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[Lauda]

This is posted to counter OgNasty's multiple negative trust ratings against owlcatz.

@suchmoon, why would you counter a negative trust which has a reference pointing to an extortion attempt by owlcatz?
When it comes to your friends you would abuse your power, is this a man we should trust?

Owlcatz has literally nothing to do with that thread, thus the counter rating is valid. Don't drag innocent people into your dispute. Counter ratings are per-definition not abuse.

[suchmoon]

I would like to ask for a better reason as to why suchmoon has left a positive trust on forum member: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=313016 ? there is no reference. could we come to conclusion that he is abusing his DT position for personal gains?

This is posted to counter OgNasty's multiple negative trust ratings against owlcatz.

@suchmoon, why would you counter a negative trust which has a reference pointing to an extortion attempt by owlcatz?
When it comes to your friends you would abuse your power, is this a man we should trust?

What personal gain do I get from that rating?

With your every post you're confirming how utterly clueless you are about the trust system.

[digaran]

This is posted to counter OgNasty's multiple negative trust ratings against owlcatz.

@suchmoon, why would you counter a negative trust which has a reference pointing to an extortion attempt by owlcatz?
When it comes to your friends you would abuse your power, is this a man we should trust?

Owlcatz has literally nothing to do with that thread, thus the counter rating is valid. Don't drag innocent people into your dispute. Counter ratings are per-definition not abuse.

Giving suchmoon absolute power could lead to abuse. if Ognasty has left an inaccurate negative trust on owlcatz, that is abuse of power.

Anyways, I have fixed my mistakes now and I expect suchmoon to reconsider about his tags on me.

[TheQuin]

Anyways, I have fixed my mistakes now and I expect suchmoon to reconsider about his tags on me.

So you admit that you were in the wrong and suchmoon's tag was justified?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I would like to ask for a better reason as to why suchmoon has left a positive trust on forum member: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=313016 ? there is no reference. could we come to conclusion that he is abusing his DT position for personal gains?

Eh...no?  What exactly would be the gain?

Take a look at my feedback, or Vod's, or Lauda's, or anyone who's on DT.  You'll find tons of feedback, both positive and negative, that doesn't include any references.  That's a fact of life here, because trust isn't moderated and giving a reference is suggested but isn't a rule.

In the case of suchmoon's feedback for owlcatz, that's been a long-standing feud that unfortunately shows no signs of dying down.  The only thing I can say is that some people believe that what transpired wasn't a true extortion attempt, but a sting operation--and I think everyone involved realizes at this point that it was a mistake.  You can believe it or not believe it, but that's what the feedback was for.

Digaran, all of this screaming about your feedback and raging against DT members isn't going to help your case.  I say that as someone who doesn't have a personal beef with you, so it's somewhat objective.  Your time would be better spent not doing this and perhaps calming down a bit and doing things to help the forum would be a better approach.

No, that's not what owlcatz's feedback is about. It isn't an issue of whether it was a sting or not. He was not involved in any way or form, neither directly not indirectly. I thought this needed clearing up as even you seem to misunderstood it and it was brought in here.

Oh.  Maybe my brain is as addled as digaran's is, but he brought up the extortion thing.  I can't keep track of all this mudslinging, so I'll probably just keep quiet.

[digaran]

Anyways, I have fixed my mistakes now and I expect suchmoon to reconsider about his tags on me.

So you admit that you were in the wrong and suchmoon's tag was justified?

I agree that I should have used escrow. if I trust myself it doesn't mean that everybody else should trust me.

[Lauda]

In the case of suchmoon's feedback for owlcatz, that's been a long-standing feud that unfortunately shows no signs of dying down.  The only thing I can say is that some people believe that what transpired wasn't a true extortion attempt, but a sting operation--and I think everyone involved realizes at this point that it was a mistake.  You can believe it or not believe it, but that's what the feedback was for.

