We are at "THE" ATH

[SuperHakka]

so i woke up this morning and while scratching me nuts i had a epiphany come on. bear with me now (har ha) as i explain. about 15 years ago i got involved myself in this company called AMWAY. some you may know about this but the point I want to make is that everybody who was IN thought that it would change completly the world of marketing and commerce and retailing. AMWAY was gonna rewrite the script and rip new assholes for walmart etc. you saw what happend. NOTHING and i mean NOTHING would dampen the enthusion felt by the amwayers.

ok, ok i getting to me point soon. the reason that AMWAY fell away is not because its because of its busness model (though some peeps would take me up on that), but that the GENRAL PUBLIC are simultanously thich AS PIGSHIT to understand the concept,  TOO LAZY to change habits and too annoygingly SKEPTICAL to believe what they were being told. nothing in the 15 years since has changed my opinin of the public.

What if, WHAT IF, we are not more or less at the maximum number of bitcoiners that there will ever be??? remember, when I was in AMWAY, everybody TOTALLY BELIEVED that in 10 years from then, 1 in 5 people were going to be in AMWAY. how wrong that was,

what if indeed we are in the terminus population size? (holding steady as a few new peeps come in to replace those leaving). what possible scope is there for it to go much higher than now? could this be your last chances to feel like a BOSS 5 years from now as bitcoin stays the same size as it is now.

Think it possible that the general public will really use bitcoin, you'd bet your life on it? been in AMWAY before?

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[wobber]

Amcoin

[SuperHakka]

haha nice one wobber.

WHAT IF BITCOIN IS A CULT???

[ElectricMucus]

The difference between Amway and Bitcoin is nerds have no need for cleaning products!

[TERA]

Bear with me.

[Wilhelm]

I think AMWAY fell due to the amount of typo's in your OP.

[SuperHakka]

I think AMWAY fell due to the amount of typo's in your OP.

tut tut attacking the message and not the messenger now are we yip yip 

[cr1776]

Amway has been around since 1959.  Those who joined 15 years ago, we're late adopters.  It has made lots of people lots of money, bitcoin is not a multilevel marketing scheme though.

[miyamoto]

everybody who was IN thought that it would change completly the world of marketing and commerce and retailing. AMWAY was gonna rewrite the script and rip new assholes for walmart etc. you saw what happend. NOTHING and i mean NOTHING would dampen the enthusion felt by the amwayers.

Really?  No, you were the only one who believed that.  Everyone else saw Amway for what it was...another door to door/MLM/pyramid type sales of a product that no one really wants/needs.  Just like Acai juice, herbalife, and all the others.  I was like 12 when a friends father who was retired got into Amway, and even then, at 12 years old, we all knew it was a joke.  It sounds to me like you don't really understand what either Amway or Bitcoin really are.  No comparison.  End of thread.

And btw Amway has been around a lot longer than 15 years

[Ibian]

Thinking way too small. What if we have a GLOBAL EMP! Then what?! BITCOIN IS DOOMED SELL SELL SELL RIGHT AWAY!1!

[SuperHakka]

Really?  No, you were the only one who believed that.  Everyone else saw Amway for what it was...another door to door/MLM/pyramid type sales of a product that no one really wants/needs.  Just like Acai juice, herbalife, and all the others.  I was like 12 when a friends father who was retired got into Amway, and even then, at 12 years old, we all knew it was a joke.  It sounds to me like you don't really understand what either Amway or Bitcoin really are.  No comparison.  End of thread.

And btw Amway has been around a lot longer than 15 years

haha, you a member of the genral public?? you thick enough to be. go get your reading glasses and read me post again. i was saying that i am seeing the same level of cultism and blind belief that i saw in Amway as I see in you and others mooners on here. i too think Amway is a crap idea by the time i left it. also where did i say amway was 15 years old? i said i joined it 15 years ago you biscuit!

[piramida]

I think AMWAY fell due to the amount of typo's in your OP.

tut tut attacking the message and not the messenger now are we yip yip  

it is the other way around I think. the way you say it is the proper way.

And no, we are not at the maximum level of adoption that bitcoin has seen. We are, in the most pessimistic scenario, at 1% of that.

step 1 - several people heard about bitcoin
step 2 - several people are using bitcoin, many have heard
step 3 - many are using, most have heard
step 4 - most are using

We are at step 2 now. If bitcoin reaches at least step 3, it will grow 100-fold. Step 4, an optimistic scenario, sky is the limit. I don't see any reason for bitcoin to die now, since there's quite alot of interest from top financial managers around the world.

