Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity?

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: I expect all TRACEABLE assets will be effectively confiscated
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 12:02 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid/

In this respect, real estate and stocks will be the vehicle to make the transition to the new currency that comes for the big money.

The USA has contingent liabilities of $200 trillion and even if every asset in the USA was confiscated it wouldn't amount to $200 trillion. This discrepancy will worsen as Obamacare, rising taxes kick in and other measures to nationalize the wealth.

They are tracking everything including real estate and stocks. Everything will be taken as the nations try to not default on their debts. It will be a downward spiral in the abyss, because the more assets taken to pay debts, the worse the economy and thus the lower the tax revenues so the more they will have to take.

There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Please differentiate between assets of the upper middle class and  the masses
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 11:46 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid-2/

A host of emails have come in on this subject from did non-Americans have assets seized by USA after 1934 to can real estate be used to the extreme won’t they just confiscate all traceable assets.

If you are going to look at real estate to shelter assets, you should look at Texas and Florida. Typically, assets are seized because a person has been sued, lost the case and a money judgment has been entered or the government has imposed some outrageous fine. This is why O.J. Simpson ran to buy a house in Florida when he was being sued by the Goldman family. Why? They cannot be seized by anything other than the failure to pay a mortgage. If things go real bad, we will see State Rights start to emerge.

Florida and Texas provide the widest coverage of asset protection. In Texas, for example, up to 200 acres of land can be claimed under the state homestead exemption, no matter what its value might be. Additionally, there are very few personal property assets that the typical person owns that can be seized to satisfy a judgment. The easiest way to protect the largest number of assets is to reside in a state where laws offer wide protection. You might want to consider buying in Texas or Florida BEFORE any such event because moving simply to avoid paying a judgment or creditors is usually considered a fraudulent transfer of assets. The court in the state where the judgment was entered will rule the assets still “reside” in the original state and order their seizure.

There was no confiscation of foreign assets in the USA and as for confiscating ALL traceable assets that is just absurd and paranoid. There would be massive civil unrest if the government ever tried to do such a thing. The entire global infrastructure would collapse. Nations have gone to war because a country defaulted on its debts. Therefore, such an extreme would be impossible absent a communist revolution.

As long as they can target the upper class for confiscation and default on unfunded pensions on the lower class, they will proceed until they hit the wall of resistance. The French Revolution was actually 72 years in the making. It began with the bailout in 1720 of the Mississippi Bubble. France assumed the debts to prevent war for many non-French were investors. The oppression of taxes to pay for the bailout from 1720 set in motion the French Revolution, which began on the 14th of July, 1789 when armed citizens stormed and captured the Bastille prison freeing the oppressed. The 72 year cycle ended with the December 11th, 1792 trial of the King Louis XVI  who was then executed on the 21st of January 1793.

Note the plan is to isolate the upper middle class for confiscation because the masses will be dependent of the State for their health care, food stamps, rent, unemployment insurance payments, etc..

Thus advising your wealthy readers to buy real estate to get off the grid is not going to work out. They will clawback all withdrawals from European banks as an intent to avoid the bailins, which were announced publicly long ago. This is a fraudulent transfer.

There won't be any resistance because the masses will be dependent on the State and supporting the "99% against the 1%".

The State rights won't help you when the federal government and G20 asserts that the individual moved funds fraudulently to avoid bailins and taxation.

The MF Global incident was the trial balloon for clawbacks.

At best, their real estate will become illiquid and locked up in ligitation, and probably also tainted as no one will want to buy an asset which has a disputed claim against it by the feds and the G20.

I told this is nothing like the French Revolution nor the Great Depression. This is more like the fall of Rome. This is the death of stored capital and the rise of the Knowledge Age (individual brain as capital) as the new frontier.

You would much better to advise clients to buy precious metals as these are untraceable. They can liquidate these by selling on a decentralized exchange coming for crypto-currencies, with personal meetups.