No, that's not what owlcatz's feedback is about. It isn't an issue of whether it was a sting or not. He was not involved in any way or form, neither directly not indirectly. I thought this needed clearing up as even you seem to misunderstood it and it was brought in here.

Anyways, I have fixed my mistakes now and I expect suchmoon to reconsider about his tags on me.

You might as well wait forever; welcome to the club.

[TheQuin]

Anyways, I have fixed my mistakes now and I expect suchmoon to reconsider about his tags on me.

So you admit that you were in the wrong and suchmoon's tag was justified?

I agree that I should have used escrow. if I trust myself it doesn't mean that everybody else should trust me.

OK, that's the first step. It wasn't just escrow, you offered a service you couldn't perform and said no refunds.

Now take this in, The Pharmacist said it better than I would.

Digaran, all of this screaming about your feedback and raging against DT members isn't going to help your case.  I say that as someone who doesn't have a personal beef with you, so it's somewhat objective.  Your time would be better spent not doing this and perhaps calming down a bit and doing things to help the forum would be a better approach.

Try acting like a trustworthy member of the forum and prove yourself over a period of a few months and then maybe it would be in order to ask suchmoon to reconsider.

[digaran]

Anyways, I have fixed my mistakes now and I expect suchmoon to reconsider about his tags on me.

So you admit that you were in the wrong and suchmoon's tag was justified?

I agree that I should have used escrow. if I trust myself it doesn't mean that everybody else should trust me.

OK, that's the first step. It wasn't just escrow, you offered a service you couldn't perform and said no refunds.

Now take this in, The Pharmacist said it better than I would.

Digaran, all of this screaming about your feedback and raging against DT members isn't going to help your case.  I say that as someone who doesn't have a personal beef with you, so it's somewhat objective.  Your time would be better spent not doing this and perhaps calming down a bit and doing things to help the forum would be a better approach.

Try acting like a trustworthy member of the forum and prove yourself over a period of a few months and then maybe it would be in order to ask suchmoon to reconsider.

I don't need to prove myself to suchmoon, here is a change of circumstances, I want to have a reputation and a business, are you willing to compensate me for few months of waiting? now I'm tagged as a scammer, I'm not a scammer so there is no need for me to be called a scammer by default.

In the case of suchmoon's feedback for owlcatz, that's been a long-standing feud that unfortunately shows no signs of dying down.  The only thing I can say is that some people believe that what transpired wasn't a true extortion attempt, but a sting operation--and I think everyone involved realizes at this point that it was a mistake.  You can believe it or not believe it, but that's what the feedback was for.

No, that's not what owlcatz's feedback is about. It isn't an issue of whether it was a sting or not. He was not involved in any way or form, neither directly not indirectly. I thought this needed clearing up as even you seem to misunderstood it and it was brought in here.

Anyways, I have fixed my mistakes now and I expect suchmoon to reconsider about his tags on me.

You might as well wait forever; welcome to the club.

That's where you are wrong, I shouldn't have to wait forever, if there is no evidence of me being a scammer I should have neutral trust instead of negative trust. if you guys are friends with each other and counter each other's trust ratings, nobody is doing that for me, why should I join your club if there is no seat for me in it? my reputation is at risk here, if this is the standard of dealing with people, let us know. if suchmoon could counter owlcatz negative trust and leave me to be called a scammer by default, let us know. if you are willing to close your eyes for your friends and open them for me, let us know.
If you see that there is no need for me to be called a scammer by default you should tell that to suchmoon, otherwise it could continue like this if nobody is fixing the mistake.

[Lauda]

That's where you are wrong, I shouldn't have to wait forever, if there is no evidence of me being a scammer I should have neutral trust instead of negative trust. if you guys are friends with each other and counter each other's trust ratings, nobody is doing that for me, why should I join your club if there is no seat for me in it? my reputation is at risk here, if this is the standard of dealing with people, let us know. if suchmoon could counter owlcatz negative trust and leave me to be called a scammer by default, let us know. if you are willing to close your eyes for your friends and open them for me, let us know.
If you see that there is no need for me to be called a scammer by default you should tell that to suchmoon, otherwise it could continue like this if nobody is fixing the mistake.

