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I used to think this world has a lot of people. We have only 7.6 billions on planet earth. But we have a lot of money, 72,000 billions worth of money, we have a lot of data, petabyte is 1,000,000 billions byte? I don’t know what happened to my brain, I just can’t get excited over the number 7.6 billions, I think it is too small. And what is more terrifying is we are not getting more human in the next xx years, we are going to get a lot more money and more data in the next xx years. I don’t think it look healthy at all, what is the purpose of high growth when our population isn’t growing high?
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I think you are mixing up a few things. Jusdt because the magnitude of numbers is different doesn‘t mean there’s a problem. There are various calculations on how many people earth can feed, and we are beyond a certain limit - if every peson would live like in a western country. It only works because so many people around the globe live in poverty.
But wealth and a number like xxxx worth in money doesnnot mean anything at all. money is virtual. Real wealth, like freedome of speech, food, housing can be expressed in those numbers, but is the actual wealth.
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I think you are mixing up a few things. Jusdt because the magnitude of numbers is different doesn‘t mean there’s a problem. There are various calculations on how many people earth can feed, and we are beyond a certain limit - if every peson would live like in a western country. It only works because so many people around the globe live in poverty.
But wealth and a number like xxxx worth in money doesnnot mean anything at all. money is virtual. Real wealth, like freedome of speech, food, housing can be expressed in those numbers, but is the actual wealth.
I dunno what can I used to compare the number, may be I can use number of fishes inside the world ocean? But I dunno how many fishes are there, but I believe it must have more than a few billions fishes inside it, some predict it to be 3.5 trillions fishes inside the sea, that will be more than enough to feed all the people in this world, harvesting fish from the sea would be another story, but we will soon turning into vegan because of food crisis. But property sound like a real issues, people aren’t afford to buy house, may be we have not enough house, but that’s may not have to be the reason to low population. Freedom of speech, I think it is about how much we can speak, I think we can speak as much as we can, I like to speak to my wife all the time I dunno if I have not enough of it, may be because we have too few people to talk to it will be then a problem. What should be a fair number to be consider overpopulation? I think when a small area of land filled with enough people it become overpopulation, it definitely not going to happen as we have a lot of empty land, but we may have not enough people to fill all the land. I was raised in a small town in some Asia country, it has more than enough resource for everything, when I grown up I moved to town, and I can tell there is overpopulation, that’s when I thought this world has to much people, until I got the number of total world population, I was shock it is not what I thought it should be, I expected it to be more.
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Well I cannot argue with your feelings But just because there are trillions of fish in he ocean, doesnt mean theres enought to eat for trillions of people! You cannot just compare any number with another number. Heck, there are even different infinities, like the amount of all even integer numbers is infinite, but it is less then the amount of all real numbers, which is in fact infinite too! Aslo just because there is a land where no people live, doesnt mean people could even live there. Btw, with free speech I meant, the possibility to talk freely about what you think, even if its towars your government. In many countries this is not common and you can get arrested, when you critize the president/leader or whatever.
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May 12, 2018, 11:04:33 PM |
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I used to think this world has a lot of people. We have only 7.6 billions on planet earth. But we have a lot of money, 72,000 billions worth of money, we have a lot of data, petabyte is 1,000,000 billions byte? I don’t know what happened to my brain, I just can’t get excited over the number 7.6 billions, I think it is too small. And what is more terrifying is we are not getting more human in the next xx years, we are going to get a lot more money and more data in the next xx years. I don’t think it look healthy at all, what is the purpose of high growth when our population isn’t growing high?
It’s actually not really that small with the way that people are currently giving birth I am sure that the world would be very crowded in about 50 years. And Thanos would be using the infinity gauntlet very soon.
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I don’t think it look healthy at all, what is the purpose of high growth when our population isn’t growing high?
The purpose is that there's more wealth per person than there used to be, thus increasing the wealth and quality of life of each individual person. What you're suggesting boils down to "There isn't enough poverty in the world! We must increase the world population to fix this!" which is a despicable idea and you ought to be punched in the face just for thinking it.
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The number of population does not directly relate to the amount of welath created. You are forgetting about the resources needed to creat actual wealth. Resources are limited and some soin will be depleted on earth. What then?
In fact I think we should redistribute wealth to the poorer countries in the long run, so they can get up to speed with the western countries. This will result in less wars, less poverty, more wealth for everyone.
To make this happen though, we have to change the way we think. Egoism and greed habe to be replaced by solidarity and the will to make everyones lives better. You should read marx!
He foretold the current situations. capitalism will destroy itself and a real communism will replace it. Not the way we had in he ussr or china. But more like in startrek. Gene roddenberry had a very clear and concrete vision on how such a world would look like!
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I think the population of the world is okay. It's not small.
