Former CIA chief: Snowden should be “hanged by the neck until dead”

[AnonyMint]

Former CIA director James Woolsey responded to the suggestion of amnesty even more strongly, saying in a Fox News interview that Snowden should be hanged.

I suppose this aggressive tyrant is eager for cryptocurrencies to have $trillions market cap and for the $billion assassination bounties to begin.

Who is making a list of these tyrants?

[Kokomoka]

Snowdon has given his liberty up in an altruistic way to increase the liberty of all of us. It is bigger than nationalities and loyalties. I don't care what this CIA chief said, if you undermine the CIA should you be killed? They are not Gods, they are not our masters.

"Better dead than red" was a common American slogan. The idea that is worth risking your life to be free from state control. This CIA chief is going against everything that America stands for.

[AnonyMint]

This CIA chief is going against everything that America stands for.

America never stood for anything, please grow up from the fantasies you were taught as a child. American the Beautiful is just a fscking song, not a reality.

Grow some balls. There is only one way to deal with tyrants.

P.S. I am (regrettably) a US citizen.

[Kokomoka]

This CIA chief is going against everything that America stands for.

America never stood for anything, please grow up from the fantasies you were taught as a child. American the Beautiful is just a fscking song, not a reality.

Grow some balls. There is only one way to deal with tyrants.

P.S. I am (regrettably) as US citizen.

I'm not American but I still recognize the American declaration of independence, the bill of rights and the constitution as among the most amazing documents ever written down. To me, this is what American stands for. The primacy of the individual over the state. Sadly, America seems to becoming more and more tyrannical by the day.

Can individual liberty exist in an age of superpowers?

[AnonyMint]

You did not read the link I gave you. You must understand those documents do nothing to eliminate the power vacuum.

Try again to read it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365141.msg4159215#msg4159215

[Kokomoka]

I have read the thread you directed me towards but it hasn't changed my opinion. Thanks anyway.

[AnonyMint]

I have read the thread you directed me towards but it hasn't changed my opinion. Thanks anyway.

Your opinion meaning you believe beautiful documents matter when they don't. You fail to understand the post I linked you to. The power vacuum exists. And beautiful constitutional documents and the good will of society are irrelevant.

[Ekaros]

BTW, Is CIA chief really that bad with executions, I mean hanging if proberly done should instantly kill the subject. So it's not really a suffocation trick that requires time.

[Spendulus]

BTW, Is CIA chief really that bad with executions, I mean hanging if proberly done should instantly kill the subject. So it's not really a suffocation trick that requires time.

Not instantly kill, it would be 10-20 seconds.  Instant would be if something like a shock wave moved faster than neural signal propagation.  But I think the CIA chief was alluding to a painful death, yes. 

Snowden is not the problem if he brings the solution.

Snowden is not the problem if he evidenced the problem of lax security at National Stoopids America.

[Spendulus]

You did not read the link I gave you. You must understand those documents do nothing to eliminate the power vacuum.

Try again to read it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365141.msg4159215#msg4159215

I don't know about all that but I do like the phrase...

"bouts of megadeath Failure"...

[xkeyscore89]

BTW, Is CIA chief really that bad with executions, I mean hanging if proberly done should instantly kill the subject. So it's not really a suffocation trick that requires time.

Not instantly kill, it would be 10-20 seconds.  Instant would be if something like a shock wave moved faster than neural signal propagation.  But I think the CIA chief was alluding to a painful death, yes. 

Snowden is not the problem if he brings the solution.

Snowden is not the problem if he evidenced the problem of lax security at National Stoopids America.

A textbook hanging will snap the neck so that the spinal cord is severed, immediately stopping the heart and lungs and rendering the subject clinically dead within 10 seconds but unconscious the second his spinal cord is severed.  If done properly, there is no pain.

[hilariousandco]

BTW, Is CIA chief really that bad with executions, I mean hanging if proberly done should instantly kill the subject. So it's not really a suffocation trick that requires time.

Not instantly kill, it would be 10-20 seconds.  Instant would be if something like a shock wave moved faster than neural signal propagation.  But I think the CIA chief was alluding to a painful death, yes. 

