doesn't get it. He thinks the revolution will be physical. He hasn't realized the world has shrunk due to technology, and physical revolution can't overcome the great powers and the global technocracy. These revolutions will all be manipulated by the great powers.

The revolution and frontier is cryptography. I've been trying to tell him this for several months.

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http://blog.mpettis.com/2014/03/will-emerging-markets-come-back/#comment-22683

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From my prior comment in March, the public debt in the Philippines and emerging markets in general is less of an issue than corporate and household debt which have ballooned since 2008 as ZIRP ended up chasing higher yields abroad; whereas, in the developed countries the non-financial private sector deleveraged since 2008 while public debt increased [1].

Indonesia is turning down. And Philippines is overheating with interest rates now starting to rise and it will turn down soon.

http://business.inquirer.net/169808/indonesian-growth-slows-in-1st-quarter
http://business.inquirer.net/169709/bsp-seen-raising-bank-reserves-anew
http://business.inquirer.net/169782/govt-rejects-bids-for-6-mo-1-yr-t-bills

India exhibits the same phenomenon and nearly (150% to) doubly worse the Philippines:

http://www.businessinsider.com/indias-great-debt-transfer-2013-8

All FX exchange markets topped relative to the dollar in 2008 when the debt bubble bust:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365141.msg6566051#msg6566051

Since then some tried to pull back to their highs due to $trillions injected by central banks and China's massive stimulus, but now as of 2013 all have topped and dollar getting stronger. The Euro's pattern is deceiving as it appears to be getting stronger but you see it is very weak improvement and the it really topped out in 2008 relative to the dollar.

This is exactly as predicted in the above linked thread and by Martin Armstrong expecting a strengthening dollar as the ZIRP comes to a close with the emerging market private sector unhedged short against the dollar (both directly via external loans and indirectly as exports crash and domestic debt servicing can't be met).

The US consumer is already dying:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/07/a-significant-change-in-trend/

The global conflagrapocalypse Big Bang is imminent 2016.


[1] Debt and deleveraging: Uneven progress on the path to growth

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Subject: Bottom line is political revolution can't work any more
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, May 9, 2014 6:37 pm
To:      armstrongeconomics@gmail.com
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I sure hope Martin Armstrong wises up and realizes the politics is already
lost to the majority, which is a global majority of chattel managed by a
well-hidden global elite. They are even manipulating the outcome in
Ukraine. Proof is if the USA or EU was intent on Ukraine's independence,
they would ship guns to put under every blade of grass so individuals
could defend themselves (see Hitler quote below). Instead, the IMF sends
them loans in order to further the world governance plan of consolidation.


===================================================
The Ukraine situation is all about global currency and global governance.
In the
New American link you'll see a description of IMF loans to the Ukraine as
being a
vehicle to expand the SDR system.    Brandon Smith of Alt-Market is the
second link.
Gatekeeper coverage of side topics such as military factories is akin to red
herrings.
Memes of US vs. Russia "escalating tension" and hysterical pieces on the
new cold
war and WWIII are bait for world government, as well as the previously
discussed
goals of creating a dollar devaluation scapegoat; distractions from economic
contraction, corruption, spying, and police state activities; and more
justification
for heavily funding the military industrial complex against assorted faux
boogeymen.
 Smoke and mirrors.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/18207-imf-bailout-for-ukraine-and-a-new-world-currency

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2126-false-eastwest-paradigm-hides-the-rise-of-global-currency

> Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 06:18:29 -0400
> Subject: Putin needed East Ukraine because of 50 military factories?
>
> http://www.businessinsider.com/why-putin-needs-east-and-south-ukraine-2014-5#ixzz317OqrXDd
===================================================



Excerpts from the following posts (click to read in context).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6625901#msg6625901

"I consider my firearms to be useless against the government in anything
like our current social structure and any realistic balance of power on
the basis of armaments alone."

You have no fucking clue why our forefathers wanted the right to bear arms:

https://www.google.com/search?q=forefathers+reason+for+right+to+bear+arms

http://www.rense.com/general2/right.htm

And so how did Hitler overrun Europe as easily as a hot knife slicing
through butter:

"Tyrannical governments kill far more people than private criminals. The
Nazis conducted a massive search-and-seizure operation in 1933 to disarm
their political opponents, in 1938 to disarm the Jews, and when they
occupied Europe in 1939-41 they proclaimed the death penalty for anyone
who failed to surrender all guns within 24 hours."




https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=564097.msg6640975#msg6640975

Blah, blah, blah.

