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[suchmoon]

Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys.  .

Where are your 200-line essays for each of those three cases?

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[digaran]

Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys.  .

I'm about to sell my phone for money.

Sell your phone and never come back, at least that way you will finally do something positive for this forum

Have some dignity man/woman, you are posting on this forum to get a few pennies. have your own mind and don't be an idiot falling to these traps of mine.

[HCP]

.... if I have to resolve the issue only with you after you have tagged me, you could dictate whatever terms you wish, that is wrong and that is abuse of power.

You do realise there is no "If", right? Trust is completely unmoderated and the ONLY person who is able to modify or remove a Trust rating, is the person who left the Trust rating. So, your ONLY option is to resolve the issue with whomever tagged you.

Now, while they potentially could dictate unreasonable terms for getting a tag removed (like paying them $50 or reporting a certain number of spam posts )... and yes, THAT would be wrong... One would hope that any completely unreasonable or unethical terms would result in that person quickly being dumped from DT. (provided adequate proof of the demands was provided etc.)

In any case, I see that you have reconsidered your "service" and are now offering campaign management instead. Best of luck to you.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Why should I discuss the tag with abusers? they are the ones abusing, they are the ones who should be judged, they are judging people wrongfully and nobody is judging their actions, if I have to resolve the issue only with you after you have tagged me, you could dictate whatever terms you wish, that is wrong and that is abuse of power.

This has been pointed out to you multiple times, but it seems that it needs repeating again - trust isn't moderated.

DT2 members are not infrequently removed, added and replaced by DT1 members editing their trust lists. Just because you don't agree with their decisions doesn't make it abuse.

[jankeman]

You have been tagged for trolling mods, DT members and trusted members here

I can tell you right now, it was not worth arguing about your service, can guarantee that no one would use your service.

I suggest that you apologize to the people that you "called out" and solve this problem without getting tagged by even more DT members.

Once this is sorted, I will gladly remove the tag

[digaran]

You have been tagged for trolling mods, DT members and trusted members here

I can tell you right now, it was not worth arguing about your service, can guarantee that no one would use your service.

I suggest that you apologize to the people that you "called out" and solve this problem without getting tagged by even more DT members.

Once this is sorted, I will gladly remove the tag

Once what is sorted? you are like others suggesting me to bend over to DT members wills. I refuse to bend over. apologize for what? I want to spend my time and defend people if they are willing to compensate me for my time. I wont allow anybody to dictate their terms on my business. they are jealous. they think that if I value my time and expect for compensation, I'm a scammer. they are wrong.

Read the OP, I have clear terms, there is no scam attempt, I'm not asking cheaters to pay me and then spend their money and say that I couldn't convince DT members and that's it. I haven't even tried for once to defend anybody. DT members are trolling me with their DT power, they have tagged me and now they are asking me to defend myself, are you blind and can't you see that they are the ones trolling me and harassing me?

They don't deserve DT status and should be removed, tell me that you don't see them trolling me? forum rules should be applied for everybody equally, I'm not a scammer and I have been here for more than 2 years.

If I say that I want to defend people, and if a DT member is tagging me and asking me to show my skills in defending myself, that is trolling and harassing. but looks like forum administration has a double standard dealing with real trolls, DT members are holding me down with their power by trolling me and nobody is stopping them.

[suchmoon]

Read the OP, I have clear terms, there is no scam attempt, I'm not asking cheaters to pay me and then spend their money and say that I couldn't convince DT members and that's it. I haven't even tried for once to defend anybody. DT members are trolling me with their DT power, they have tagged me and now they are asking me to defend myself, are you blind and can't you see that they are the ones trolling me and harassing me?

Yet you listed the original dispute with marlboroza as an example of your "work" and you list your current three "abuse" treads in your second post. Make up your mind.

I for one never asked you to defend yourself and clearly stated so. So you're lying right there.

[digaran]

Why should I discuss the tag with abusers? they are the ones abusing, they are the ones who should be judged, they are judging people wrongfully and nobody is judging their actions, if I have to resolve the issue only with you after you have tagged me, you could dictate whatever terms you wish, that is wrong and that is abuse of power.