Only two asset classes will survive for the wealthy:

1. precious metals (and collectables)
2. crypto-currencies

The global elite and some multi-nationals will retain assets because they are protected by being complicit with the DEEPER STATE.

Indeed they are going to create the worst global crisis ever intentionally in order to bring about mass support for a new world order.


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Subject: You recommend Bush's states?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 12:07 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Bush's state is Texas and his brother was (is?) governor of Florida.

It is clear that the masses will not agree to austerity, thus they are going to be very much in favor of stripping the rich of their assets. As this ratchets downward, the middle class segregate into those who have fallen dependent on the government and those who are now the "rich". For example in France the masses initially supported 75% tax against rich, until they realized this included themselves, next they will face economic implosion and then the mass support for "tax the rich" will rise again. This is the ratcheting process.

Who is going to resist? The boomers are too old and dependent on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.. Ditto Europe. The youth are unemployed and so the best way to employ them is to create wars which will come on schedule 2018 or so.

Also I didn't assert that JFK was killed only for his EO 1110 about silver certificates. The Vietnam war and Cuba stances could also have been reasons.

[cryptos]

There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.

Wow, you paint an awful picture.

[AnonyMint]

There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.

Wow, you paint an awful picture.

Sorry and maybe I am overstating, but did you think this egregious socialism was free ride forever?

The majority are dependent on the government and debt. When those are defaulted, the majority are unfunded. For example in the USA (and apparently Europe is worse) the government has $200 trillion in actuarial (Net Present Value) constituent liabilities, yet even if we confiscated every asset in the USA, it wouldn't reach $200 trillion.

As far as I can calculate in my mind, mathematically there are only two possibilities.

1. We default on these obligations and debts, thus the majority will be impoverished. We could then rebuild faster as capital would be freed up to invest.

2. We avoid austerity and defaults by stealing all the capital to sustain the socialism, thus impoverishing everyone over time and sliding towards a Dark Age.

My assumption is the powers that be prefer #2, because it maximizes their gains in terms of political transfer to global institutions such as the IMF and it maximizes the relative stature of the multi-nationals versus the millionaires who can be fleeced with the socialism of "99% versus the 1%" (which actually means the 1% elite and poor against the upper middle class).

For example all the environmentalism (and feminism) crap was set into motion (by Rockefeller) a long ago as the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment, so now the elite will reap the rewards as they can set these carbon taxes against the millionaires and businesses, and these turtle habitats against ranchers, etc.. Watch Texas's sovereignty become shredded.

Remember this fact. The USA States can't run deficits, but the Feds can. This will force the States to give up their sovereignty to the Feds in order to receive bailouts. In effect, the same situation exists in Europe as the member nations' bonds (other than Germany and a few other northern European nations) will not receive a bid without the ECB backing. Is Texas economically strong enough and politically unified enough to stand on its own? Maybe. Texans are pretty hardy. Yet there are big cities in Texas with government dependents. Perhaps Texans could fracture. In any case, all this chaos is not good for real estate. Titles will become uncertain. My understanding is many titles are now encumbered with uncertainty due to the disputes about paper work from the 2007 subprime fiasco.

I don't see what can resist this outcome. This is perfectly set up by the global elite to slide into the abyss. The forces that would resist this are all gone, because the masses have been converted into socialists.

Sorry but I think Armstrong is entirely missing the point of how serious this is.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Problem is there is no more "fair" compromise...until we hit rock  bottom
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 2:24 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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The key strategy of the globalists was to promote corruption, indebtedness, and complicity of all people to such a degree that no one has any wealth that was obtained fairly.

Obama articulated this when he said, "you didn't earn that without the government being there".

In other words, even if you had a legitimate business, fact is that none of you today would have the wealth you have had it not been for the debt bubble that was extracting resources from the third world impoverishing them and sustaining a debt bubble in the west.

Every customer you had in your business was funded indirectly by the socialism paradigm.