Negative trust =/= scammer.

[yahoo62278]

You have been given negative trust for offering a service in which you really have no control over. You claim that you can remove negative trust and once a client pays there will be 0 refunds.

Basically you plan on trying to be a paid troll to bug the fuck out of whomever tagged a user in hopes they will remove the neg mark on your clients account. Not gonna work, all you are doing is stealing money from your possible clients.

I also noticed you now raised the fee to .02btc. 170$ to perform a service in which you have 0 control. You're also gonna have an escrow hold the funds. That's supposed to make the service more appealing? Sounds legit

[digaran]

You have been given negative trust for offering a service in which you really have no control over. You claim that you can remove negative trust and once a client pays there will be 0 refunds.

Basically you plan on trying to be a paid troll to bug the fuck out of whomever tagged a user in hopes they will remove the neg mark on your clients account. Not gonna work, all you are doing is stealing money from your possible clients.

I also noticed you now raised the fee to .02btc. 170$ to perform a service in which you have 0 control. You're also gonna have an escrow hold the funds. That's supposed to make the service more appealing? Sounds legit

What sounds illegit is the fact that DT members have the right to act as a judge and inflict real damage on our reputation and business.
If I get paid to represent a wrongfully red tagged member, people wouldn't say that I am defending a shitposter or a scammer.
If I do it for free, people would say that I'm defending scammers. if what I'm trying to do is stealing, every lawyer is a thief then? because they are not winning every case but they are getting paid for it.

Why should we allow DT members to act as a judge but not allowing me to act as a lawyer? because they all are trusted by theymos right? here is my case, but where is theymos to see if DT members are abusing their power? nowhere to be found.

EDIT: exactly, I don't have any control over negative ratings, I'm getting paid for my time spending on each case.

[mdayonliner]

Negative trust =/= scammer.

Do you think s/he understand it? S/he thinks only linear. You can't help these types of mentally disordered people.

Notice how he flips his statements...
Before

Now


This guys is mentally unstable and do not know what is he doing. So, he can not be trusted. IMO red trust from suchmoon has been justified correctly.

I also noticed you now raised the fee to .02btc. 170$ to perform a service in which you have 0 control. You're also gonna have an escrow hold the funds. That's supposed to make the service more appealing? Sounds legit

Cos now he has a portfolio - defending his own case so price raised. You know, experienced gained so demand gained = price raising.

PS: When I get bored, I look for his topics for entertainment and I never get disappointed.

[pugman]

Digaran,remember when you told people to report thousands of shitposts to help the community or donate 200,000$(1) to the forum so that they could get their "negative tag" removed,why not do what you preach? I dare you.

I shouldn't have to wait forever, if there is no evidence of me being a scammer I should have neutral trust instead of negative trust. if you guys are friends with each other and counter each other's trust ratings, nobody is doing that for me, why should I join your club if there is no seat for me in it? my reputation is at risk here, if this is the standard of dealing with people, let us know. if suchmoon could counter owlcatz negative trust and leave me to be called a scammer by default, let us know. if you are willing to close your eyes for your friends and open them for me, let us know.
If you see that there is no need for me to be called a scammer by default you should tell that to suchmoon, otherwise it could continue like this if nobody is fixing the mistake.

Man that's how life works. Suck it up. Its not anyone else's fault if you can't prove or even seem to others as a trustworthy person. You have to blame yourself for the consequences caused by your own actions(which is your post history and your sarcasm that almost no one understands).(1):
As per digaran's trust ratings to others:

[bill gator]

I would like to request a review on suchmoon actions.

Request denied. Your execution resumes at dawn as scheduled, good sir!

He/she tagged me after I bumped a merit source application

You can't actually be that dense to think that you were given negative feedback for bumping your merit application.