This has been pointed out to you multiple times, but it seems that it needs repeating again - trust isn't moderated.

DT2 members are not infrequently removed, added and replaced by DT1 members editing their trust lists. Just because you don't agree with their decisions doesn't make it abuse.

Why should I be called a scammer by default? show me one example of actual scam. if trust is not moderated then what happens to my reputation if I have spoken against DT members and they have tagged me? if I speak against you and you tag me, that is abuse. you don't deserve to hold any power over other people. I'm alone in this, and I will be alone apparently because all of you are busy with your jobs, posting with your paid signatures and bashing anybody who dares to speak against you. forum administration also doesn't care about me if I don't have money. all I have is my honesty and I'm glad that I have been tasked to show the people the real standard of dealing with people here. you either suck and bend over, or you have no place here. I refuse to bend over. now tag me for it, I dare you. I dare you to tag me for it. I refuse to bend over for anybody.

[digaran]

Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys.  .

Where are your 200-line essays for each of those three cases?

@ suchmoon, this is your lie.

[jankeman]

You have been tagged for trolling mods, DT members and trusted members here

I can tell you right now, it was not worth arguing about your service, can guarantee that no one would use your service.

I suggest that you apologize to the people that you "called out" and solve this problem without getting tagged by even more DT members.

Once this is sorted, I will gladly remove the tag

Once what is sorted? you are like others suggesting me to bend over to DT members wills. I refuse to bend over. apologize for what? I want to spend my time and defend people if they are willing to compensate me for my time. I wont allow anybody to dictate their terms on my business. they are jealous. they think that if I value my time and expect for compensation, I'm a scammer. they are wrong.

Read the OP, I have clear terms, there is no scam attempt, I'm not asking cheaters to pay me and then spend their money and say that I couldn't convince DT members and that's it. I haven't even tried for once to defend anybody. DT members are trolling me with their DT power, they have tagged me and now they are asking me to defend myself, are you blind and can't you see that they are the ones trolling me and harassing me?

They don't deserve DT status and should be removed, tell me that you don't see them trolling me? forum rules should be applied for everybody equally, I'm not a scammer and I have been here for more than 2 years.

If I say that I want to defend people, and if a DT member is tagging me and asking me to show my skills in defending myself, that is trolling and harassing. but looks like forum administration has a double standard dealing with real trolls, DT members are holding me down with their power by trolling me and nobody is stopping them.

You don't even show a real vouch/trial of your service, you "defended" yourself and used it like it worked. You are accusing the mods for abusing their power, which is just absurd.

Eighter you grow up, or shut this thread down

[digaran]

You don't even show a real vouch/trial of your service, you "defended" yourself and used it like it worked. You are accusing the mods for abusing their power, which is just absurd.

Eighter you grow up, or shut this thread down

Because this is the start. shut this down why? because you said so? I don't think so. they can read that thread as a reference for my ability to present a case for the public to read. that's not a vouch, that is simply a reference to see if I can actually gather evidence/information. you should read the OP of that topic and tell me what you think instead of telling me to close my thread and bend over.

[suchmoon]

Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys.  .

Where are your 200-line essays for each of those three cases?

@ suchmoon, this is your lie.

It's a question based on your own OP and the second post. Which part of it is a lie?

EDIT 4: money could stay in escrow until I spend at least 3 days and write at least 200 lines as a draft for defending my clients. after which the escrow should release the funds to me.

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BTW why are all three numbered "1" - are you planning multiple cases against each of us?

[digaran]

Open for business people. read the second post. hire me now before I run out of money I'm begging you guys.  .

Where are your 200-line essays for each of those three cases?

@ suchmoon, this is your lie.

It's a question based on your own OP and the second post. Which part of it is a lie?

EDIT 4: money could stay in escrow until I spend at least 3 days and write at least 200 lines as a draft for defending my clients. after which the escrow should release the funds to me.

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BTW why are all three numbered "1" - are you planning multiple cases against each of us?

That is trolling. you are trolling me by saying that. you are making fun of me in my serious business. all I want is a fair system based on true justice and not personal use of DT power.