Thus as the boomers slide into poverty, they will say that everyone must share the blame equally. Their 1960s idealism and pothhead thinking hasn't faded. And they raised their youth (not the X gens like me who they abandoned) rather those born in 1990s who they spoiled with socialism, with this same idealistic mindset.

We will share all the assets of the world socialistically until we hit rock bottom, then we will reset with a new idealism how one world transparency over nations.

Welcome to 1984 in 2032. But first we have to burn all the bridges.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Armstrong still can't see this was all designed by the globalists,  not by bureaucrats
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 2:37 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/facta-july-1st-77000-firms-worldwide-turning-over-info-on-americans/

FACTA is coming July 1st. Already some 77,000 banks and foreign firms have signed up to rat-out Americans wherever they hide. While those who hate the “rich” cheer, what has been lost in this proverbial bureaucratic mindless rationalization of the real world is any understanding of how the world really functions.

Precisely like Obamacare that said everyone had to have maternity leave regardless of age, so even I lost my heathcare from Horizon Blue Cross, FACTA makes the same stupid conclusion. They assume ANYONE with a foreign account must be evading taxes. Hence, no American, including myself, can have an account overseas even when doing legitimate business. These brain-dead nasty bureaucrats know nothing of the real world and cannot even contemplate that now no foreign bank will accept an American because they must report to the USA or have their own assets confiscated in violation of international law.

Martin are you really that naive? You can't see how this all fits perfectly into the plan I have described to you in my prior communications?

How can you be so blind as to think the bureaucrats are running the circus?

FACTA was of course seeded by the global elite. The bureaucrats are either bought off in some cases or just caught up in the system in most cases, and thus do what they've been corralled to do. The global elite made this strategy and is working out very well for their goals.

[cryptos]

Sorry and maybe I am overstating, but did you think this egregious socialism was free ride forever?

The majority are dependent on the government and debt. When those are defaulted, the majority are unfunded. For example in the USA (and apparently Europe is worse) the government has $200 trillion in actuarial (Net Present Value) constituent liabilities, yet even if we confiscated every asset in the USA, it wouldn't reach $200 trillion.

As far as I can calculate in my mind, mathematically there are only two possibilities.

1. We default on these obligations and debts, thus the majority will be impoverished. We could then rebuild faster as capital would be freed up to invest.

2. We avoid austerity and defaults by stealing all the capital to sustain the socialism, thus impoverishing everyone over time and sliding towards a Dark Age.

My assumption is the powers that be prefer #2, because it maximizes their gains in terms of political transfer to global institutions such as the IMF and it maximizes the relative stature of the multi-nationals versus the millionaires who can be fleeced with the socialism of "99% versus the 1%" (which actually means the 1% elite and poor against the upper middle class).

For example all the environmentalism (and feminism) crap was set into motion (by Rockefeller) a long ago as the 1972 U.N. Convention on Human Environment, so now the elite will reap the rewards as they can set these carbon taxes against the millionaires and businesses, and these turtle habitats against ranchers, etc.. Watch Texas's sovereignty become shredded.

I don't see what can resist this outcome. This is perfectly set up by the global elite to slide into the abyss. The forces that would resist this are all gone, because the masses have been converted into socialists.

Sorry but I think Armstrong is entirely missing the point of how serious this is.

I think pretty obvious going to be #2 as made clear intent is to steal capital.  Nope, nothing can stop it from happening now.  

Since you are an ardent follower of Armstrong, I think he wrote that USD as world reserve currency would not be
replaced until ~2030, do you think that is accurate?

Welcome to 1984 in 2032. But first we have to burn all the bridges.

[AnonyMint]

Since you are an ardent follower of Armstrong, I think he wrote that USD as world reserve currency would not be
replaced until ~2030, do you think that is accurate?