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So the total amount of fiat cash available is around $10,000 per person? ($72 trillion / 7.5 billion). I would say that it is normal. But there is wide disparity between the countries. In the developed nations, this will be close to $100,000 per head, while in the third world this figure will be closer to $1,000 per individual.
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I think the population of the world is okay. It's not small. Gow can it be "okay"? OK in a way it could be less, or more? Don't forget, the population numbers are rising. Is this okay too?
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I used to think this world has a lot of people. We have only 7.6 billions on planet earth. But we have a lot of money, 72,000 billions worth of money, we have a lot of data, petabyte is 1,000,000 billions byte? I don’t know what happened to my brain, I just can’t get excited over the number 7.6 billions, I think it is too small. And what is more terrifying is we are not getting more human in the next xx years, we are going to get a lot more money and more data in the next xx years. I don’t think it look healthy at all, what is the purpose of high growth when our population isn’t growing high?
Oh, wow, you must be kidding. Planet Earth is not only about humankind, there are many species disappearing each day due to the overpopulation. Humans and their economy mean nothing in comparison with the balance of the planet, which is dangerously damaged, once more, due to overpopulation. Money is a human invention, and, even when earth can give all the humans food, what happens with the other species?? This is called anthropocentrism, man.
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The surface of the earth has about 126,041,600,000 acres on it. Of this, about 36,806,400,000 acres are land, and... ... about 89,237,760,000 are water. Lets give every person on earth 10 acres of land for his very own. This means that there is room for about 3,680,640,000 people on the land. That's over 3 and a half billion. People are very ingenious. They can figure out many ways to make many levels for people to live on. We do this already. They are called highrise apartments. We can easily support multiples of the above 3.5+ billion. In addition, there are such things as subterranean floors. We have these already. They are called basements. We can easily support many more multiples of what we have listed above already. People are very ingenious. They are figuring out ways to live on the surface of the ocean - https://www.seasteading.org/. Once this becomes completely perfected, we have room for countless billions more people to live on, above and below the surface of the oceans, while harvesting an abundance of ocean-grown food. There won't be even a hint of population problem for 500 years or more into the future. Current population problems are government greed problems.
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May 15, 2018, 06:17:01 PM |
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It may be a small amount of number when comparing to other things but if you think of it, a lot of specialists are saying that our world is overpopulated and it is just starting.
Datas will be always way more than the population since we are also safe keeping the datas of the past. And our work datas and personal and public datas will always be included in that occupying more data. Don't compare data with population since there is a lot of multiple data in one person meaning most of that datas are the same.
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I used to think this world has a lot of people. We have only 7.6 billions on planet earth. But we have a lot of money, 72,000 billions worth of money, we have a lot of data, petabyte is 1,000,000 billions byte? I don’t know what happened to my brain, I just can’t get excited over the number 7.6 billions, I think it is too small. And what is more terrifying is we are not getting more human in the next xx years, we are going to get a lot more money and more data in the next xx years. I don’t think it look healthy at all, what is the purpose of high growth when our population isn’t growing high?
I believe if we manage to make more people then we can have more money and more bytes of data which can contain more coins which means more = prosperity. So 7.6 billions times 10 equals 10 times more profit from the coin which allows us to get more bytes eventually. I f we look at the world today 1,000,000billion byte not that much
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I don't think we should worry about Earth's population being too small before we can comfortably support everyone that's already here, and we're still a ways away from doing that. Can you elaborate on how you think more data and more money will negatively effect us in the future? Do you think there won't be enough people to manage it all?
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Statistics indicate that most people would rather use these less populated places for a remote vacation while continuing to live in populated countries. Aside from a few countries like the Vatican
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May 15, 2018, 08:48:31 PM |
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What's your IQ OP? Just because you don't think that's a lot of people doesn't make it so.
I remember when we were in the 5 billions and then in the year 2000 it hit 6 billion. Now we'll pushing 8. Unless someone is very young, like 24 and under, they won't realize how fast 15 years go by.
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As far as I know, it is worse for our world if the population grows. That is because the problem of environmental pollution is growing with the population. I've also heard that there is a theory called the 'golden billion' or something like that (sorry, I can't remember the name of it correctly). In this theory, it says that the world can't have more than a billion people.
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May 15, 2018, 10:22:40 PM |
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Such a bizarre post, relating the population to the amount of money and concluding that there should be more people because there is more money. Aside from the fact that I don't know where you got these figures from, it is a strange way of looking at it. Surely if the number of people increases at a lower rate when compared to the amount of money, then it means (ignoring the disparities of wealth throughout the world - which I realise is an important distinction) that the average person's wealth is growing, and therefore a positive. Poverty worldwide has been decreasing for a long time now, although there is still a long way to go. This is an interesting article on the decline on world poverty https://singularityhub.com/2018/01/02/will-the-world-ever-be-free-of-extreme-poverty/
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i don't think the population is small compared to the land mass
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