Snowden is not the problem if he brings the solution.

Snowden is not the problem if he evidenced the problem of lax security at National Stoopids America.

A textbook hanging will snap the neck so that the spinal cord is severed, immediately stopping the heart and lungs and rendering the subject clinically dead within 10 seconds but unconscious the second his spinal cord is severed.  If done properly, there is no pain.

Or actual decapitation if the person is heavy enough or rope long enough. There's a formula out there to prevent accidental decapitation, but it's not always successful.

[Spendulus]

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A textbook hanging will snap the neck so that the spinal cord is severed, immediately stopping the heart and lungs and rendering the subject clinically dead within 10 seconds but unconscious the second his spinal cord is severed.  If done properly, there is no pain.

But not an NSA hanging.

[yatsey87]

BTW, Is CIA chief really that bad with executions, I mean hanging if proberly done should instantly kill the subject. So it's not really a suffocation trick that requires time.

Not instantly kill, it would be 10-20 seconds.  Instant would be if something like a shock wave moved faster than neural signal propagation.  But I think the CIA chief was alluding to a painful death, yes. 

Snowden is not the problem if he brings the solution.

Snowden is not the problem if he evidenced the problem of lax security at National Stoopids America.

A textbook hanging will snap the neck so that the spinal cord is severed, immediately stopping the heart and lungs and rendering the subject clinically dead within 10 seconds but unconscious the second his spinal cord is severed.  If done properly, there is no pain.

Or actual decapitation if the person is heavy enough or rope long enough. There's a formula out there to prevent accidental decapitation, but it's not always successful.

That formula is explained in this BBC horizon doc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQTHqg_8_UA

I recommend it. It's about trying to find a truely painless procedure for capital punishment.

[hilariousandco]

BTW, Is CIA chief really that bad with executions, I mean hanging if proberly done should instantly kill the subject. So it's not really a suffocation trick that requires time.

Not instantly kill, it would be 10-20 seconds.  Instant would be if something like a shock wave moved faster than neural signal propagation.  But I think the CIA chief was alluding to a painful death, yes. 

Snowden is not the problem if he brings the solution.

Snowden is not the problem if he evidenced the problem of lax security at National Stoopids America.

A textbook hanging will snap the neck so that the spinal cord is severed, immediately stopping the heart and lungs and rendering the subject clinically dead within 10 seconds but unconscious the second his spinal cord is severed.  If done properly, there is no pain.

Or actual decapitation if the person is heavy enough or rope long enough. There's a formula out there to prevent accidental decapitation, but it's not always successful.

That formula is explained in this BBC horizon doc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQTHqg_8_UA

I recommend it. It's about trying to find a truely painless procedure for capital punishment.

Yeah, already seen it.The hypoxia is an interesting and seemingly painless way to die. Quite bizarre how you don't even realise you're dying.

[Spendulus]

BTW, Is CIA chief really that bad with executions, I mean hanging if proberly done should instantly kill the subject. So it's not really a suffocation trick that requires time.

Reading up on this, no, there isn't anything that would cause "instant death".  The quickest would be loss of oxygen to the brain, the slowest death would be stragulation.  And there's no 'doing it right', it looks like a crap shot as to the outcome every time it's been done.

check wikipedia...

[TheButterZone]

Maximum torque, do it off a >100 foot bridge like Bohannon tried to do to The Swede in Hell On Wheels?

[Spendulus]

Maximum torque, do it off a >100 foot bridge like Bohannon tried to do to The Swede in Hell On Wheels?

just a thought, the very existence of the phrase 'hanged by the neck until dead' tells you a lot.

We don't have a phrase such as 'shot by firing squad until dead' or 'put on the guillotine until dead'.

Hanging is really more of a spectator sport.  They could leave the body up for weeks.  And did.

[U1TRA_L0RD]

Now the NSA has planted backdoors for Samsung electronics and hard drive companies.

[yatsey87]

Now the NSA has planted backdoors for Samsung electronics and hard drive companies.

What? You got a source for this?