Bottom line is what I wrote upthread. The Federal goverment is now 75% of
the GDP in the USA (including regulation compliance, see my sources
upthread).

If we can't personally defend ourselves, we will end up like the UK (where
0.2% own 69% of the land) or worse perhaps like one of the countries
Hitler rolled though and put in concentration camps.

Any way, as I have admitted upthread, I think the time for physical
revolution has long since passed. The majority of the population are
chattel and deserve their fate.

That is why I work on anonymous crypto-currency for those who want to move
into a Knowledge Age economy which is unfettered by government. I discuss
this in great detail in the following thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557732.0

So I want to bow out of this discussion, because politics (e.g. tvbcof's
ad hominem attacks on Bundy to misdirect attention away from the Fed
govt's abusive growth) is such an enormous waste of breath and time. The
only things that ever make a difference are technology that enables
individual action. I point that out in the above linked thread.

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Cross-posting...

Have a feeling that the market is expecting too much from Modi. He might reduce the Corporate tax and income tax, but the treasury is almost empty after almost 10 years of UPA rule

If you review the data of my prior post, you see that India total debt is more than 200% of GDP. As the global economy collapses in 2016, where is corporate income going to come from?

GDP will shrink globally by 30% or so, thus debt-to-GDP ratios will increase.

If Modi fails due to this bad timing, then won't the populace return to a socialist "solution" out of desperation? Which will only make the downslide worse.

The problem is that 1/4 of India's population can't even eat without subsidies.

And the crooks who run the country go along with reforms for as long as debt is expanding and they can get their slice of the boom, but in a bust the crooks have to turn to socialism to drive up government spending so they can milk the public spending spigot.

The point of my prior post was the developing world had been in a phase of expanding debt due to the West's ZIRP which caused fixed income to chase higher yields in the emerging market debt.

This caused the "taipans" in each emerging market country to go along with "reforms" in order to receive higher bond ratings and get their slice of that free money.

But in 2016 the trend will have radically shifted and the "taipans" will revert to their former paradigm of milking the public spigot, because the free bond money will be running back to the dollar and the USA as rates rise there and the global economy turns to chaos.

Make sure you understand this, as it applies to all emerging markets.

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interesting thread.
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Subject: Martin stop this idiotic shit now!!
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 10, 2014 9:10 pm
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/10/what-is-yours-aint-yours/

"There is no elite private conspiracy of some dominating group. That
implies some comprehension of what is even possible. I have sat in the
room with such people and these conspiracy stories give these people WAY
TOO much credit for being intelligent. Nobody smart enough to handle the
job ever seeks such positions. Governments are run by lawyer-politicians
who think they need only decree some law that solves the problem. They
understand nothing. Why should people keep money in a bank in the UK after
Cameron makes such a statement? He is way too stupid to realize people act
in anticipation."


Martin you are so easily fooled. How is that you are so astute when it
comes to analyzing history yet so damn fucking incapable of understanding
two concepts:

1. Deception

2. Compartmentalization

I don't have time to continue explaining this you. Please pour some water
on your face or something. You are behaving as obtusely as the entities
you criticize in your writings.

Cameron knows that what he is saying is crock of shit. He is saying it
because the sheeople are stupid enough to believe it.

Secondly, the elite are the not the politicians. The politicians are
guided and manipulated, and compartmentalized to some extent.

All these individuals belong to the CFR and are aware of the globalist
goals but in such compartmentalized terms that they believe this is for
the betterment of society, i.e. Obama may even believe man-made Global
warming is true and a real threat. If true, this gives him moral standing
in his own mind.

I have already shown to the you the evidence, and the UN Agenda 21 plan
and effects are decades in the making since at least the 1972 United
Nations Conference on the Human Environment in Brazil. That doesn't happen
without coordination.

I could supply you with videos and evidence of Rockefeller funding and
attending these environmentalist movements early on back then (many of
these videos have hence disappeared from Youtube since I watched them
several years ago).

They are indoctrinating the sheeople with this shit and even our youth are
idealistic and believe they will need to enslave the world in this
ideology after the global chaos that bottoms in 2032 according to your
model.

Fuck Martin! Fuck! Wake up! You are acting like a sheep.