He has the computer model that has been accurate over the past two decades, so I would trust his judgement more than mine on that. I don't know if he has said that definitively or just a general thrust that the dollar will be stronger going into the thick of this crisis post 2016.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Final message to Armstrong
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 9:08 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/03/the-destruction-of-the-world-economy/

The Senate subcommittee has been examining tax avoidance by multinational companies. Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), Hewlett-Packard Co. and Apple Inc. have all been the subjects of previous hearings by the panel. The 2013 investigation into Apple uncovered a subsidiary that earned $30 billion over four years with no home for tax purposes.

The subcommittee also has investigated and targeted Swiss banks such as Credit Suisse Group AG for aiding tax evasion by wealthy Americans. The results have actually been quite devastating. Now the multinationals are being hunted by everyone else as well – especially France. What is good for the USA, is now open sport for everybody else.

Martin you observe going forward how the headlines are against the multi-nationals, but the end result of legislation will be slaps on the wrist for the multi-nationals who are in good favor with the global elite and dacronian against the out-of-favor multi-nationals, individuals and small businessmen. You are misdirected by the magician's slight of hand again as usual. You naive buffoon.

The greed of governments all on its own is destroying the world economy without secret societies, clubs, or cabals. This hunt for taxes on a global scale is reversing everything we built coming out of World War II. Even the idea that a New World Order would bring peace and prevent a third world war has crumbled to dust and fallen to the ground. Not only experiments like the Euro have utterly failed

How much do you want to wager that the New World Order does not come about 2032ish as the resolution from the ashes of this globalist designed destruction of the nation-states by funding and promoting corruption, feminism, environmentalism, etc??

And you are aiding them by blaming this on the Bureaucrats instead of blaming it on the complicity between VOTING which is the power vacuum that creates the global elite. You are helping to confuse mankind so that mankind does not take the appropriate counter measures which is to seek out the next frontier in the Knowledge Age.

You even defraud your readers by telling them to avoid crypto-currencies.

This is the demise of the West. We are now watching the very destruction of society and everything we thought life was about because these people need money to hold the reigns of power. No private group will survive right down to the bankers. This is checkmate as it has always been throughout history – them against us. Don’t worry – they always lose. However, sometimes they have taken us with them into the abyss we call a Dark Age – the ultimate Mad Max Event.

Wrong! We are complicit, if you are referring the masses and people like you who believe in VOTING and political reform.

The only few of us are actually opposed to the trend are those of us who are opting out of the entire system by becoming UNTRACEABLE and we refuse to VOTE nor be involved in any masturbation called reform.

Let the motherfucker burn to the ground. It is just time.

The people are all corrupted and selfish. They reaped what they sowed. The borrower is slave to the lender. Read your Proverbs.

[AnonyMint]

Adios forum. Thanks.

[AnonyMint]

One final salvo. These articles presented worse data than I had seen before.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article45802.html

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article45746.html

[wenben]

The source of the energy in the plant isn't the "stuff" it takes from the soil, but the Sun.
Anyway, until now, all attempts to extract biodiesel from corn and other plants has been a transfer (with some loss) from energy spent growing the plant (mainly, electricity, based on natural gas) to biodiesel.

Growing plant required resources such as soil and fertilizer, which compete with the food we consume.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: most people are sheep
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 16, 2014 12:28 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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I have come to the conclusion that we are not "saving the world". There is
no hope of saving most of the people from themselves. Most people are dumb
sheep and will gravitate to the failures of collectivism just as I wrote
in my seminal article as linked from the OP of the Economic Devastation
thread wherein I wrote in the linked article that organism in a petri dish
are unable to see their plight objectively and thus will continue until
they consume all their resources.

Even Armstrong has come to this conclusion as you read his latest blog
articles over the past week.

We are saving ourselves. Life is a competition. We have to get out there
and create the new frontier for those who are smart enough to avail of it.

