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December 15, 2013, 03:26:23 PM
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Hi guys,
my wallet just got hacked. I still don't understand how, but since they where newly minted coins, the hacker paid 3.40 BTC fees to take out 3.81 BTC out of my wallet :/

The destination wallet was: 1LUJr2Sq2ECpernwZBngwnuzguiHpUXWyD

Is there any way I can at least get these transaction fees back?

How should I proceed about this in general? Do you think it's a good idea to send a micropayment to this wallet with a message saying these are stolen coins?

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December 15, 2013, 03:40:33 PM
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No you can't get the transaction fees back.

If someone really hacked your account I'm sure they would have taken all the money except for a minimum transaction fee of 0.001 BTC I think. Is it possible you made a mistake in some way with a transaction?
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December 15, 2013, 03:44:49 PM
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No they took all the money, but since it was newly minted coins, they paid very high fees for it, 3.40 BTC of fees not 0.0001 BTC.

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December 15, 2013, 03:50:35 PM
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Why would anyone pay a huge transaction fee to hack an account? A miner?  Wink
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December 15, 2013, 03:52:42 PM
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Thats quite a strange decision they made. If they had access anyway then why didn't they wait until the fees came down and make a lot more money. Very weird.
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December 15, 2013, 03:56:33 PM
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I had more accounts hacked, although this was the main one. I guess since they took from the others they understood that I would see it happened and they change the security settings for this account.

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December 15, 2013, 04:26:46 PM
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The transaction fee was 0.0008, balamce on that address is 3.8088038 BTC.

Where do you store your wallet?

Was that on a mining pool account?

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December 15, 2013, 05:04:47 PM
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the hacker paid 3.40 BTC fees to take out 3.81 BTC out of my wallet

Where do you get this idea from? Nowhere in this transaction do I see 3.40 BTC for fees.
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December 15, 2013, 05:11:02 PM
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But it's what it says in Multibit. I took a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/njj7qxeqgaatlqd/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-15%20at%2017.08.06.png

I used Multibit wallet.

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December 15, 2013, 05:33:50 PM
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But it's what it says in Multibit. I took a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/njj7qxeqgaatlqd/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-15%20at%2017.08.06.png

I used Multibit wallet.

https://blockchain.info/address/1LUJr2Sq2ECpernwZBngwnuzguiHpUXWyD

Fees:- 0.0008, which, if memory serves, is a couple of bucks to steal a couple of grand.

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December 15, 2013, 05:39:05 PM
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That makes a lot more sense. You have my sincere condolences, not a nice thing to happen at all!
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December 15, 2013, 05:59:41 PM
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Thanks it's kind of a shitty situation since I was keeping this money to pay the faculty fees.

It was my fault tough, I should have used something with a two factor authentication :/ I think it's best if I keep my BTC in a blockchain.info wallet from now on, or something similar if you are able to suggest a good alternative.


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December 15, 2013, 06:05:09 PM
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I currently keep mine in a blockchain.info wallet as it was recommended to me a while back. I would certainly be interested to hear if there is something more desirable though.
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December 15, 2013, 06:07:19 PM
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I currently keep mine in a blockchain.info wallet as it was recommended to me a while back. I would certainly be interested to hear if there is something more desirable though.

The QT wallet.  If you must use a lightweight, try electrum.  I think electrum is secure IMO (correct me if I am wrong) but you have to know how to help yourself to the terminal in it. 

Do you even mine?
http://altoidnerd.com 
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December 15, 2013, 06:08:39 PM
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I currently keep mine in a blockchain.info wallet as it was recommended to me a while back. I would certainly be interested to hear if there is something more desirable though.

The QT wallet
What makes this a better option in your opinion? Not questioning your decision but I would like a bit more information though Smiley
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December 15, 2013, 06:12:10 PM
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I currently keep mine in a blockchain.info wallet as it was recommended to me a while back. I would certainly be interested to hear if there is something more desirable though.

The QT wallet
What makes this a better option in your opinion? Not questioning your decision but I would like a bit more information though Smiley

I tend to use the QT wallet because it is the wallet type that is used for every other coin as well.  If you learn to use the QT wallet and its features for backing up your coins, you will understand how to back up any altcoin you may obtain.  

Also the QT wallet references a copy of the blockchain that is stored on your hard disk.  It is not connecting to a server to access the blockchain.  Regardless of the details of the argument, connecting to a server cannot be more secure than simply having the blockchain on your disk.  

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December 15, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
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Why would anyone pay a huge transaction fee to hack an account? A miner?  Wink

Are you saying that one can decide who gets a transaction fee?  Doesn't it go to whichever miner happens to solve the block?  And isn't that based on "luck"?  Meaning, there's no way to tell which miner will get the fees.
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December 15, 2013, 06:39:17 PM
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Thanks a lot for the clear explanation Altoidnerd, it all makes sense to me. So is QT has a serious advantage if using other altcoins and even if using bitcoin alone it still has advantages to using it. Going to look into this a bit more Smiley

Thanks again!
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December 15, 2013, 06:47:33 PM
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if your funds were stolen from multibit it has nothing to do with multibit.
It means your computer is compromised. Using qt OR blockchain.info
on the same computer will make you lose more money.
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December 15, 2013, 06:54:46 PM
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if your funds were stolen from multibit it has nothing to do with multibit.
It means your computer is compromised. Using qt OR blockchain.info
on the same computer will make you lose more money.


But my computer was not even on.

What if the hacker had access to the wallet backup and the password? It wouldn't need my computer that way, right?

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