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The International Forecaster


 World Markets Update
 






by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
May 3, 2014
 

Switzerland and Singapore are the latest signatories to an OECD deal on sharing data
and tax information between countries that now includes 47 nations. The deal, pushed
in recent years by the G20, forces signatory nations to share a wide range of
financial information including bank balances, interest income, sales proceeds and
dividends. Ostensibly a plan to crack down on tax evasion by multinationals and the
global elite, it is actually part of that very elite's plan for a global
governmental system based on complete transparency of every individuals' economic
(and other) activities. This is of course a key stepping stone on the path to the
implementation of a truly global tax, an idea that has already been kicked around
for some years at the UN and other globalist bodies.
 
In the US specifically, we've been warning about Housing Bubble 2.0 and the
derivative black hole for some time. Now it seems we have illustrious company:
Warren Buffett. He headed his annual investors meeting for legendary Berkshire
Hathaway last weekend, and this year brought some unusually sober talk of financial
"discontinuity" that could result if the highly-leveraged derivatives market were to
unwind and fretting about the housing market. Although this comes as news to no one
who has been following the overheating property markets in Orange County, Austin,
Miami, Honolulu and elsewhere, it is just another sign that the Fed's wonderful QE
program for buying up toxic mortgage debt is merely inflating another housing
bubble. Mission accomplished?
 
Speaking of housing bubbles, China's own longstanding problem with its overheated
property market came under the spotlight once again this week as Nomura released a
report detailing how the country's housing bubble might have already burst. As the
report notes "Every property market leading indicator at the national level turned
down," and "The question is no longer 'if' or 'when' but rather 'how much' China's
property market will correct." To make matters worse, the problem may be exacerbated
by China's demographics.
 

 
The country's birth rate peaked in 1987, meaning that new household formation peaked
25 years later, in 2012. As developers, fed by easy credit and riding the wave of
new home buyers, ramp up construction, a glut of houses are going to be hitting an
increasingly shrinking market. The falling prices that will inevitably result are
likely to scare speculators out of the market, which has been estimated to be 15% of
home sales.
 
The UK is facing its own housing crisis as the OECD raised its head once again this
week, this time to chastise the British government for their "Help to Buy" scheme
that allows would-be homeowners to buy a newly built home for a 5% deposit, rather
than the traditional 20%. Not that the BoE or the Parliament need to be told this.
This week chancellor George Osborne has come under pressure by Lord Lawson, Lord
Lamont, and Alistair Darling (three former chancellors themselves), as well as the
LibDem and Labour parties for the program, with his political rivals accusing him of
stoking a property bubble to help the Conservatives' chances at the next election.
Since 2009, the percentage of high loan-to-income ratio mortgages (over 4.5) has
doubled to 8%, and house prices themselves have jumped 8.5% year-to-date. Although
the scheme is raising expectations of home prices, there have been relatively few
sales under the program, meaning there's a growing market for the homes and not many
people who are selling. This is leading to what many are warning could be a repeat
of the US' own housing crash of last decade. The Bank of England is supposedly
mulling over its own options for applying the brakes to the housing market,
including raising capital requirements on banks and building societies, but it's not
clear how effective that will be given the hot money that's floating around the
country due to the bank's own version of quantitative easing.

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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Spread the word that Armstrong is ignoring data
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sun, May 11, 2014 9:01 pm
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/11/uprising-against-corruption-is-the-global-trend-get-use-to-it/

Quote from: Armstrong
Anyone who thinks that Ukraine was just a CIA plot is honestly in serious denial and are blind to the real trend afoot. All governments are declining into corruption on a massive scale and this is reflected in their rising demands for taxation. The American Revolution was – No Taxation without Representation. That is the global trend that is re-emerging after 300 years and that is the length of our revolutionary cycle. The last time this cycle hit was the late 1700s. The only Leader from Maidan in Ukraine to stand up is anti-West and East. He stands for Ukrainian independence – not CIA or Russia manipulation.

And anyone who thinks the corruption in the world today is not aided and abetted by globalist coordination is ignoring for example the prior data I provided showing for example how Goldman Sachs organized the financial instruments that enabled Greece to hide their bad financial state from the EU before 2008, and how after 2008 former Goldman Sachs employees were installed as political leaders throughout Europe and in charge of managing the austerity programs that exacerbated the financial condition of the States which is what is driving the revolutions now.

