ABitInterested (OP)
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May 18, 2014, 08:00:25 PM |
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...and the reason for not giving the addy of the pr0nz site is?
I'll give you an easy one. It is a community driven site and at least one huge community would be pissed if they knew anyone made a dime on it. Thus, no public url.
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fluffypony
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May 18, 2014, 08:04:26 PM |
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...and the reason for not giving the addy of the pr0nz site is?
He's replied with his reason already, which ties back in to the captive audience comment I made, but another one that occurred to me is that it's too easily duplicated from a basic functionality perspective. Just because a copy-cat won't easily be successful doesn't mean they should invite a string of copy-cats. If a string of copy-cats sprung up they'd be swimming up-stream against it, and I respect their decision to stay mum on it. If there ARE copy-cats, they should spring up as a natural part of a business growing, and not because one of the "I want to have my own pr0n sites!" crowd here ripped them off.
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NotLambchop
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May 18, 2014, 08:25:41 PM |
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...and the reason for not giving the addy of the pr0nz site is?
He's replied with his reason already, which ties back in to the captive audience comment I made, but another one that occurred to me is that it's too easily duplicated from a basic functionality perspective. Just because a copy-cat won't easily be successful doesn't mean they should invite a string of copy-cats. If a string of copy-cats sprung up they'd be swimming up-stream against it, and I respect their decision to stay mum on it. If there ARE copy-cats, they should spring up as a natural part of a business growing, and not because one of the "I want to have my own pr0n sites!" crowd here ripped them off. I'm still a bit confused. Does one have to sign an NDA before rubbing one off? Or is ABitInterested's clientele fapping too rabidly to think of stealing his secrit game-changing_and_disruptive_technology? In other words, what makes us any more likely to steal than teh pr0nz patrons? *Just curious about the logic behind this, don't particularly care if scamming.
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fluffypony
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May 18, 2014, 08:29:09 PM |
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I'm still a bit confused. Does one have to sign an NDA before rubbing one off? Or is ABitInterested's clientele fapping too rabidly to think of stealing his unique_and_disruptive_technology? In other words, what makes us any more likely to steal than teh pr0nz patrons?
*Just curious about the logic behind this, don't particularly care if scamming.
No no, you're misunderstanding. Copy-cats will and should come, but they should come as a natural order of business (eg. someone who uses the site thinks they can do better) not by being invited in (some idiot on btctalk thinks "thats making money, I should totally just do that instead of coming up with an original idea"). Regardless, the validity of his point outweighs mine: the captive audience in question would get all pissy if they find out they're making him money:-P
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NotLambchop
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May 18, 2014, 08:57:37 PM |
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I'm still a bit confused. Does one have to sign an NDA before rubbing one off? Or is ABitInterested's clientele fapping too rabidly to think of stealing his unique_and_disruptive_technology? In other words, what makes us any more likely to steal than teh pr0nz patrons?
*Just curious about the logic behind this, don't particularly care if scamming.
No no, you're misunderstanding. Copy-cats will and should come, but they should come as a natural order of business (eg. someone who uses the site thinks they can do better) not by being invited in (some idiot on btctalk thinks "thats making money, I should totally just do that instead of coming up with an original idea"). Regardless, the validity of his point outweighs mine: the captive audience in question would get all pissy if they find out they're making him money:-P Don't mean to drag this out, but: Are you saying that his site is so unique that thousands of users, over the time span of more than a year, didn't copy the idea a thousand times over if it had merit? And users here don't even care about the name of the guy they send their coin to, or wonder whether the pr0nsite they "invest in" even exists -- forget stealing ideas. If after more than a year on clearnet the site's still a mystery to anyone who cares, I can only assume no one ever visits it.
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fluffypony
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May 18, 2014, 09:08:46 PM |
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Don't mean to drag this out, but: Are you saying that his site is so unique that thousands of users, over the time span of more than a year, didn't copy the idea a thousand times over if there was any value to the special snowflake bit? Users here don't even care about the name of the guy they send their coin to, or wonder whether the pr0nsite they "invest in" even exists -- forget stealing ideas.