Armstrong never did get the point that only frontiers provide an escape
valve from Dark Ages. He still thinks the only escape valve is reform. He
is egregiously mistaken.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/15/the-hunt-for-money/

"I do this in hopes that if we can all spread the word,
when we do crash and burn, there will be a choice. We either go into the
darkness and end up total mindless drones and government becomes the
complete authoritarian state, or we move into the light of freedom as they
did in the 1700s. "

Never do we reform collectivism. We only compete with it by creating a new
frontier. Even Armstrong has admitted the OPPORTUNITIES are no longer
frontiers but rather increasing the collectivism:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/15/migration-discrimination-language/

"There is a difference socially between those who came
BEFORE the New Deal and after. There were no grand government programs
previously. True, the welfare state today can provide the added incentive
to come, but this is still in the category of OPPORTUNITY.

...

I often point out that BEFORE the New Deal, what made America work was
DISCRIMINATION. Of course people immediately assume I am being racist. The
truth is quite different. Whoever was the LAST off the boat was ALWAYS
discriminated against. That was actually good, because ABSENT the social
programs, what took place was to find a decent paying job it forced
whatever group to speak English. "

Also Armstrong never did realize that the Jews are appointed by the Bible
to control the sheep (they can lend to gentiles). This power vacuum of
sheep has to be filled, it is a basic law of entropy and Thermodynamics.
As the Bible predicts, the wealth is being concentrated and this will
eventually all end up on the mountain in Israel.

You see the fiat masters and their sheep are dying. Only the frontier of
crypto-currencies and virtual high tech work will prosper.

So it is time to say goodbye to most of the world. Let them go into their
Mad Max. It can't be stopped.

Asia will rise after 2020, but as slaves to multi-nationals and
regional/world government control by the oligarchs. Welcome to 1984.
Remember (north east) Asian babies don't have the gag reflex, they are
obedient slaves.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Self-reliance-- the brake on a Mad Max outcome
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, June 25, 2014 1:05 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/24/will-society-ever-wake-up/

There is hope that we can wake before we go to the Dark Age stage – the Mad Max Event. If there were not, I would be building a bunker on an island someplace. This all depends upon society and where it resides at that moment. We have more danger in places like France where people are so reliant upon government which has laid waste to the private sector exactly as communism did in Russia.

The difference between China and Russia is important. In China, they did not try to change the thinking of society, they merely punished those who disagreed openly. Under Stalin, he persecuted people for having a brain. Therefore, China’s rebound has been spectacular because people were NOT reliant upon government. The more a society relies upon government the greater the damage to its economic potential. It requires a control-alt-delete reboot.

It is similar today where we have smart phones. We now push a button to call a friend. Lose the phone and most of us have no idea what phone number to call any more. We become dependent upon the technology. The same is true with government. In Ukraine, the people simply did not trust government and have had an independent streak to always maintain some self-reliance.

The future depends upon that quality. It will vary from region to region even within the same nation. For example, stop the flow of food into NYC and they begin to starve after 10 days. You would see a mass exodus raiding the homes in the suburbs. The city people rely upon someone producing the food 100% and have no land to even grow a tomato. At least in the suburb, they can plant something assuming it is not robbed by another.

Let's not conflate self-reliance with sheep waking up. It is true that self-reliance varies geographically and culturally. It is true that the coming implosion of the sovereign debt bubble will reduce the world to it's respective self-reliant foundations.

Although it is true that the developing world is more self-reliant, this self-reliance sits at a much lower level of subsistence than the level that their economies have been inflated to with massive corporate debt. In short, a significant chunk of their current GDP is reliant on corporate debt. China's corporate debt is the highest in the world.

After the oligarchy collapses the global debt into self-reliance of Armstrong's private wave in 2032, thus placing themselves in the driver's seat to issue new debt at the birth of the public wave. The youth are fully indoctrinated with the idealism of a new public wave society as I had detailed in prior communications wherein I shared the generational wave research.

The oligarchy are moving us into a very 666-like controlled Technocracy for this coming public wave.