Reference is also pointing to off-site source, I don't have access to read it.

Pro-Tip, it is your thread.

I believe that reference should lead to forum post.

Forum posts can be deleted and edited. We use archive around here to keep a record.

This is pure abuse of power.

Your actions are perceived by many to be trolling, scamming and extortion, yet you believe that somebody voicing their opinion on your behavior is an abuse of power. You have a long way to go, and that over-inflated ego needs to be popped.


By the way, you are scamming anybody that sends you BTC with the hopes that you will remove their rating. If I started a service that I "may or may not" deliver on the product, and if I don't then forget about a refund then I would assume people do feel very distrusting towards my service. Your rating is warranted.

[realusinvestment]

my dear sir i only use one  account for bounty work . i ca't use broth account and i am doing buy and sell ETH, BTC And another alt coin  , Because of which many people are dealing with me. That does not mean that I use all the accounts . Mr.Coolcryptovator Say with a post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3879020.msg37501194#msg37501194

  I use a lot of accounts This is false, this is not the right information I request DT Member Or Moderator Remove the Red Trust Mark from my account And yes if DT Member Or Moderator  do not believe me , Then DT Member Or Moderator  said What i need to do or how i proof i use only one account than  you will believe me and remove red trust mark , I'm ready to do what you say . please trust me i only use one account .

i hope DT Member Or moderator find out  real information than make red trust

[bill gator]

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I think you may have stumbled into the wrong thread. You are looking for one of the threads crying about The Pharmacist; You see, this is a thread dedicated to crying about suchmoon. I can see how you would get confused.


digaran, these will be the type of users that you are going to attract. You must notice that you are on the wrong side of things here.

[mdayonliner]

my dear sir i only use one  account for bounty work . i ca't use broth account and i am doing buy and sell ETH, BTC And another alt coin  , Because of which many people are dealing with me. That does not mean that I use all the accounts . Mr.Coolcryptovator Say with a post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3879020.msg37501194#msg37501194

  I use a lot of accounts This is false, this is not the right information I request DT Member Or Moderator Remove the Red Trust Mark from my account And yes if DT Member Or Moderator  do not believe me , Then DT Member Or Moderator  said What i need to do or how i proof i use only one account than  you will believe me and remove red trust mark , I'm ready to do what you say . please trust me i only use one account .

i hope DT Member Or moderator find out  real information than make red trust

Knock! knock!! A customer here LOL

@realusinvestment create a thread on meta section if you think you have given the red trust by mistake or if you think the justification is wrong. Don't you see here people are humiliating this mentally ill guy? No one can help you removing red trust because trust are not moderated. You only can help yourself talking to the person who tagged you.

[suchmoon]

I don't need to prove myself to suchmoon

You're right about that bud. I've told you upfront that you're wasting your time trying to change my mind.

I want to have a reputation and a business, are you willing to compensate me for few months of waiting? now I'm tagged as a scammer, I'm not a scammer so there is no need for me to be called a scammer by default.

You have a potential client three posts up. My red tag doesn't prevent you from taking that case and you don't have to wait months.

Edit: just to make sure we're on the same wavelength here - your red tag is not coming off because you're prone to shit like this:


Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

It doesn't matter how many times you edit your thread. I'm not gonna babysit you watching what you're up to next.

[TheQuin]

I don't need to prove myself to suchmoon, here is a change of circumstances, I want to have a reputation and a business, are you willing to compensate me for few months of waiting? now I'm tagged as a scammer, I'm not a scammer so there is no need for me to be called a scammer by default.

You have proved yourself untrustworthy and deserving of that tag. Making a few edits to your post doesn't reverse that. Someone with judgment so poor as to offer the service on the terms you did is someone to avoid doing business with. I don't think you will ever convince anyone here to trust you. I merely suggested it would be wise to at least spend a few months rebuilding your trashed reputation before even thinking about asking anyone to reconsider.