And this myopic Armstrong is even ignoring the prior communication I sent him, wherein it is documented that the IMF is doing more of the same austerity crap designed to worsen the financial condition of Ukraine (and other States) which will foment more revolution.

And Armstrong ignores the prior communication I sent him referring him to the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman by Perkins who explains his firsthand experience as an agent of the global elite in destroying countries on purpose in order to fulfill the globalist plans for geopolitical hegemony.

And Armstrong continues to ignore the fact that both the West and Russia are playing with Ukraine as a pawn, but neither side has any thing to gain from this activity, except to bolster a globalist plan to frustrate the people of the world when revolutions fail and they must turn to an "international cooperation" NWO solution which the globalists have waiting in the wings to offer the population after this revolution cycle has run amok and ended in death, destruction, and chaos.

And Armstrong continues to ignore the murals at (and the underground bunkers built under) the Denver airport depicting the plans for the above outcome.

And Armstrong continues to ignore the well coordinated plans and actions for environmental manias (e.g. the man-made global warming hoax) in order to instill the urgency in the minds of the people for "international cooperation" which begin as early as the 1972 United Nations Convention on Human Environment in Brazil.

And he ignores the data from Anthony Sutton. And he ignores dozens (and more!) of other evidence which is too circumstantial to be random coincidence.

How can anyone continue to take MARTIN ARMSTRONG seriously, when he refuses to digest the above and the following DATA.

I URGE EVERYONE TO SPREAD THIS POST FAR AND WIDE AND SHAME ARMSTRONG. For it appears he is not a scientist (one who considers all data and falsifies all propositions), but rather an stubborn donkey or Ox.

Here are some videos of David Rockefeller to give a taste of this planned outcome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPYa5mVlYU (see facts after 7:30 min point)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIUDIzApYLE#t=673 (ignore the myopia of the interviewer, focus on Rockefeller's statements)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7da-PuTYOHo (Nick Rockefeller predicted everything happening now!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roR3sSunqpo (Rothschild's Zionism controls Obama)

(Don't forget Nick Rockefeller was governor of New York and David funded the construction of WTC)

Rockefeller funded feminism (in prior communications I documented they funded the environmental) movement:

http://rense.com/general75/how.htm

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/laurie-penny/2012/02/women-white-miller-woman-young-2

"It's interesting to note that Ford and Rockefeller and the other foundations with strong CIA connections started giving grants in the early 70s to study race and gender."

http://standyourground.com/forums/index.php?topic=3781.0

Bilderberg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZhVMRc0hzc (must watch!!!)

Video of Ron Paul admitting Bilderberg gets together to talk about how to control banking system and world's natural resources:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plo-1rLZ3Jo

Zbigniew Brzezinski:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpzJI9Yew90 (must watch!!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SSLeWnYWAI (He confirms the globalist political movement he predicted in his 1997 book)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9pDY_ny6Qo#t=184

Kissinger (and CFR head Haas) on population control and terrorism agenda:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTd7n5VPID0

More population control globalist organization:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZODE_sRMiT0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3WXcRfsrTQ (Bill Gates lying about C02)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Gi6cf-jiI (Bill Gates' population control plan via indirect introduction of birth control, etc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TyAJZVARPw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKoD-ow1YcM

http://letsrollforums.com/ted-turner-created-georgia-t22937.html?s=09163fd409c6ae125c4fe1832c88e860&

http://books.google.com/books?id=JoPdaWwIJHwC&pg=PT51&lpg=PT51&dq=ted+turner+georgia+guidestones

Let's throw in the confrontation of Larry Silverstein on WTC7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtPC0W4HII8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I


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The separatist movements are part of this same trend. This is global. Here are the rising separatist movement shown above. We are looking at the break-up of civilization driven by centralized corrupt governments everywhere.

And Armstrong still can't fathom in his stubborn, myopia, that destroying the nation-state is part of the globalist plan (thoroughly documented above and in prior communications). The globalist foment the brain-dead actions and outcome of the politicians and the sheep.

The global elite are a natural outcome of the power vacuum of democracy and widespread communication technology and the shift to the Knowledge Age are driving the consolidation of global political power.

IT IS JUST TIME, but the guy who discovered the cycle can't seem to wrap his mind around what this time is.