In short, the self-reliance of the world is non-existent in the West (for at least 50 - 95% of the population depending on the nation) and it is a just a few hairs above subsistence level in the developing world. Some in the developing world have gained technological skills, but they lack the capital to build it out themselves and they entirely lack the innovative capital to build it in the autonomous, decentralized Knowledge Age that replaces this dying Industrial Age, i.e. chopping off the top of the poppy seeds in China (not allowing anyone to stand up) has destroyed ingenuity and individualism, which is essential for innovation in the individualized Knowledge Age coming.

So here is what will happen. The world will collapse into the peak of the private wave to something a few hairs above subsistence level. The oligarchy will fill the need to reorganize the world on a global standard to restart debt anew at the birth of the public wave 2032.

The hackers will be driving the fledgling Knowledge Age during this interim time, which will be where the real foundational growth in the global economy derives.

Only frontiers have saved humanity. The collective would destroy itself otherwise.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: When the liquidity dam breaks, we're all damned
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, June 25, 2014 5:46 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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The liquidity that exists today is largely a lack of panic and belief in the power of the system to always provide liquidity. Once that confidence dam breaks, all hell is going to break loose. It is going to lay waste to the global economic as ferocious accelerated waterfall crash pace, once it breaks.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/25/feds-exit-tax-on-bonds-confirms-liquidity-crisis/

Don't forget the velocity of money has been plummeting. See the chart I posted on that a few weeks ago.

Armstrong is correct that the problem "is government" (specifically the
power vacuum) but he is incorrect to believe this can be changed.

There is only one change that has ever worked longer-term in the history
of the world. And that is for oppressed people to escape to a new frontier
wherein the government is small. This works until those people become
numerous and society becomes well-established, then the government grows
large again and the ill effects emerge.

Unfortunately now on earth, there is no more place for physical frontier,
because technology has shrunk the world. Even if you try to go hide in the
mountains between Argentina and Chile, there are roaming rangers who will
hunt you down. The U.S.A. even has satellites which can read the VIN
number plate on the dashboard of your car and identify your face from
outer space!

In the past at least we had physical cash (or gold/silver) to transact
with anonymously (out of view of the government) during oppressive times,
but now commerce is mostly electronic so tangible cash would mean a
cataclysmic implosion of the velocity-of-money (because it can't be
exchanged electronically), which is precisely what has been happening
since the blowup of Long-Term Capital Management in 1998.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article45235.html



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantity_theory_of_money

M × V = P × Q ≈ nominal GDP


So now we come full circle to the only frontier remaining on earth which
has any chance of providing a solution to the current global cataclysm
ahead.

I described in great detail how the world is moving away from labor to a
knowledge age. One must read the following linked threads and understand
that labor could be financed and top-down controlled (c.f. the Theory of
the Firm), but knowledge is different especially now we have the means to
self-publish (internet) and self-produce (3D printers) our knowledge. At
the thread below I successfully debated Eric Raymond:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495527.msg6065144#msg6065144

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557732.msg6078778#msg6078778


The only frontier remaining is for us to move to a knowledge economy where
most commerce is hidden from the government (the power vacuum of
democracy) with anonymous crypto-currency.

The old labor-intensive industrial world is dying. Those bankster elite
are consolidating their economies-of-scale now with their geopolitical war
games and austerity programs driving revolutions, because IT IS JUST TIME.
What time is it? It is the end of their paradigm.

Finance will die. Because knowledge production no longer needs stored
capital.

This is a epochal shift and Armstrong is blinded. He can only see the old
world and old world non-solutions and plays right into the hand of the
elite's consolidation of power.

Whereas, the other side of the new technology is the birth of the
Knowledge Age and the death of the Industrial Age.

Is Martin too old to have an epiphany?

Well I don't have more time to convince him. I have real work to do on
doing my role to make this Knowledge Age come to fruition as fast as
possible.

What is the solution for Ukraine? It is the same as the solution for
people all over the world. Learn to do knowledge work in your home. Hide
away from the chaos outside. Let the elite consolidate their power.
Meanwhile adopt anonymous crypto-currency and profit from your knowledge
work. Soon the old world will be bankrupted as we race forward into
prosperity.