Your AMWAY? Nobody heard about it, nobody discussed it at gov't hearings, just another ponzi. There's one born every day.

[ElectricMucus]

step 1 - several people heard about amway
step 2 - several people are using amway, many have heard
step 3 - many are using, most have heard
step 4 - most are using

FTFY

And no, we are not at the maximum level of adoption that bitcoin has seen. We are, in the most pessimistic scenario, at 1% of that.

Also true with Amway. Pretty much all of the civilized world uses dishwasher, soaps or shower gels and cleaning agents.

[SuperHakka]

Your AMWAY? Nobody heard about it, nobody discussed it at gov't hearings, just another ponzi. There's one born every day.

I think that is not correct brother. I thin the us govmint tried to prosecute AMWAY as a pyramid scheme but amway won and the case itself helped to define legally what was and was not a pyramid/ponzi scheme.

[proudhon]

I think AMWAY fell due to the amount of typo's in your OP.

tut tut attacking the message and not the messenger now are we yip yip 

I think you mean the other way around.  But anyway, I don't quite understand the message.  What if we've reached bitcoin's saturation point?  Well, then we've reached the saturation point.  I don't know what else can be said about it.  I guess, if this market cap is the end point, then I expect bitcoin will slowly devalue over time since it's not large enough and deep enough to be a reliable store of value, etc, etc.

[SuperHakka]

I think you mean the other way around.  But anyway, I don't quite understand the message.  What if we've reached bitcoin's saturation point?  Well, then we've reached the saturation point.  I don't know what else can be said about it.  I guess, if this market cap is the end point, then I expect bitcoin will slowly devalue over time since it's not large enough and deep enough to be a reliable store of value, etc, etc.

nuff said, you said it all brother

[GigaCoin]

I'm ware of amway, and many other similar mlm/network marketing schemes like sky biz, gold quest, etc. They were all pyramid schemes in the purest form, selling mostly overpriced garbage (although they posed excellent presentation and sales skills).

This video should clarify your concerns about why we are still not at the saturation point for Bitcoin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

[ElectricMucus]

I'm ware of amway, and many other similar mlm/network marketing schemes like sky biz, gold quest, etc. They were all pyramid schemes in the purest form, selling mostly overpriced garbage (although they posed excellent presentation and sales skills).

This video should clarify your concerns about why we are still not at the saturation point for Bitcoin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

Here is why we are at the saturation point, or close to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBbLpxLglz0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcaltexImW0

[SuperHakka]

This video should clarify your concerns about why we are still not at the saturation point for Bitcoin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

I clicked on the link and was prepared to watch it, but after 30 seconds the presenter made a FUNDAMENTAL error. he was going to compare growth of bitcoin to natural populatin like rats on an island and then saying that bitcoin's PRICE GROWTH of 1000% was natural. I stopped 2 seconds later. DUDE YOU CAN'T MEASURE BITCOIN AS AN IDEA IN TERMS OF ITS PRICE ON AN EXCHANGE!!!! you have to measyre things like real transaction volume buying trade goods. look at this chart showing trade volume does this show you 1000% growth? the person in that video is either fucking stupid or he is vested and just wants others to buy loads so that he can cash out.

http://blockchain.info/charts/estimated-transaction-volume?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

[GigaCoin]

This video should clarify your concerns about why we are still not at the saturation point for Bitcoin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

I clicked on the link and was prepared to watch it, but after 30 seconds the presenter made a FUNDAMENTAL error. he was going to compare growth of bitcoin to natural populatin like rats on an island and then saying that bitcoin's PRICE GROWTH of 1000% was natural. I stopped 2 seconds later. DUDE YOU CAN'T MEASURE BITCOIN AS AN IDEA IN TERMS OF ITS PRICE ON AN EXCHANGE!!!! you have to measyre things like real transaction volume buying trade goods. look at this chart showing trade volume does this show you 1000% growth? the person in that video is either fucking stupid or he is vested and just wants others to buy loads so that he can cash out.

http://blockchain.info/charts/estimated-transaction-volume?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

the rats thing was just an analogy he used to explain what an S curve is it wasn't to compare bitcoin. You need to give it a chance and watch further were he analyses Twitter and Facebook Vertical growth period compared to bitcoin. The price is irrelevant to this topic, what you were concerned about is market saturation / peak growth a point which we haven't reached yet with Bitcoin.