Quote from: Armstrong
If the CIA could really do everything people attribute to it, we should have no problem for they will prevent the collapse of Western society.

Armstrong must have flunked Logic 101 in high school. Why would a globalist elite intent on destroying the nation-state sovereignty want to rescue the current structure of Western society? Instead by design, they want to crash and burn the current structure, so that the world will turn only to an international solution to political organization.

And they are succeeding. It is going exactly according to plan.

Quote from: Armstrong
This is the REAL trend. After 2015.75, we will see capital still confused. The flight to quality will initially be to short-term paper of the USA, but that will give way as well. However, we have more than $25 trillion globally in bonds (short/long) and that is a huge reservoir of capital to shift. This idea that government debt is “quality” will give way to reality.  That means we will see tangible assets rise precisely as we see during a hyperinflation within a peripheral economy.

...

We are entering this phase. The bulk of analysts keep saying the stock market will crash and burn. The goldbugs say buy gold. The conspiracy people see some new currency emerging like bitcoin that is even less familiar to people than gold. Yet none seem to grasp that if we are headed into the worse part of this economic storm, how is some new currency going to emerge? Sorry, it is back to old-school. Getting off the grid with a diversification between movable and tangible assets.

That crypto-currency will emerge because:

* no physical assets will be safe from confiscation and taxation.

"Switzerland and Singapore are the latest signatories to an OECD deal on sharing data
and tax information between countries that now includes 47 nations"

* gold is a hoarding phenomenon where the velocity of money collapses, and even Armstrong has admitted they confiscate it at checkpoints globally.

* the globalists won't be prepared to offer the new financial system until after the destroy and discredit the nation-states, so this open a period of a decade or two where there will be no other option except crypto-currency.

* everyone will be able to generate some of this crypto-currency by turning on their computer. Thus it will have massive distribution and adoption.

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So it begins..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/10819885/David-Cameron-Taxes-will-rise-unless-we-can-raid-bank-accounts.html

They get this in place and then they will easily be able to tweek it to include everyone not only notorious tax evaders when needed.

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Armstrong isn't ignoring me. He is debating me in email and responding to my points in his latest blog posts. He and I have a very fundamental disagreement on this point.

Blabbermouth, you are ignored because your capability for comprehension and discernment is asymptotically approaching nil.


cc: Armstrong

He isn't going to change his mind.

I am writing how I feel, and being honest with myself and to my other
readers on the forum.

This issue is much more important than my relationship with Armstrong
(which I do value btw even I've never met him...if he only knew me in
person he would see how sweet and loving a person I am), but we are in a
war right now for the future of our kids.

I find don't understand how someone of his intellect could totally ignore
for example the engineered environmental and feminist movement. Is the
1972 United Nations Convention on Human Environment in Brazil, with
Rockefeller hobnobing and romping throughout Latin America to drum up
coordination just a random event? Does he not notice the video of David
Rockefeller speaking fluent Spanish.

And you don't write about this either. Thus no one mainstream (or
widespread) knows what the globalist plan is and how they plan to turn our
youth into idealistic, zombies that believe all the problems are global in
scope.

I am reaching a few thousand readers now and many. I have a guy who claims
to have a 148 IQ private message me and say I had opened his eyes.



> While I have, and do, use harsh language with people, it does not usually
> result in persuading them.

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Now, kindly stop spamming threads that I've already posted in. It's really clogging up my "show new replies to your posts" filter.

That is a hard argument to sell when 12 of your last 20 post have been in Anonymint threads. If I didn't know any better I would say you were quite interested in what he has to say.



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Subject: Re: Spread the word that Armstrong is ignoring data
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, May 13, 2014 4:11 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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> say what you want. You people are directly responsible for what is going
> on in Ukraine.
> You have a lot of blood on your hands and Russia sites your nonsense.
> You have zero respect for the lives of people and just want to champion
> your own
> nonsense. You have never been in Washington and have no clue what is
> really going on.
> For all I know, you are championing Russia for your goal is to ensure
> nobody will
> defend the people of Eastern Europe because it all just a cia plot and
> real people are incapable of rising up against corruption.
> Very sad state of affairs you put forward


Do you really believe this nonsense Martin?

If so it is very sad. I had a lot of respect for you but it evaporating.

Exactly how did I hurt the people of Ukraine? Please tell me. I am waiting.