Epochal shift. Can Martin open his eyes to what TIME IT IS?

[wenben]

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: When the liquidity dam breaks, we're all damned
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, June 25, 2014 5:46 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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The liquidity that exists today is largely a lack of panic and belief in the power of the system to always provide liquidity. Once that confidence dam breaks, all hell is going to break loose. It is going to lay waste to the global economic as ferocious accelerated waterfall crash pace, once it breaks.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/25/feds-exit-tax-on-bonds-confirms-liquidity-crisis/

Don't forget the velocity of money has been plummeting. See the chart I posted on that a few weeks ago.

As soon as there is panic in the market, they will provide liquidity.

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: When the liquidity dam breaks, we're all damned
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, June 25, 2014 5:46 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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The liquidity that exists today is largely a lack of panic and belief in the power of the system to always provide liquidity. Once that confidence dam breaks, all hell is going to break loose. It is going to lay waste to the global economic as ferocious accelerated waterfall crash pace, once it breaks.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/25/feds-exit-tax-on-bonds-confirms-liquidity-crisis/

Don't forget the velocity of money has been plummeting. See the chart I posted on that a few weeks ago.

As soon as there is panic in the market, they will provide liquidity.

Incorrect. The Fed can't control long-term rates, the market does. The central banks only succeed when they can fool the public into not stampeding from long bonds, by giving the impression that they are more powerful than they really are.

The contagion will be too great by 2016.

The Fed already realizes this, which is why it is proposing an exit tax on long bonds. But any tax less than 100% will not stop a stampede, because some money pulled out is better than losing all.

Eventually they will simply lock the door and nationalize long bonds, which is a default. Then the stampede globally will raze the global economy.

Those idiots who think they will hyperinflate, have no understanding at all. Never in the history of the world has the global reserve currency been hyperinflated. Governments hang on to power, which they can't do if they hyperinflate. Instead they confiscate. Only entirely broken nations hyperinflate, e.g. Zimbabwe, Argentina, Weimar (Communist revolutionary!) Germany.


You will be praying they would hyperinflate instead of the horrible confiscation shit that is actually coming...

[AnonyMint]

Read the last post on the prior page as I made it a few minutes before posting this one...

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Subject: As Lindsey Williams predicted years ago,  the Middle East will erupted into Muslim war
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, June 26, 2014 1:22 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article46148.html

Pastor Lindsey Williams is friends with retired high level oil industry executives who alerted him years ago to the plans of the global elite to create an Arab Spring to destabilize the Middle East in order to drive all marginal oil supply back to the USA in order to reorganize their global hegemony.

You can clearly see the USA aided and abetted this outcome on purpose starting with destabilizing Iraq, even now not supporting the remaining strong regimes in the region (even refusing to do drone airstrikes) in order to aid it to fall into chaos.

The global elite clearly are implementing their plan to create chaos in order to drive the people of the world into begging for security and order, which can only be provided by the global elite (and their control over all the major sources of production and their capture of the fiat central banking system and thus government).

This is all exactly as portrayed on the strange murals at the Denver airport, where the world is first plunged into chaos, death, and war, before the idealistic youth will join hands in 2032 to usher in a new world order of peace and 666 control.

Meanwhile Martin Armstrong pisses away our time and effort ranting about the irrelevant pawns known as bureaucrats.

Armstrong is a computer programmer. If was really serious, he would be working with us to create the technological solutions.

I wonder if he is working for the global elite? How can he be so blinded to what is going on?

Sheesh!

This is very serious!

[AnonyMint]

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Subject: Armstrong's amazing economics correlation prediction models
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, July 4, 2014 9:03 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Kudos to Martin Armstrong (the former $1+ trillion hedge fund manager of the Japanese Postal fund-- largest fund ever) on getting back focused on his expert computerized A.I. models (and stop wasting time trying to convince socialist citizens to reform themselves or blaming everything on bureaucrats and not also on the socialist citizens)...

