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September 03, 2011, 05:58:05 PM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

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September 03, 2011, 06:00:36 PM
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Also I think someone wrote a book about island countries. Not having any luck remembering the author or title name, though, so hopefully it all comes back to me.

"Lord of the Flies" - William Golding

The one I'm thinking of was a "how to" guide lol
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September 05, 2011, 07:58:51 PM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

I sympathize with the Rand headache.  I only made it about half-way through Atlas Shrugged before the dramatic, long-winded prose, and idealistic two-dimensional characters defeated me.  Withur We might be what you are looking for.  I believe it's the author's first book and the writing seemed a little stilted to me at the beginning but I think it improves throughout the book.  Libertarianism and Austrian economics are littered throughout the book, but the story is interesting and I thought the anarchic society was handled even-handedly.  I don't want to say much more because I don't want to spoil the story.  It's a novel with a definite ideological bias but it's pretty good reading.
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September 07, 2011, 08:46:59 AM
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so the billionaire cares enough about this idea to donate less than 0.1% of his gains from society to it?

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September 07, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
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so the billionaire cares enough about this idea to donate less than 0.1% of his gains from society to it?

You speak as if society did not gain from his idea. Do you hold this sentiment or am I reading too much into your question?
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September 07, 2011, 10:53:44 AM
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so the billionaire cares enough about this idea to donate less than 0.1% of his gains from society to it?

You speak as if society did not gain from his idea. Do you hold this sentiment or am I reading too much into your question?

gained? what about net gain? a billionaire's effect on the economy skews production priorities a lot. So in production, market forces lead society as a whole to cease production of needed items and produce more luxuries. With less competition for goods afforded and needed by ordinary people cost of living goes up.

The net loss is shared by billions to cater for a billionaire. no thanks.

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September 22, 2011, 03:13:41 PM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

Does Bioshock count?

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With only the power to push others away?
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September 22, 2011, 09:39:24 PM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

Does Bioshock count?


Maybe Gulliver's Travels?

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September 22, 2011, 11:26:30 PM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

Does Bioshock count?


Maybe Gulliver's Travels?

Psychic mutants and Lilliputians are just as believable as a Libertarian society.

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September 23, 2011, 12:00:56 AM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

Does Bioshock count?


Maybe Gulliver's Travels?

Psychic mutants and Lilliputians are just as believable as a Libertarian society.

Really, the best custom-tailored make-believe world where libertarianism totally works is... Atlas Shrugged.

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September 23, 2011, 12:47:21 AM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

Does Bioshock count?


Maybe Gulliver's Travels?

Psychic mutants and Lilliputians are just as believable as a Libertarian society.

Really, the best custom-tailored make-believe world where libertarianism totally works is... Atlas Shrugged.

Sadly, this is probably true.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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September 23, 2011, 01:45:40 AM
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Has anyone written a fictional story about what it would be like to live on a libertarian island that was intentionally built that way? I'm having a difficult time with understanding how it would work. After the headache Ayn Rand left me, I would hope that this idea has improved in the last several decades.

Does Bioshock count?


Maybe Gulliver's Travels?

Psychic mutants and Lilliputians are just as believable as a Libertarian society.

Oh wait, there's 4chan's /b/.  Well back when /b/ was good.

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September 23, 2011, 05:08:44 AM
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at least the guy on sealand had weapons
what's to stop anybody from seizing millionaire ideologue refuge island? last time i checked history, independent countries with no defence or intl treaties end up getting fucked. i don't see why anything would change now. hey somali 'fisherman'.. go seize this place and plant a Puntland flag.
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