I am a U.S. citizen, a computer programmer by profession, currently
residing in the Philippines living a simple life. How do you expect me to
have any effect whatsoever on the geopolitics going on in Ukraine?

Please tell me. You accuse me of having blood on my hands, now please tell
me how?

Isn't that remarkably socialist of you to expect that I as an individual
am responsible for other individuals on the other side of the world??

You mean I am supposed to drop everything in my life and grab my gun and
head to Ukraine?

Or you mean I am supposed to write my Congressman back in the USA pleading
for the U.S.A. to the the policeman of the world? (even though I've never
registered to vote in my entire life because I know voting is a crock of
shit)

Do you seriously believe that my government has ever used the military for
honest aims? Iraq?

And yet you hold me as an individual responsible for all that?

You condemn me to things I have no power over, just like Totalitarian
madman do.

I am afraid you've lost your mind.

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Subject: What happened to Armstrong's logic?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, May 13, 2014 4:42 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/11/rebels-declare-victory-in-eastern-ukraine-to-join-russia-thanks-to-claims-of-cia-plots-fascism/

Quote from: Armstrong
Of course the US has usurped the politicians in Ukraine
because the people cannot get rid of the career politicians. But the West
will not support Ukraine because the general conspiracy stories diminish
the people as dumb stooges all manipulated by global elitists and the
CIA.

Armstrong is claiming that Western European citizens have been persuaded
that the Ukrainian revolution is a USA plot, and thus Armstrong claims
that Europeans won't rush to the aid of Ukraine to start World War 3 with
Russia because they are tired of being pawns of the USA.

This is completely illogical because:

1. Western Europe can't TODAY defend itself against Russia without the
USA. So even if the Western Europeans wanted to go it alone, they would
still need to be pawns of the USA and they know this.

2. Western Europeans do not want war, that is one of the main reasons they
agreed to form the EU, was to prevent wars. Western Europeans since WW2
never send MASSIVE troops to aid other countries without a U.N. or U.S.A.
lead. The reason the Western Europeans aren't sending troops is because
they don't have enough, and they are pacifists. Your emphasis on CIA plot
as an excuse is a red-herring.

Quote from: Armstrong
These stories simply distract the people from seeing the
truth that everything is actually collapsing because of major structural
faults.

And what caused that structural faults? Socialism. And who was investing
in feminism and environmentalism in order to cause the people to become
distracted from core issues and instead bicker over such nonsense as "gay
rights", while Rome was burned up with debt.

And who is guiding the youth to see all future problems as global in
scope, e.g. climate change, human rights?

Well besides the documentation I provided to that Rockefeller was doing
that, you are also Martin! You are now telling us that we have a
responsibility to defend other people who didn't fight for their own gun
rights long ago.

And so instead of focusing your readers on the real fight for the minds of
our youth, you are misdirecting your readers' attention on illogical
nonsense.

And thus I am losing respect for you. I thought you were a smart man.

Quote from: Armstrong
This is the very same sequence of events that caused the
fall of Rome. I suppose the CIA did that as well using a time machine. I
presume the CIA is also behind the bankruptcy of France and the
introduction of social security and fiscal mismanagement not to mention
Obamacare.

Are you seriously claiming that Rockefeller at al was not involved with
creating a national consciousness demanding socialism (in spite of the
evidence I have shown that he was funding such) and also not involved with
pulling strings to have Obama ram a health care system most of us don't
want down our throats (in spite of evidence that his organizations have
tentacles on every major US politician)?

Are you seriously claiming similar power structures did not exist during
Rome?

And why do you build a strawman of "CIA" when you know damn well that
Rockefeller is not the CIA. The CIA is only one of the elements of the
DEEP STATE which the globalists have their tentacles in.

You have turned disingenuous in debate and thus this is now a waste of time.

Let's end this. Go on your ignorant way.

I am working on a real solution. You go on with your masturbation
non-solutions.

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Subject: Education for Armstrong on Ukraine and globalist geopolitics
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Date:    Tue, May 13, 2014 5:31 am
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http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article45455.html

Elites Want War. Front Man Obama Pushing Hard

The modus operandi of the elites is to create chaos, preferably in the
form of [profitable for them] war. Their purpose is to create major
headaches for governments and people. The next step is to “offer
solutions” to end the chaos. Without fail, the solutions always favor the
elite who gain more control as part of the cost for the rescue.