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/07/03/then-now-always-the-same/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/07/02/when-will-the-monetary-system-crack/

This previous 8.6 year wave that peaked in 2007.15 was just the beginning with the realization of the Sovereign Debt Crisis. The current wave that peaks in 2015.75 should start the debt crisis with more government being forced into insolvency. This is what the IMF proposal is all about and the Fed looking to impose an exit tax on the most liquid market in the world – US debt. The next wave 2024.35 will be the pulling apart of the world monetary system and the peak of this wave in 2032.95 is most likely where the tangible assets rise as a store of value in a world of uncertainty with respect to the medium of exchange.

Regarding the comparison of today to the peak and decline of the Athens empire, I note from the following chronological timeline:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_ancient_Greece

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/democracy/qt/121009AthensTimeline.htm

So 408 B.C. for Athens should correlate to 2032 A.D. for us now. Interestingly we see that in 433-432 B.C. the Greek empire coalition fails and infighting begins. That was 24-25 years before the peak in 408 (count backwards in B.C. time) so that would correspond to 2007-8 now which is exactly when the first stage of the sovereign debt crisis exploded with Sub-Prime defaults in the USA.

Also note that infighting was due to economic decline and a fight for available resources, which is similar now to how teachers' unions in the USA are saying to raise taxes to pay their salaries and retirement plans. Raising taxes will further implode economic activity and collapse the economy. The problem is we spent more than we had, and now the defaults and decline are unavoidable.

We can see on the timeline that up until 426-425, Athens grew stronger than the peripheral regions and was defeating them. Then by 414 (which will correspond to our 2016), Athens (which corresponds to our USA) started to fall weaker than the periphery in battle.

The USA is clearly coming stronger right now as capital is fleeing the rest of the world (periphery) and into USA stocks and real estate as a safe haven. But 2016 will mark the peak of the USA.

Then you can see that by 416-415 (our 2024), Athens (the USA!) falls to massacres and total chaos.

And then by 408 (our 2032), Athens falls over a cliff economically and socially until hitting rock bottom in 404.

Then after 404, the public wave starts where even Socrates is executed by the idealistic youth government that takes over. Don't forget the generational wave research I shared previously which predicts this nasty Orwellian control aspect of the public wave which follows 2032:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594024.msg6551625#msg6551625

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg6551755#msg6551755


So here is what we can expect. USA will grow stronger until 2016, then it will decline until finally total chaos by 2024. There could be a lot of war before 2024, probably after 2018 or so. Between 2024 and 2032 will be total chaos as the world fights capitulation, until there is finally total capitulation in 2032 and then we crash into a global economic bottom by 2036.

So 2016 is the beginning of the slide into the abyss. And it will get worse until 2036. Twenty years of worsening suffering.

But during that time, high technology (e.g. robotics, 3d printing, crypto-currency) will prosper and many in high tech will become very rich. Remember the Oxford study in 2013 predicted 47% of all existing jobs will be replaced by computer automation with the 20 years to 2032-33.

This period will be very unfamiliar to most people as the world is shifting from socialism to autonomous, decentralized sovereign high tech individuals.

The Knowledge Age is replacing the Industrial Age:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0

Collectivized society will decline and shrink economically into a bottom in 2036, while the Knowledge Age will grow all during this period.

This is my final communication.


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Subject: Question: timing on the bottom for BRICs, NICs?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Fri, July 4, 2014 1:17 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Okay Western civilization falls off the capitulation cliff 2032 and
bottoms 2036 as the Public Wave begins.

When do the BRICs, NICs countries bottom?

How far back do they collapse? 1992 level? 1999 level? 2007 level?

[stompix]

This is my final communication.

Bitcoiners  , let us rejoice on this!

Nobody believed that this will end before 2020 but it seems like we will get rid of him in 2014.