Bitcoin Forum
May 22, 2024, 03:52:25 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 [2] 3 4 5 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Newbies don't mine!  (Read 3272 times)
niceday
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 154
Merit: 100


View Profile
December 21, 2013, 09:29:42 PM
 #21

Now i mine since 2 weeks and learned very much about cryptocurrencies. I think now it could be profitable by long-term. Do it, without thinking so much.  Wink

[EAC] ecuiaeDUZkY9fmuACUB99XreCoticTn2Tp
bitpop (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060



View Profile WWW
December 21, 2013, 09:29:44 PM
 #22

Man I'm about to give in, I need a sponsor

Mrpawick
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 10
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 21, 2013, 09:42:30 PM
 #23

the return is so small its not tempting me.
pbjam
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 75
Merit: 10


View Profile
December 21, 2013, 11:13:25 PM
 #24

it really depends on your rig, and what you consider fun. There are lot of new coins coming up that you can mine and turn a small profit on. I know to some people a couple bucks a day doesn't seem like much, but it all adds up Smiley
Tera-Hash
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 42
Merit: 0


View Profile WWW
December 21, 2013, 11:27:16 PM
 #25

its more risky buy & sell, mining isn't. Anyway i do the 2 things at the same time
Tommyhurley
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 39
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 21, 2013, 11:32:22 PM
 #26

Agree!!!
scarlez
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 14
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 21, 2013, 11:44:48 PM
 #27

That's not true fellas

Example: DOGE ... I started making profit with one GPU faster than 1 week. Even 400 khash is enaugh to start with new coin. Just mine something that is profitable.
mprep
Global Moderator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3766
Merit: 2610


In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce


View Profile WWW
December 21, 2013, 11:50:17 PM
 #28

That's not true fellas

Example: DOGE ... I started making profit with one GPU faster than 1 week. Even 400 khash is enaugh to start with new coin. Just mine something that is profitable.
It's usually hard for newbs to keep track of profitability.

scarlez
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 14
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 12:10:21 AM
 #29

Hmm, but I don't see that being a big problem, because everything is risky.. How then should newbs know where to invest the real money, since I've seen lots of them buying coins at high and then panic selling. Better to try investing into one card, earn something yourself and play risky.. ! You can always sell those 1-2 cards if they don't pay u everything back.
Smokezz
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 16
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 12:51:02 AM
 #30

There is no free money in mining. You will lose. Use your money, buy coins and come back in a few years. No work and very simple.

I'd disagree with this... you just have to do a little research before you jump in.  A lot like the stock market, if you just jump in and start doing things, you're not going to be very successful.  And if you simply buy coins, you'll probably lose as well without doing your research too.
co5hike
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 798
Merit: 1000



View Profile
December 22, 2013, 12:59:18 AM
 #31

its more risky buy & sell, mining isn't.

Mining is risky as well, ASIC mining obviously and with GPU mining difficulty increases as well so you better have cheap electricity to pay the GPU card in reasonable time
dude001
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 01:03:03 AM
 #32

If you have the right equipment power is not to much if you find the right datacenter. 
Rofo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1232
Merit: 1000


View Profile WWW
December 22, 2013, 01:05:00 AM
 #33

If I don't mine I end up with a beefy rig and high electricity bill (work+gaming), if I do mine I end up with a beefy rig, high electricity bill and coins that could either be worthless or worth the rig and electricity bill. + it's interesting

draceus
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 245
Merit: 250


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 01:22:42 AM
 #34

I learned the hard way there is no way to make ROI on mining bitcoins.
Atleast I was able to sell my BFL on ebay and make + $ on it Smiley

misternanyte
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 79
Merit: 10


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 01:24:41 AM
 #35

bitcoin is profitable for people who don't give a crap about time.

Stop using bitcoin to get rich you damn scammers! It's people like you who make mining hard for everyone else. You play your little gambling games and screw up the goddamn economy just because you couldn't afford the BMW you wanted to buy with bitcoins. Get a life jerks.
MrAsiaMiner
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 9
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 03:24:34 AM
 #36

but i need to feed my family.

or just get some free giveaways.

Earthcoin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380010.0;all
Morticio
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100



View Profile
December 22, 2013, 04:46:49 AM
 #37

mining alt coin when he just start. After, pray.
catquarks
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 8
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 05:53:20 AM
 #38

I wish I could invest in mining equipment -- those folks look like the ones getting rich right now. I was lucky enough to buy some BTC several months ago, but at some point I'll be saving up to invest in the shovels for this here gold-rush.
Cor2
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 595
Merit: 500


View Profile
December 22, 2013, 07:51:29 AM
 #39

I am with Bitpop. I was drooling over Ebay offers for ASIC miners and blades, especially checking the people that were selling their pre-ordered Tera-Hash/sec equipment, which is *always* a lower price per Gh/s than the USB or blade or other ASIC miners, so I was thinking to invest heavy in those, get a 2 or 3 Th/s rig and start making big bucks. Much better than buying any of the available 300 Gh/s rigs that are older technology and mine 10 times as slow. If calculated per hash speed, that really makes sense.
BUT - the faster rigs are shipping in March/April. Difficulty level of Bitcoin mining is going up around 26% every 2 weeks.
Doing the math for a rig, even if it would ship as early as mid March, means that it will never mine more than approx 8 bitcoins. Ever.
At today's price ($630 on MtGox) that means the rig will mine never more than approx $5,000 worth of coins.
Why would I pre-pay between $12k - $16,700 for a rig that will cost me a lot of electricity, maintenance and can never earn more than $5k in bitcoins for me, no matter how long I will run it (assuming that average difficulty increase will continue at around 26% each 2 weeks).
Now I suddenly understand why all those people start selling their pre-orders....
And if you are interested in the story about the currently available ~300Gh/s rigs that cost around $5,000 such as the Avalon that will ship next week?
Calculating the same difficulty increases and assuming you can start mining *right away*, you might be able to mine 4 bitcoin. Total. Ever.
This means you will earn about $2500 at the current Bitcoin value.
In other words: buying bitcoin *today* instead of a rig, will get you 2 times more bitcoin *today* than you can ever mine with even the cheapest rigs available...
Bitpop is absolutely right.
BTW, please do the math yourself and tell me if you find different results - I do not mind running a rig in my garage, but I hate to pay for electricity *and* lose half my money while running a miner....
OK, my first post is *not* an optimistic one, but I did the math just before considering maxing out my credit card on a TeraHash/s miner pre-order that I found out would never pay for itself unless I receive it *today*, not in March/April.

SYNC: Sd3XBRmhrrr39Wj4rtjb3YAkwWvCze44BZ                    ORB: odyWi677JDQy7Gc6Nv6kCdnajmScqgTkDE       Honest pools (payout matching calculation):
TransferWise: International money transfer for 1%fee        Doge to the moon! D9FGY7Bhwbj2jrnk7v8VR47HTu7vfVu1gV         Nut2pools and Steadymining
Lethn
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000



View Profile WWW
December 22, 2013, 07:58:18 AM
 #40

Always check the maths behind peoples' claims and if they refuse to give any or classically ignore you and keep peddling it's a scam, that goes for just about anything in life, scrypt mining could well be worth it if you're in it for the long run, especially if you're on a low difficult coin but you need to know whether the devs are actually committed to making the currency a success, so do your research.

Too many people just jump into this stuff without bothering to check anything properly and form their own opinions which is why you have so much stupid bullshit being posted even by mainstream news now.
Pages: « 1 [2] 3 4 5 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!