Why war? A simple diversion used to cover the total insolvency of the
entire Western banking system and the failure of all fiat currencies. The
only solution will be financial destruction, and major economic life
disruptions, especially in the ill-prepared United States. Previews of
what is in store for the United States are found in Greece, Cyprus,
Ireland, Venezuela, Argentina. The list grows.

There is only one head of state pushing for war against Russia, using
Ukraine as a pawn, and that is the elite front-man, Barack Obama. What
business does he have instigating chaos in that part of the world? None,
quite simply, yet he leads the charge.

Are the citizens of the United States urging him on? No. What about the
Europeans who transact billions of dollars in business with Russia, depend
upon Russia for 20% to 35% to supply their natural gas needs? Are
individual European states urging him on? No. Too much at risk, and
European leaders do not want to bear the consequences of yet more
sanctions that can end up hurting them more than hurting Russia.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel was in Washington this weekend, giving the
appearance of being supportive of Obama but not offing it, directly. Ms
Merkel may soon be saying auf weidersehen to her job within another year.
If the German people are foolish enough to let the head Frau help decimate
the German economy, through risking hundreds of thousands of jobs, risking
future contracts between major German corporations and Russia, then like
the docile Americans, the Germans will only have themselves to blame.

If European states are opposed to more sanctions that will ending harming
them, then Obama has no other support, as he supports an illegal coup
d’etat, the overtaking of an elected government, and blames Putin for
breaking rules. Well, there is that unelected, non-representative group,
the IMF, which is in Obama’s hypocritical corner. The IMF promised Ukraine
$17 billion in tranched loans, with one small catch in the not so fine
print: Ukraine, you must go to war against pro-Russian forces and take the
eastern part of Ukraine, or you do not get your money!

Now we have the IMF, [Rothschilds] telling one country to start a civil
war and capture the Eastern Ukraine. This is how the elites work, and the
Nobel Peace Prize recipient, Barack Obama, is their front man, leading the
charge, just like he did in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan. Egypt was a
purely political manuever. Libya has oil, and prior to the killing of
Muammar Gaddafi, that country used to own gold, which was the first order
of business to ransack, just as the Ukrainian gold was the first thing to
disappear, into greedy Western thieving hands. But always remember,
according to Western interests, gold has not useful value, at least not in
your hands. Syria is important for Russian access to ship natural gas to
Europe, and the US sees it as a threat to the petro- dollar. Afghanistan
has heroin that supports the CIA drug trade and a huge source of
profitable money laundering for the Rothschild banking cartel.

What of Ukraine? It may be just what the elite needs, once attempts to
provoke war in Syria failed. Why is attacking and capturing Eastern
Ukraine so important? It has rich farmland that produces income, unlike to
poorer Western Ukraine being exploited. Without the income from the
eastern farmland, how else will the IMF ever get repaid?

What has this to do with the price of gold and silver? Both PMs need to be
kept suppressed and not viewed as an alternative to the world’s largest
Ponzi scheme, the Rothschild Western banking system, totally corrupt and
insolvent to its core, but also totally in charge of all Western
governments. The BRICS nations have created a fissure that continues to
grow and remains the most viable threat to the West.

Expectations are that more European companies will start aligning
themselves with Russia and China. Germany remains a key player, in that
regard. Aligning herself with Obama may be what costs Merkel her job. Good
riddance.

It seemed developing events would have already had an impact on gold and
silver, but last week’s yet another manipulation “take-down” delayed the
inevitable. It should be an overt reminder to all of the control the
elites have to do whatever is necessary in order to maintain their power.
Maybe there will be more “suicided” events where mid- tier bankers do
their utmost best to defy gravity from varying heights of buildings.

[As an aside for our foreign readers, suicide is the taking of one's life.
Use of the term "suicided" implies that the official reports of suicide in
the 14 deaths, to date, may have been, shall we say, involuntarily
assisted, hence suicided.]

The French banker, a woman named Lydia, was considered to be the first
female to be “suicided,” by her attempt to defy gravity and leap to her
death. Somehow, Sumana Sultana, 44, a banker for Rupali Bank escaped
attention when she hung herself from her bedroom ceiling fan, back in
January. That brings the sudden rash of banker “suicides” to 15.

It is a function of the elites to create problems like Ukraine, and/or any
other area in which distractions can be used and keep people focusing on
the wrong issues.

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