If after more than a year on clearnet the site's still a mystery, I can only assume no one ever visits it.
As you and I are aware there are already an additional two (incompetent at first glance) operators seeking to do some magical camwh0ring sites for the-makings-of-the-moneys. Let us assume that, at a minimum, they would be interested in this and would possibly try to capitalise on the market. Now let's assume that our captive audience are all from one source, let's say it's a site that is made for and targets the people on the Fluffy Pony Forums (filled with lovers of fluffy ponies, of course). If the operator reveals his site here there is the consequence (already alluded to by him) in that the members of the Fluffy Pony Forums will be aghast with cries of "how dare he!" and "he's making money off of me? Unbelievable!" However, the consequence I am referring to is that our dear aforementioned incompetent operators will try duplicate the site (not entirely trivial, but not overly complex) and then will spam the Fluffy Pony Forums and be all like "ohaaaai guize, plz to come look at much bigger better largest best superior pr0n site with fluffy ponies here!" which will cause even more consternation in the hypothetical forum community. If a competitor were to develop and eat their lunch, it had best do so naturally as a course of a competent operator rising up in that space rather than a bunch of idiots targeting a specific community and trying to repeat a pattern "because they herd it wus profitibil". To reiterate: I'm only speaking from my observations - again, the operator's reasoning supersedes my observations in this matter.
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NotLambchop
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May 18, 2014, 09:28:42 PM |
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...(filled with lovers of fluffy ponies, of course)... These cloppers are totally ignorant that someone is making money from pony pr0nz? And these same horsebuckers care that said money is being made? Why? Anyhow, I'm pretty happy with the backstory, not going to drag this out. *What is this, one of those aggregator/redirect/scraper sites?
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ABitInterested (OP)
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May 18, 2014, 09:54:08 PM |
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I can only assume no one ever visits it.
You can assume that if you want but you would be wrong. Copying this site would take all of a few hours. Copying this site and getting users and making money isn't so easy. Most still wouldn't be able to figure it out even with all of the information but they'd damn sure have a better chance. So many people have tried to make money in porn, almost all of them have failed. If you go back and look at stats from last year compared to this you will find that I actually get more traffic now but make less money. Why is that? Because the new traffic is from standard sources and it fucking sucks. I lost 10% or so of my base traffic and increased traffic from some sources like Google by large percentages. All that new traffic isn't worth the 10% that was lost. Anyhow, this offer was funded months ago, worrying about the url at this point is a meaningless endeavor.
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NotLambchop
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May 18, 2014, 10:59:06 PM Last edit: May 18, 2014, 11:43:26 PM by NotLambchop |
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^ Not worried -- I have no money with you. My interest in this is purely... let's say academic.
With traveling displays of oddities and macabre medical curiosities getting tragically rare, this thread is an oasis of freakishness. Here, humanity's unabashedly grotesque preen themselves just for us, their admiring public. With neither the audience nor the objects of their fascination feeling looked down upon or judged for their respective ...proclivities.
owait... is *this* it? I'm your "captive audience..." How are you monetizing this thread?!? Never mind, I don't want you to share your secret and have to close up shop.
Carry on everyone, as you were...
EDIT: Lol, how was I so blind? I finally get it, things finally make sense! I KNOW how you're doing this. You cater to the sub/maso needs of certain "investors," their cravings for continuous humiliation and surprise buttsecs. *They* are the visitors of the mysterious "site," *this* is the site, *they* would be upset if they learned how the operation works, *they* monetize this thread with their "investings"!!1! Everything falls into place.
...now how do old washing machines figure into this?
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fluffypony
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May 19, 2014, 08:07:29 AM |
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Anyhow, this offer was funded months ago, worrying about the url at this point is a meaningless endeavor.