[suchmoon]

That is trolling. you are trolling me by saying that. you are making fun of me in my serious business. all I want is a fair system based on true justice and not personal use of DT power.

It doesn't look like a serious business if you're promising to do something and not doing it even in your own reference cases.

[digaran]

That is trolling. you are trolling me by saying that. you are making fun of me in my serious business. all I want is a fair system based on true justice and not personal use of DT power.

It doesn't look like a serious business if you're promising to do something and not doing it even in your own reference cases.

Again, this is trolling.

[o_e_l_e_o]

It doesn't look like a serious business if you're promising to do something and not doing it even in your own reference cases.

Again, this is trolling.

It doesn't look good on you if you try to just write off valid criticism as "trolling". Just as no one is going to hire a financial advisor who is bankrupt, no one is going to hire a red tag removal service who can't even remove their own red tags.

[eddie13]

no one is going to hire a red tag removal service who can't even remove their own red tags.

His first self vouch was pretty much a joke but if he somehow manages to restore himself from here it will be quite impressive..

[digaran]

It doesn't look like a serious business if you're promising to do something and not doing it even in your own reference cases.

Again, this is trolling.

It doesn't look good on you if you try to just write off valid criticism as "trolling". Just as no one is going to hire a financial advisor who is bankrupt, no one is going to hire a red tag removal service who can't even remove their own red tags.

This is bullying. why would DT members keep tagging me after I have offered to help people in removing their tags? because they are bullies.

[HCP]

Why should I be called a scammer by default? show me one example of actual scam.

Again, you seem to be on the "Red trust = scammer" train of thought.

Red Trust simply means that "Person X does NOT trust Person Y for #reasons"... it could be that Person X thinks that Person Y is a scammer, it could also mean that Person X has previously known Person Y to tell half truths and/or lie, offer dubious services, heavily edit posts repeatedly, show unstable behaviour, act irrationally and/or other "non-scam" behaviour that makes Person X consider Person Y "untrustworthy".


Additionally, a scam does not actually NEED to have "happened" for it to be labelled as a scam.

If a user was to post a thread titled "[ShitCoin Doubler] Guaranteed 100% ROI in just 24 hours for any Altcoin!", offering said service... and NOBODY actually sent any coins... do you think that the user who posted it should be tagged? or should the thread and the user go "untouched" until such time as some newbie sends coins and then complains?

If it looks like a duck... and it walks like a duck... and it quacks like a duck... it's probably a duck!

This is bullying. why would DT members keep tagging me after I have offered to help people in removing their tags? because they are bullies.

No... as they stated in the trust feedback... it was because you offered a service you could not actually provide. You called your service "Red Tag Removal", implying you could get Red Tags removed... when, in actual fact, you have no such power to remove red tags.

Had you originally set up your service as "hire me to present your case for red tag removal, success NOT guaranteed"... you might have got some raised eyebrows, and most likely ridiculed, but I doubt you would have been tagged for it.

Just my 0.00000002 btc as a casual observer of the recent happenings.

[iillaa]

i honestly think  that diagram was  a simple guy that  built his account to hero member and was enjoying his time  in the bitcoin talk forum  as his favorite social media website and  then  he screwed up in some point  ( i dont  seem to really understand whats  the case )  and  now  he is just upset about  his red trust  and  that what any other simple man will feel  ( i my self will hate to have a red trust )  so  he is starting this  thread  simply to defend him self and try to make  who tagged him get screwed up ,  am saying that because if he was not painted red  and  other ppl were  and they reached to him  for help i honesty think that he will not care  and  no one will care   since  in our  mind  we think  red = scammer which  is  right  in most cases .

and  just from reading your topic  ( before you turn it to a free service )  i will think that you turned to a scammer since you are a red painted account  that mean you dont care and you are asking  for 0.02 btc = 167.85 $  with no refund  for a simple 200 words  in less than 2 hours  with no result  and you ask the victim to red tag you ( since you dont care ) . and the fact that a paid service  is in a self moderated topic  is  scammy btw  .