I'd like to reiterate this point: ABitInterested isn't looking for funding for this site any longer, it was funded months ago and he has been consistently paying dividends. The whole point of me being told about it was to speak to the accusations someone made about this being a long con. I have verified that, on the face of it and on the balance of probabilities, it is not and the site in question both exists and is making money. Fin.
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May 19, 2014, 06:45:13 PM |
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I own 1500 shares; looking to sell up to 500 if anyone is interested. These shares have not achieved 100% ROI, so they are still eligible for the 100% payout.
For the record, I am very satisfied with ABI and this company; I simply need some capital for other projects.
Price is 1.5mBTC / share, please PM for more information or offers. Minimum purchase of 100 shares.
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May 20, 2014, 09:31:03 AM |
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I echo twentyseventy's offer, but I will undercut him at 1.4 mBTC.
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ABitInterested (OP)
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May 20, 2014, 08:58:14 PM Last edit: May 20, 2014, 09:16:11 PM by ABitInterested |
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Still waiting on this weeks payment to hit the bank. On that note, I am going to convert this entire site to revshare in the interest of long term profit. Since this will have an effect on short term profit while the revshare spending builds up, I have put aside 500 units of [ApplianceStore] with both daily and monthly payments which will be divided among XXXProfit participants. This excluded the 22,000 set aside as part of a trade / purchase agreement so it covers 17,850 shares. You can calculate your interest based on that number. Read about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612258.0Starting tomorrow you will start receiving a percentage of management fees (paid daily) and monthly profit (paid monthly) in addition to your XXXProfit distributions. This is a private agreement, not actual transfer of interest. I may set aside more units in the future after evaluating the effect on revenue and profit with all new users going to revshare. This will be adjusted as needed until current interest holders are receiving approximately the same (or more) return as they have over the last couple of months from this offer alone. Once revshare income is equal to or more than the amount received by XXXProfit participants then this temporary agreement will end. If you have any questions please PM me. Thank you.
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NotLambchop
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May 21, 2014, 12:43:55 PM |
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... I have put aside 500 units of [ApplianceStore] with both daily and monthly payments which will be divided among XXXProfit participants.... "Come for the porn, stay for the laundry" "Two girls, one washing_machine" <==meme potential.
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ABitInterested (OP)
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May 21, 2014, 07:49:30 PM |
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Payouts will be made this evening when things slow down a bit.
Thanks
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ABitInterested (OP)
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May 21, 2014, 10:10:09 PM Last edit: June 05, 2014, 07:55:45 PM by ABitInterested |
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XXXProfit Reports
May 17th 2014
Shares Issued: 40,000 @ .001 BTC Each
Profit This Period $820.42
Profit Share This Period After Server Bill ($200) $620.42
Earnings Per Share This Period $0.0155
ROI This Period (Two Weeks) 3.14% based on current exchange rate of $0.493 per share.
This has been paid. Daily payments from XXXProfit holdings of 500 shares of [ApplianceStore] start today. "Today" ends at 2:00 AM CST so payments may be made in the morning. Edit: Dividend payments from the additional holdings will be combined with regular payments due since sending daily will cause a lot of dust transactions. Thanks
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GT3000
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May 22, 2014, 12:15:23 AM |
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Just to be clear, the XXXProfit dividends have been disbursed and the 500 shares (worth of dividends) in SouthernApp will be disbursed in the morning? Or will they be bundled together and disbursed in the morning?
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ABitInterested (OP)
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May 22, 2014, 12:36:46 AM |
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XxxProfit dividends have been paid. The first day from the other ends at 2am paid sometime after that.
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GT3000
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May 22, 2014, 12:43:01 AM |
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Thank you, sir. You rock.
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ABitInterested (OP)
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May 23, 2014, 05:15:00 AM Last edit: June 05, 2014, 07:54:24 PM by ABitInterested |
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Because of size dividends from the new deal will be sent every 15 days with standard payments.
Thanks
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